Breaking down the Big Ten

[knapplc]

Dueling videos? :duel

 

[huskerscott]

Seriously, Why do some think that the BigTen sucks and we are gonna roll them next year?But in 2010, we where better than everybody on paper, yet we lost 4 games, granted they were all close other than UWv2. What makes you guys think next year is gonna be any different? Especially with a less than productive offense, questionable playcalling, losing some key guys on defense and some playmakers departing on offense despite lacking consistent production.

I based my prediction of the trend we have been seeing the last 2 years. A vanilla offense with a championship style defense can only lead ya so far.

 

[husker_99]

Husker fans need to get this through their heads:

THE THOUGHT OF BIG TEN SUPERIORITY IS FLAT OUT STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BIG TWELVE SCHEDULE WE PLAYED LAST YEAR WAS JUST AS TOUGH IF NOT TOUGHER THAN THE ONE THAT WE PLAYED THIS YEAR.

Anyone who thinks that the Tiny Ten is "hard-hitting" or that there is "week in and week out constant grind" in the conference did not follow Iowa all year. Nor did they follow any team that we will be playing for that matter.

Did you watch Nebraska all year long? cause i don't think you did. Most people on this board knows that Wats costs us games this season. We won inspite of Wats not knowing how to run an offense. Wats still calling plays will costs us games next year too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwTOfQ-izgA

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

This is a terrible argument against anything that I have said. You clearly do not know Shawn Watson with the quote that I bolded. This whole board knows what I think about the current OC situation so I will not repeat myself on that. If you would have came up with an intelligent response using factual information and logic it would not be as easy to prove you wrong on all accounts.

The only game that you can make an argument about the coaching losing a game is the Bowl Game where the entire coaching staff lost us that game. Other than that, Watson did not cost us a single game last year. With the above stated you are trying to say that it all lies on the offense. Well, we return two QBs with experience, a workhorse running back with another very talented one coming in, we are deep along the OL, and we have some young talent at the WR spots. SJB and Kenny Bell to be specific. It is not out of the realm of possibility to think that we will be better on offense next year.

Did you not watch the Big Ten last year and the year before? They are NOT better than us. There is not a team in that league that we can't beat. People, like you that think we will go 7-5 are flat out stupid. The schedule is not that much tougher next year if it is at all.

Ok you want stats, here's some: You know Texas Longhorns that no matter what we lose to this is how they fared against Michigan and Ohio State when they have Vince Young and Colt McCoy

Texas 38 Michigan 37 rose bowl

Texas 25 Ohio St 22 The Longhorns won the National Championship and Troy Smith didn't even start

Ohio St 24 Texas 7 Colt McCoy's first big game

Texas 26 Iowa 24 Alamo Bowl

Texas 24 Ohio St 21 fiesta bowl

I bring these up because this was when Texas was on top and even they couldn't destroy Big Ten teams at their height of dominance.

 

[GM_Tood]

I based my prediction of the trend we have been seeing the last 2 years. A vanilla offense with a championship style defense can only lead ya so far.

I'll take another 10 win season next year..no doubt. I don't see a team on next years schedule that our D can't keep us in the game...if our Offense has any struggles.

 

[huskerscott]

I based my prediction of the trend we have been seeing the last 2 years. A vanilla offense with a championship style defense can only lead ya so far.

I'll take another 10 win season next year..no doubt. I don't see a team on next years schedule that our D can't keep us in the game...if our Offense has any struggles.

No question I'll take a 10 win season next year, especially if our offensive doesnt perform. I just think that their maybe some teams that will come out and bite us if we are not prepared, mostly Michigan State and Iowa. We've seen how this team plays down to the competition or comes out completely flat at times, which may take a potential 10 win team down to 8 wins pretty quick. but on the flip side we seen at times this team rebound pretty well after losing the week before.

 

[walksalone]

I based my prediction of the trend we have been seeing the last 2 years. A vanilla offense with a championship style defense can only lead ya so far.

I'll take another 10 win season next year..no doubt. I don't see a team on next years schedule that our D can't keep us in the game...if our Offense has any struggles.

No question I'll take a 10 win season next year, especially if our offensive doesnt perform. I just think that their maybe some teams that will come out and bite us if we are not prepared, mostly Michigan State and Iowa. We've seen how this team plays down to the competition or comes out completely flat at times, which may take a potential 10 win team down to 8 wins pretty quick. but on the flip side we seen at times this team rebound pretty well after losing the week before.

At some point, our lack of offense is going to come to the forefront. After two or three 10 win seasons, you're going to have dissention due to the fact that we're right there, but not any closer to the real prize. First year in the Big 10, we get 10 wins, and a shot at a BCS bid, there will be a good share of enthusiasm.

What happens though if, for the next two to four years, we average 9 or 10 wins. At that point, there will be no choice, but to make a change of some sort.

 

[RedDenver]

At some point, our lack of offense is going to come to the forefront. After two or three 10 win seasons, you're going to have dissention due to the fact that we're right there, but not any closer to the real prize. First year in the Big 10, we get 10 wins, and a shot at a BCS bid, there will be a good share of enthusiasm.

What happens though if, for the next two to four years, we average 9 or 10 wins. At that point, there will be no choice, but to make a change of some sort.

Wow! I'm having deja vu from the late 80's. I don't necessarily disagree with the post, but I'm always amazed at how the same discussions happen over and over even 20 years later.

 

[walksalone]

Next season's conference champions: Nebraska and Ohio State. A new era of 12-team, two-division football will begin. In its first season in the Big Ten, Nebraska should be the favorite in the Legends Division. Iowa, Michigan and Michigan State don't have enough to keep up with a loaded Cornhuskers team. The Leaders Division will be contested as well, with Ohio State appearing to be the front-runner ahead of Penn State and Wisconsin. The Big Ten will play its inaugural league title game in December in Indianapolis.

Just something I found, topic related, on Rivals.com

The Rest of the Story

 

[EZ-E]

Husker fans need to get this through their heads:

THE THOUGHT OF BIG TEN SUPERIORITY IS FLAT OUT STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BIG TWELVE SCHEDULE WE PLAYED LAST YEAR WAS JUST AS TOUGH IF NOT TOUGHER THAN THE ONE THAT WE PLAYED THIS YEAR.

Anyone who thinks that the Tiny Ten is "hard-hitting" or that there is "week in and week out constant grind" in the conference did not follow Iowa all year. Nor did they follow any team that we will be playing for that matter.

Did you watch Nebraska all year long? cause i don't think you did. Most people on this board knows that Wats costs us games this season. We won inspite of Wats not knowing how to run an offense. Wats still calling plays will costs us games next year too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwTOfQ-izgA

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

This is a terrible argument against anything that I have said. You clearly do not know Shawn Watson with the quote that I bolded. This whole board knows what I think about the current OC situation so I will not repeat myself on that. If you would have came up with an intelligent response using factual information and logic it would not be as easy to prove you wrong on all accounts.

The only game that you can make an argument about the coaching losing a game is the Bowl Game where the entire coaching staff lost us that game. Other than that, Watson did not cost us a single game last year. With the above stated you are trying to say that it all lies on the offense. Well, we return two QBs with experience, a workhorse running back with another very talented one coming in, we are deep along the OL, and we have some young talent at the WR spots. SJB and Kenny Bell to be specific. It is not out of the realm of possibility to think that we will be better on offense next year.

Did you not watch the Big Ten last year and the year before? They are NOT better than us. There is not a team in that league that we can't beat. People, like you that think we will go 7-5 are flat out stupid. The schedule is not that much tougher next year if it is at all.

Ok you want stats, here's some: You know Texas Longhorns that no matter what we lose to this is how they fared against Michigan and Ohio State when they have Vince Young and Colt McCoy

Texas 38 Michigan 37 rose bowl

Texas 25 Ohio St 22 The Longhorns won the National Championship and Troy Smith didn't even start

Ohio St 24 Texas 7 Colt McCoy's first big game

Texas 26 Iowa 24 Alamo Bowl

Texas 24 Ohio St 21 fiesta bowl

I bring these up because this was when Texas was on top and even they couldn't destroy Big Ten teams at their height of dominance.

This is a horrid way to break down the strength of a conference!!!!!!!!!!!!! Using your logic then the Big 12 North is way tougher than the Big Ten. Every team minus Iowa State in the Big Ten North has been in the top 10 (maybe the top 5?) in the past decade.

Mizzou - yes

Kansas - yes

KState - yes

CU - yes

ISU - No

Not to mention, Texas was 4-2 in the irrelevant games that you picked out. So :dunno :

 

[walksalone]

Husker fans need to get this through their heads:

THE THOUGHT OF BIG TEN SUPERIORITY IS FLAT OUT STUPID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE BIG TWELVE SCHEDULE WE PLAYED LAST YEAR WAS JUST AS TOUGH IF NOT TOUGHER THAN THE ONE THAT WE PLAYED THIS YEAR.

Anyone who thinks that the Tiny Ten is "hard-hitting" or that there is "week in and week out constant grind" in the conference did not follow Iowa all year. Nor did they follow any team that we will be playing for that matter.

Did you watch Nebraska all year long? cause i don't think you did. Most people on this board knows that Wats costs us games this season. We won inspite of Wats not knowing how to run an offense. Wats still calling plays will costs us games next year too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwTOfQ-izgA

:facepalm: :facepalm: :facepalm:

This is a terrible argument against anything that I have said. You clearly do not know Shawn Watson with the quote that I bolded. This whole board knows what I think about the current OC situation so I will not repeat myself on that. If you would have came up with an intelligent response using factual information and logic it would not be as easy to prove you wrong on all accounts.

The only game that you can make an argument about the coaching losing a game is the Bowl Game where the entire coaching staff lost us that game. Other than that, Watson did not cost us a single game last year. With the above stated you are trying to say that it all lies on the offense. Well, we return two QBs with experience, a workhorse running back with another very talented one coming in, we are deep along the OL, and we have some young talent at the WR spots. SJB and Kenny Bell to be specific. It is not out of the realm of possibility to think that we will be better on offense next year.

Did you not watch the Big Ten last year and the year before? They are NOT better than us. There is not a team in that league that we can't beat. People, like you that think we will go 7-5 are flat out stupid. The schedule is not that much tougher next year if it is at all.

 

[Blaze1up]

http://www.omaha.com/article/20110115/SPORTS/110119733/-1#breaking-down-the-big-ten

Enjoy!

1. NEBRASKAA look back at 2010

10-4 overall, 6-2 Big 12

The emergence of Taylor Martinez gave Nebraska a promising start and a top-10 ranking. But things fell apart the last four games, bottoming out with a 19-7 loss to Washington in the Holiday Bowl. The Huskers just missed a Big 12 championship for the second straight year.

Building blocks

As usual, the Blackshirts should be solid. Jared Crick, Lavonte David and Alfonzo Dennard give NU a standout at each defensive level. Rex Burkhead and Kyler Reed will be key components of the offense.

Questions marks

Martinez's sluggish finish opens the quarterback competition, creating the possibility that Nebraska puts a new starter in the huddle for the fifth straight year. The offensive line was hit-and-miss all season. Without guards Ricky Henry and Keith Williams, young players must step up. The receiving corps is perhaps the greatest area of concern. Only Brandon Kinnie had more than one catch last year.

Schedule

Unyielding. After a nonconference slate that requires Nebraska's attention, it opens Big Ten play with Wisconsin and Ohio State. November features road trips to Penn State and Michigan. Fortunately, the biggest divisional games — Michigan State and Iowa — are in Lincoln.

Our take

Even if Bo Pelini solves his offense, there are too many tough tests to think about a national title. But this division is winnable, even for a flawed team. Look for Nebraska to earn a Dec. 3 date with Ohio State or Wisconsin.

We won't win the division.

Then who does and please don't tell me Iowa cause were gonna walk all over them come game time. Not Michigan either, they're a mess right now. MSU at best but I see us in a tie with them and the Spartans in Lincoln, advantage us.

 

[knapplc]

Sparty won't win the division. They were 6-7 two years ago and went 11-2 this year vs. the #65 schedule. They got trounced by an 8-5 Iowa team. They were completely exposed in the Capital One Bowl.

We are NOT Alabama, but we're damned close where it counts - on defense. A stout defensive effort will slow down the Spartans enough to let even our anemic offense earn a win.

 

[Creed]

Let's give a "fair and balanced" report. You put in Texas (as the Big 12 Marquee Team) vs Big 10. Ohio State (Big 10 Marquee Team)has a very good record against the Big 12.

BCS Era:

#1 OSU W 35-14 #21 Missouri

#3 OSU W 24-14 vs #8 A&M

#13 OSU W 45-21 vs UR Texas Tech

#7 OSU W 35-28 vs #10 K-State

#22 OSU W 33-7 vs ur Ok State

#7 OSU L 22-25 vs #2 Texas

#1 OSU w 24-7 vs #2 Texas

#10 OSU L 24-21 vs #3 Texas

That's 6-2 vs Big 12.

2010 Bowls:

Big 10 3-5

Big 12 3-5

2010 Bowls Head to Head:

Big 10 2 Big 12 1. The Big 12 win was over NW who was without their QB and stilled scored 38 on TT.

2010 Marquee Bowl Win:

OSU over #7 Arkansas

OU over unranked UConn.

 

[knapplc]

2010 Bowls:

Big 10 3-5

Big 12 3-5

Not a lot of reason for chest-pounding by either conference.

 

[ADS]

Big 10 2 Big 12 1. The Big 12 win was over NW who was without their QB and stilled scored 38 on TT.

If Dan Persa was playing in the game, Texas Tech would not have won.