Husker Offensive Units: Better or Worse this year?

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The thing is, I’m not sure that our problems were due to the players. Putting better athletes on the field may not solve anything. But since there’s no way to know if our schemes/play calling/other factors will improve, I guess we can only look at the guys on the field.

O-line, better or worse?

WRs/TE?

QB?

RB?

kicker? (What, not part of offense?? Hey, #90 was the *best* part of our offense much of last year.)

 
O-line: Worse, slightly—until we can figure out the snap count and quit killing drives with holding penalties. We lose Ricky Henry—maybe our best O-lineman—and D.J. Jones and Keith Williams. (And Mike Smith was already lost.) The guys behind them right now are Brent Qvale, Marcel Jones, Andrew Rodriguez. I wouldn’t be surprised to see guys shifted around to maybe get Yoshi on the field since he’s behind Sirles right now. I’m looking forward to seeing some of the guys who redshirted last year. Like Mike Moudy.

WRs/TE: Better. We lose a tremendous athlete (Niles Paul) and maybe the best hands on the team ( McNeill). But keep Kinnie, Gilleylen and Quincy Enunwa. These guys will step up. We’ll be okay, maybe better. And Ben Cotton, despite all the grief he gets, is actually a pretty good blocker.

QB: Better. Martinez, healthy and with an offseason of training. He’s gonna run wild. I hope he figures out how to work through the progression when we decide to air the ball.

RB: Worse. Don’t get me wrong, I love Rex. But he can’t do it alone. And I’m not sure what kind of depth we got. We're gonna miss Roy. Dontrayevous was stupid for leaving.

kicker: *sigh* We may never have a kicker as good at Henery again.

 
OL - Worse to begin the year but MIGHT be roughly equal by the end of the season. There will probably be a steep learning curve for some new starters but there is talent to work with here. Prove me wrong Cotton.

TE - Better. Ben Cotton is improving and Reed is an absolute mismatch for linebackers. Hopefully the QB can get the ball to these guys.

WR - Equal or slightly better. Thanks for your time at Nebraska, Niles, but I'm not sorry to see you move on to the NFL. I don't know if it was coaching, over thinking or what . . . but I don't know that I have ever seen a player with Niles' potential produce so little. (I'm speaking about on field production with a given physical talent level and not a Lawrence Philips type of situation.) The man had 5 receiving touchdowns in his career . . . FIVE. Kinne doesn't have the speed or the measurables but he seems to be able to actually catch the ball. Gilleylen will still be a non-factor. Young guys (Enunwa, I'm looking at you) need to step up.

RB - Worse. Helu was an excellent running back. Burkhead has the consistency but is not the breakaway threat that Helu was this year. The depth here is a little scary. We NEEDED Heard to qualify. Looks like there won't be a redshirt in Aaron Green's future.

QB - Slightly better. I'm still not convinced that Martinez is the answer we are looking for but he will probably be the starter. He's going to have to learn how to throw passes other than deep bombs and intermediate slants. Some sort of lateral agility would be welcome as well. The depth should be OK with Green (average) Carnes (unknown) and Turner (unknown).

K - Much, MUCH worse. Sorry new guy, whoever you are. Those shoes are probably un-fillable.

Overall, I expect about the same as last year. The offense will look like world beaters against bad teams and disappear entirely in big games. My mind is made up but the Husker fan in me desperately hopes that I am wrong about Watson/Cotton/Gilmore.

 
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OL - Worse to begin the year but MIGHT be roughly equal by the end of the season. There will probably be a steep learning curve for some new starters but there is talent to work with here. Prove me wrong Cotton.

TE - Better. Ben Cotton is improving and Reed is an absolute mismatch for linebackers. Hopefully the QB can get the ball to these guys.

WR - Equal or slightly better. Thanks for your time at Nebraska, Niles, but I'm not sorry to see you move on to the NFL. I don't know if it was coaching, over thinking or what . . . but I don't know that I have ever seen a player with Niles' potential produce so little. (I'm speaking about on field production with a given physical talent level and not a Lawrence Philips type of situation.) The man had 5 receiving touchdowns in his career . . . FIVE. Kinne doesn't have the speed or the measurables but he seems to be able to actually catch the ball. Gilleylen will still be a non-factor. Young guys (Enunwa, I'm looking at you) need to step up.

RB - Worse. Helu was an excellent running back. Burkhead has the consistency but is not the breakaway threat that Helu was this year. The depth here is a little scary. We NEEDED Heard to qualify. Looks like there won't be a redshirt in Aaron Green's future.

QB - Slightly better. I'm still not convinced that Martinez is the answer we are looking for but he will probably be the starter. He's going to have to learn how to throw passes other than deep bombs and intermediate slants. Some sort of lateral agility would be welcome as well. The depth should be OK with Green (average) Carnes (unknown) and Turner (unknown).

K - Much, MUCH worse. Sorry new guy, whoever you are. Those shoes are probably un-fillable.

Overall, I expect about the same as last year. The offense will look like world beaters against bad teams and disappear entirely in big games. My mind is made up but the Husker fan in me desperately hopes that I am wrong about Watson/Cotton/Gilmore.

Yeah, I forgot about Kyler Reed. I hope we can figure out a way to get the ball in his hands more.

I agree with all. But hope you are wrong about being able to expect the same as last year. If we don't fix the things that were broken in last year's offense, I think I going to quit watching football at the end of September. It could be a painful first year in the Big 10.

 
I agree with all. But hope you are wrong about being able to expect the same as last year. If we don't fix the things that were broken in last year's offense, I think I going to quit watching football at the end of September. It could be a painful first year in the Big 10.
I hope I'm wrong too. Very much so.

 
O-line: Worse, slightly—until we can figure out the snap count and quit killing drives with holding penalties. We lose Ricky Henry—maybe our best O-lineman—and D.J. Jones and Keith Williams. (And Mike Smith was already lost.) The guys behind them right now are Brent Qvale, Marcel Jones, Andrew Rodriguez. I wouldn’t be surprised to see guys shifted around to maybe get Yoshi on the field since he’s behind Sirles right now. I’m looking forward to seeing some of the guys who redshirted last year. Like Mike Moudy.

WRs/TE: Better. We lose a tremendous athlete (Niles Paul) and maybe the best hands on the team ( McNeill). But keep Kinnie, Gilleylen and Quincy Enunwa. These guys will step up. We’ll be okay, maybe better. And Ben Cotton, despite all the grief he gets, is actually a pretty good blocker.

QB: Better. Martinez, healthy and with an offseason of training. He’s gonna run wild. I hope he figures out how to work through the progression when we decide to air the ball.

RB: Worse. Don’t get me wrong, I love Rex. But he can’t do it alone. And I’m not sure what kind of depth we got. We're gonna miss Roy. Dontrayevous was stupid for leaving.

kicker: *sigh* We may never have a kicker as good at Henery again.

OL --- Worse --- losing Henry, Williams and Jones will hurt. The returning people should all improve: M. Jones (who needs to get stronger), Sirles (who needs to get stronger), Yoshi (who needs to drop 30 pounds), Caputo, Rodriguez, Quave, etc. But these guys were undisciplined, penalty prone and inconsistent in terms of intensity and physicality. My fear in the Big 10 is that if our guys on the OL stay somewhat... fat and not overly strong... they will struggle. So.... if the conditioning improves, and the returning guys all improve... they may be close to last years crew. But the discipline (lack thereof) is a coaching thing... and if that and conditioning do not improve, then the OL gets worse.

WR stay the same... But still are not a strong crew. Losing Paul is, in a sense, addition by subtraction. He took off 1/2 the plays, had horrible hands and was really spotty. He will not be missed overly. Kinnie and Enunwa have to improve a great deal. If so the WR's stay about where they were --- and will be in the bottom 3-4 units in the conference.

TE will improve as two good players, Reed and Cotton return more experienced.

RB. Will? Who knows. Helu was a great player and will be missed. Rex is solid. It depends on how good guys like Green and Abdullah are as true freshman. So this one is hard to measure. I'd venture a guess that the RB situation will not be a weakness... and likely not a strength either. It is we OK. Unless one or both of the frosh guys are the real deal right out of the box... at which point the group will be better than OK

QB --- the play at QB last year was abysmal. So the standards are really, really low. So... sure... things must improve, that is the only direction that things can go. Our passing game last year was a grave liability with both TMart and Green --- both possessing poor mechanics and neither having displayed the ability to deliver the ball consistently through the air. Both struggled mightily with fumbles. Both made routine poor decisions on throwing into coverage (picks or near picks resulting). TMart, in particular, is among the worst I have ever seen in terms of taking needless sacks --- never even thinking about throwing the ball away. Neither step up to evade pressure well. Both showed the signs of stress and neither handled pressure well. Both showed confusion far more often than is typical for D1 QB's. Most of this falls into either of two categories (or both) --- bad coaching and inexperience. I'd guess the coaching will not improve (unless a new offensive staff is hired and that seems unlikely) but experience should help with the jitters, the confusion, and the mistakes and even perhaps the fumbles. So... the QB situation should get better --- but will still likely be quite weak .. in the absolute sense.

Overall assessment... we will once more have an anemic offense that may be held at 10 points or under in 3-4 games next year. If they limit the turnovers and do not allow the defense of the opponent to score.. we might still be in some of those low scoring games. But... this offense will score precious few points against even a decent defense. This is both due to predictable and limited scheming, and limited skill.

 
Offensive Line - Worse. We lose three guys with serious playing time and arguably our best linemen in Henry. We have young guys behind them but then little depth behind them. We also have an offensive line coached I'm not convinced can get it done here. But, we'll see. This is his last grace period year for me. If we get progressively worse or not very good again this year, he's gotta go.

WR - Equal. We'll continue to have guys make plays, still won't have the consistent deep threat, and I believe we'll have some guys that are inconsistent especially when it comes to catching the football. Again, not convinced Gilmore can get these guys to the caliber they need to be to make this offense work. He's good at getting them to block the perimeter, but that's about it imho.

QB - Better, but only just. Martinez with a year under his belt and healthy will be great, but he still has a lot of issues he needs to fix. A lot. His pocket presence is the number one issue. Cody Green still has things he needs to work out himself, and then behind him we have unproven guys.

RB - Worse. Rex is back but we lost Helu (a guy who had a quiet, but pretty damn good Husker career) and Robinson. Burkhead is really the only proven remaining back, and even he doesn't have the break away speed that we need to find. Hopefully one of the young guys has it.

Kicker - Obviously, and significantly, worse. Henery and Kunalic gone is a double whammy, and if you take into account that we lost a good kicker for this class AND that the current backs up we have don't have any actual game experience, we're a little screwed in this area.

 
Assuming no coaching or scheme changes, here's how I see it shaking down:

QB: [+] Martinez with some more experience, plus other QBs on the roster who can push him (Carnes, Green, Turner)

RB: [-] Losing Helu will hurt, no doubt, but I have a good feeling about Green and Abdullah. I am reaching a bit here, but I always felt there was a lot of overlap between Roy and Rex. It will be nice to pair a bruiser-type back like Rex with a couple of speedsters like Green and Abdullah. To some extent, I always sort of felt like you could have plugged other guys in Roy's shoes and they would have more or less contributed about the same. I actually think we'll be able to keep up pace through either Green, Abdullah, or both. Depth is a major concern here, though. If Rex gets dinged up, we could be in serious trouble. Thus, I will say slightly worse.

WR: [PUSH] Losing McNeill and Paul can't make the unit better, as maligned as Paul was. Still, I think there are some young, hungry guys on the roster who will step up and make big plays.

O-Line: [--] We lose a lot of vets, particularly Ricky Henry. We have some young talent coming in, but it is unproven. Coaching is a major concern here, making me uncertain about our ability to develop that talent. This unit will be worse overall, which is a scary proposition based on what we saw last year.

Kicking: [----] No disrespect to the current and future kickers on our roster, but replacing Henery is going to be impossible. I doubt we'll ever have a kicker like him again. Henery, Koch, and Kunalic's faces belong on the Mount Rushmore of Husker special teams greats.

All in all, unless we see significant changes to our schemes and coaches---and I think there's a good chance we might---I expect something like the 2009/late 2010 offense next year.

 
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A lot will depend on what changes we make this offseason and what development we get at qb. Whether TM or whomever can make the next step will be huge in how many games we win.

I think the line will be about the same. Tackle and center should be improved. Young guards will really need to step-up. Line would be helped by playcalling and qb-play that can keep the D off-balance.

WR will be around the same. Hard to be optimistic after the last two meh seasons.

TE should be good. Hope Reed's blocking improves and becomes a more complete TE, he's obviously a playmaker. Will be interested to see if any of the walk-ons can have an impact.

Without the money kicking of Henery we really need to finish more drives.

RB-hard to say what we'll see. Just how good can Green be as a frosh? Will Heard get here. Can any of Rex's current back-ups do anything? Can Rex hold-up to the reps and beating he'll take? Roy's big-play ability will be missed.

We have a quality D. The O doesn't need to be killer. It does need to be able to put up decent points consistently and quit blowing their leg off with dumb penalties and fumbles.

Can we hold on to the damn ball? CAN WE? We led the nation in fumbles, great way to blow games. Beck needs to work with his backs and everyone that totes the rock on ball-security.

 
I don't see much of a difference at RB besides the loss of Helu. Rex can take over along with Green and it's just as good or maybe even better. QB will be better with another season to progress and hopefully the addition of Bubba. WR is a small loss from Paul but look for Kinnie to shine. TE is strong with Kyler Reed as the unsung hero. OL is my biggest concern, I don't wanna see another complete collapse of protection like in the Wash game again. If we do it will be trouble. K when has this ever been a problem.

 
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I don't see much of a difference at RB besides the loss of Helu. Rex can take over along with Green and it's just as good or maybe even better. QB will be better with another season to progress and hopefully the addition of Bubba. WR is a small loss from Paul but look for Kinnie to shine. TE is strong with Kyler Reed as the unsung hero. OL is my biggest concern, I don't wanna see another complete collapse of protection like in the Wash game again. If we do it will be trouble. K when has this ever been a problem.
Yeah, O-line is my biggest concern too. We lose a couple of our best guys--at least one (Ricky Henry) might be NFL caliber. And there was plenty of room for improvement last year, even with those guys. Nothing to do but wait and see. And hope.

 
Doesn't matter which units improve individually or tank. Our offensive problems are systemic and won't be solved by one or two guys stepping up.

 
Doesn't matter which units improve individually or tank. Our offensive problems are systemic and won't be solved by one or two guys stepping up.
Funny that in just three year's time we switched from having a decent offense/no defense to having a great defense/no offense. I guess that's not funny. It's tragic.

 
I think it will be slightly better, as mentioned some new people coming in but with this type of offense there is less room for mistakes, and execution and assignments are key. They have more experience running it now, if they are not better, there really is no excuse.

 
It's pretty tough for me to imagine the OL being worse in 2011 than it was in 2010. I see where some/a lot of guys are saying the RB will be worse, but I actually think we'll be better there. Helu put the ball on the turf at some of the worst imagineable times possible while Rex did not. Texas anyone? The QB position should be better. WR with Gilmore's careful hand and steady eye will be just as horrible as it was this year. Niles dropped his fair share of passes, but so did everyone else.

I see the 2011 offense as a unit being better. I would hope we will not lead the nation again in fumbles. However, I would not be shocked at all to see Nebraska lead the Big 10 in penalties making Bo 4-0 in that department.

 
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