Ross Els to meet with Bo today about LB position.

[da skers]

And look where Ekeler ended up.

What really disappoints me about this potential hire is it seems we have two choices here. Nevermind talking about top coaches, we have Doug Colman, a guy that did great work here in '08 and '09 and was great with the LBs. A young guy that doesn't have much of a resume but could be moving on up the coaching ranks. He has some pretty eclectic experience in just a short time, and is credited both for his work with our linebackers in 2009 (Dillard in particular) and with a solid recruiting reputation, to go along with getting us ins with New Jersey. He is a young guy that could be primed for something good and should be getting better jobs than he has now in the future. This is his first year as a LBs coach.

Els is several years older with a much longer resume, but he is just a linebackers coach at Ohio University and has been for six seasons. That and I don't know anything about him! Carl knows him from Ohio, I guess.

So someone should fill me in with some positive buzz about Els, or I'm going to be sour about this hire, especially after finally warming up to the idea of Colman.

That's your own fault. I stated a few weeks ago it was Els's job to lose.

He's actually had some pretty decent return guys go as far as their conference is concerned and also had a couple guys on the all conference awards at LB. Its hard to put someone first team every year when you're at Ohio. The guy is does know his special teams and we need that badly.

 

[Hunter94]

Bo made all of his decisions based on a slow, thought out, fair and logical examination of everything. It's not like we made a list of people with Nebraska ties. Coaching is about chemistry friendships and ties. The right choices are being made and the right people are being looked at. Nothing said on huskerboard will affect pelinis decisions. Relax. Enjoy the results and don't dwell on the negative.

If that logic doesn't include a new coordinator and at least one position coach, then we need to call it something else.

:yeah

 

[zoogs]

And look where Ekeler ended up.

What really disappoints me about this potential hire is it seems we have two choices here. Nevermind talking about top coaches, we have Doug Colman, a guy that did great work here in '08 and '09 and was great with the LBs. A young guy that doesn't have much of a resume but could be moving on up the coaching ranks. He has some pretty eclectic experience in just a short time, and is credited both for his work with our linebackers in 2009 (Dillard in particular) and with a solid recruiting reputation, to go along with getting us ins with New Jersey. He is a young guy that could be primed for something good and should be getting better jobs than he has now in the future. This is his first year as a LBs coach.

Els is several years older with a much longer resume, but he is just a linebackers coach at Ohio University and has been for six seasons. That and I don't know anything about him! Carl knows him from Ohio, I guess.

So someone should fill me in with some positive buzz about Els, or I'm going to be sour about this hire, especially after finally warming up to the idea of Colman.

That's your own fault. I stated a few weeks ago it was Els's job to lose.

He's actually had some pretty decent return guys go as far as their conference is concerned and also had a couple guys on the all conference awards at LB. Its hard to put someone first team every year when you're at Ohio. The guy is does know his special teams and we need that badly.

No, I remember and I have heard the Els buzz for a few weeks now. He just doesn't excite me nearly as much as Colman, from a coaching LBs or a recruiting standpoint. You gotta go with the guy Bo would work with better, but I still am high on Colman...

 

[RockyMountainOySker]

And look where Ekeler ended up.

What really disappoints me about this potential hire is it seems we have two choices here. Nevermind talking about top coaches, we have Doug Colman, a guy that did great work here in '08 and '09 and was great with the LBs. A young guy that doesn't have much of a resume but could be moving on up the coaching ranks. He has some pretty eclectic experience in just a short time, and is credited both for his work with our linebackers in 2009 (Dillard in particular) and with a solid recruiting reputation, to go along with getting us ins with New Jersey. He is a young guy that could be primed for something good and should be getting better jobs than he has now in the future. This is his first year as a LBs coach.

Els is several years older with a much longer resume, but he is just a linebackers coach at Ohio University and has been for six seasons. That and I don't know anything about him! Carl knows him from Ohio, I guess.

So someone should fill me in with some positive buzz about Els, or I'm going to be sour about this hire, especially after finally warming up to the idea of Colman.

That's your own fault. I stated a few weeks ago it was Els's job to lose.

He's actually had some pretty decent return guys go as far as their conference is concerned and also had a couple guys on the all conference awards at LB. Its hard to put someone first team every year when you're at Ohio. The guy is does know his special teams and we need that badly.

No, I remember and I have heard the Els buzz for a few weeks now. He just doesn't excite me nearly as much as Colman, from a coaching LBs or a recruiting standpoint. You gotta go with the guy Bo would work with better, but I still am high on Colman...

I might be jumping into the middle of a discussion but a lot of it has to do with coaching philosophies. Els worked with Carl before which makes the transition for the every staff member that much easier. A young up and coming coach won't be happy with being taught a different way. Not to mention, those up and coming coaches probably don't see themselves as a LB to begin with....all their aspirations are to become a d-coordinator or head coach. A big name guy isn't going to come here to be the LBs coach.

 

[zoogs]

I get that, but Colman worked with this whole staff before, as a defensive quality assistant. '08 and '09, I believe, may have just been '09. And during that time, he was lauded for his work with the LBs, specifically our best one of the time. Many felt he did more for our LBs than the actual guy with the job title while he was here, and that he made a great impression on everyone. Not even asking for a big name guy here. Colman is a former Nebraska linebacker. Graduated after the '95 season, I believe, and was a 6th round draft pick.

I've seen some speculation that Bo wants a guy who is less likely to challenge him. Which is a different matter, as if that's the case then it's less coaching philosophies and more a fault of Bo not being able to deal with people (other than his brother) who will push back. The best head men, in my opinion, embrace that out of their employees.

But of course, no idea if that is the case or not. Bo could well be spot on about Els.

 

[knapplc]

I've seen some speculation that Bo wants a guy who is less likely to challenge him. Which is a different matter, as if that's the case then it's less coaching philosophies and more a fault of Bo not being able to deal with people (other than his brother) who will push back. The best head men, in my opinion, embrace that out of their employees.

Where in the world do you come up with stuff like this? This is the kind of stuff I'd be sure to have the ability to back up before I'd post.

 

[zoogs]

Just throwing out what a respected poster at HI posted. If you ask me, it is quite unsupported conjecture, which is why I presented it on theoretical terms. Although Bo is just enough of a control maniac in other phases, from the media to the offense, that it sort of caught my interest and made me wonder.

If Bo would rather work with Els than Colman though, there's no question what will work better for us going forward. And Bo is enough of a defensive magician that his methods probably shouldn't be questioned.

Still, too bad for Doug.

 

[Lil' Red]

I trust most defensive hires the staff makes especially if they are familiar with the coach like Carl is. I'm more concerned about hires on the offensive side of the ball.

 

[huskerscott]

Im just throwing this out their..... but maybe Coleman was offered the job and turned it down. Maybe Coleman likes it at Tulane and doesnt want to pick up and move again. Some coaches if they get somewhere their families like, they become content just stay in that area.... until their dream job opens up. For Coleman it could be a D-Coordinator job or something. Coleman could be just building his resume and hopping around could look bad if a university wants him as a long term employee.

Again, Im just stating some possiblities on why Coleman isnt among the talk about the LB coach.

 

[PaulCrewe]

I am in the Coleman camp, especially over Els. But my dislike of Els is personal. Ross recruited me my senior year of high school when he was at Hastings. After deciding on a different school, I called all the other coaches to let them know of decision. All were curtious and wished me luck except one. Ross Els. I pretty much got ripped for my decision and was told that I wasn't a big loss to them, pretty much reversing all the sunshine he pumped up my backside while recruiting me. Like I said it's a personal preference for me. I had friends that played for him at Hastings and then one at NMSU, they all agreed on this. He is a very good coach, but a total prick.

Now he probably has changed, but after all the positive things that were being said about Coleman during his tenure here, I would take Doug over Els.

 

[da skers]

I am in the Coleman camp, especially over Els. But my dislike of Els is personal. Ross recruited me my senior year of high school when he was at Hastings. After deciding on a different school, I called all the other coaches to let them know of decision. All were curtious and wished me luck except one. Ross Els. I pretty much got ripped for my decision and was told that I wasn't a big loss to them, pretty much reversing all the sunshine he pumped up my backside while recruiting me. Like I said it's a personal preference for me. I had friends that played for him at Hastings and then one at NMSU, they all agreed on this. He is a very good coach, but a total prick.

Now he probably has changed, but after all the positive things that were being said about Coleman during his tenure here, I would take Doug over Els.

He sounds kind of like Bo then. <_<

 

[knapplc]

Els is going to be the guy. They aren't bringing him in for an interview for nothing. If he's come to Lincoln (not sure if that's true) the job is his.

 

[Danimal]

It is worth noting JP and Carl had lesser resumes than Els. Also noteworthy that Carl coached a considerable amount of time alongside Els, he knows what he would be getting.

Not sayin Els is or should be the hire, I think we should hire the best guy we can, just saying Bo has produced a quality D with sleeper-hires.

 

[Ratt Mhule]

Just to be clear, am I or am I not going to be offered the LB coaching job?

Well since I apparently think I know more than TO and Bo and I know I will become the next head coach at Nebraska...bc once again I know more than Bo and TO combined. I would def. love to have you on my staff. Just stay out of my way bc I am a know it all and I know more than anyone out there...ah yes, I almost forgot to add :sarcasm But seriously, you'd make a hell of a LBs coach! Just teach them the triangle choke and the kimura and the other team would have no chance!

 

[BigWillie]

Els is going to be the guy. They aren't bringing him in for an interview for nothing. If he's come to Lincoln (not sure if that's true) the job is his.

Other coaches have been brought in, quietly. Does not mean much.

But Els, among a couple other guys, are the leaders of the pack.

JMO about Els - you spend 20 years in coaching, and the highest level you coach at is New Mexico State and Ohio? Do. Not. Want.

Give me the young, energetic and go-getting Doug Colman. Would rather take a chance on a young coach, than a guy who has been around and barely moved up in the coaching world.