Chaddyboxer
Banned
Look at our damn DB's! We rarely let a big run play happen. I haven't seen a team smoke us all over the field. These athletes are well trained and conditioned.
How Great is Dobson
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Chaddyboxer
Banned
Agreeeed. There are plenty of sh**ty strenght and conditioning coaches out there also. Dobson is great.zoogies said:
Chaddyboxer
Banned
And yeah....I agree also, a bit of healthy skepticism isn't bad at all. The Big 10 better be ready, b/c I bet the Huskers will be
gobiggergoredder
All-American
It's about a lot more than strength. I really think this dude is on another level. I think he knows how to condition high level athletes.
I noticed this year (they may have been doing it longer then that), they are no longer doing the the traditional warm ups prior to games. It's a gradual progression of intensity and there is very little static (count to ten and release) stretching. It looks disorganized, but Dobson is walking through the group the entire time.
This is something that is slowly starting to gain momentum, but a lot of speed athletes have been doing this for years.
For those of us old school and backyard coaches, there is a lot data that says stretching for injury prevention is a myth.
I noticed this year (they may have been doing it longer then that), they are no longer doing the the traditional warm ups prior to games. It's a gradual progression of intensity and there is very little static (count to ten and release) stretching. It looks disorganized, but Dobson is walking through the group the entire time.
This is something that is slowly starting to gain momentum, but a lot of speed athletes have been doing this for years.
For those of us old school and backyard coaches, there is a lot data that says stretching for injury prevention is a myth.
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kchusker_chris
All-American
Ricky Henry finished last in the bench press at 20.
Ricky Henry finished 2nd to last in the vertical at 24
Ricky Henry finished 2nd to last in the 40 at 5.75
Ricky Henry finished 2nd to last in the broad jump at 7'6"
Keith Williams finished 3rd to last in the vertical at 24.5
Keith Williams finished almost last in the 20-yard shuttle
Keith Williams finished 2nd to last in the 3-cone drill
DeJon Games finished 2nd to last in the vertical at 31.0
Niles Paul finished last in the 60-yard shuttle at 11.75
I'm not sayin you can attribute these solely to Dobson.
I wouldn't measure Dobson positively or negatively based on the combine. I've read numerious articles where he he mentiones the combine drills have little to do w/ real world football. How often as a RB do you run 40 yards? A handful of times each season. How often do you run 10 yards? Almost every posession. Which is more important?
knapplc
International Man of Mystery
Yikes. I know the Combine isn't exactly the best indicator of football acumen or success, but those are scary results no matter how you look at it.
Maybe that explains why we had such trouble the last couple of seasons with the line? Maybe Cotton really wasn't the problem? Or maybe Cotton was SO MUCH the problem that these formerly good players (or good prospects) fell apart under him?
Those are tough results to stomach. :mellow:
zoogs
Assistant Coach
I don't think you look at combine results of a few top prospects. You look at how physical and how well the entire team performs.
I'm not too surprised about Ricky's athleticism. I thought Keith would have been more of a beast though. Granted he's dealt with a lot of injury issues lately, and I suppose he wasn't in that 'athletic, lithe' OL mold anyway.
I'm not too surprised about Ricky's athleticism. I thought Keith would have been more of a beast though. Granted he's dealt with a lot of injury issues lately, and I suppose he wasn't in that 'athletic, lithe' OL mold anyway.
knapplc
International Man of Mystery
But Henry was supposed to be this great physical beast. I find it hard to believe he was such a beast when he couldn't do as many bench reps as Niles Paul.
I don't know. Maybe he's just "football good" and not such a great performer in the weight room. Stranger things have happened.
I don't know. Maybe he's just "football good" and not such a great performer in the weight room. Stranger things have happened.
kchusker_chris
All-American
Saunders
Heisman Trophy Winner
This is the biggest thing that Dobson has done. Our 09 defense (arguably the one of the best we've had) played a ridiculous amount of snaps, shut down so many offenses, and our starters were in for almost the entirety of every game.. Yet, our guys weren't getting gassed. That is huge.
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zoogs
Assistant Coach
Was he? I thought he was supposed to be just nuts aggressive. I don't remember if he had a reputation for being really strong or fast or whatever, mostly that he was bang up crazy.
Niles benched more than just a few OL at the combine too, he did have that rep as a physical freak.
I'm not sure about this by the way - do longer wingspans make it more difficult for some of these OL to put up reps compared to really strong, but smaller guys?
Niles benched more than just a few OL at the combine too, he did have that rep as a physical freak.
I'm not sure about this by the way - do longer wingspans make it more difficult for some of these OL to put up reps compared to really strong, but smaller guys?
knapplc
International Man of Mystery
I just figured that if he's nuts aggressive, he'd have to have nuts strength to back up that aggression. Doesn't do much good to be aggressive and in-your-face if you're just going to get smooshed by the next D Lineman you face, I would think.
Lyons in the Sea of Red.
All-Conference
This is something that is discussed on weight rooms all the time. Idk if I believe it or not. However, it is true that they must lift the weight at larger distances. I don't want to get all physics on you, but the farther the distance the more force its going to take to move a mass. Momentum also plays a factor.