Sipple: Coaches say Taylor Martinez ramping up his game

zoogies said:
Hunter94 said:
this is not good, Beck better not pull a Watson and have someone ready to play behind this kid, i seriously doubt he will make it though a Big 10 season..contingencies need to be made and i don't mean running the Rex-cat!
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Someone will be ready, IMO, and it has little to do with Beck or Watson, and everything to do with:

- Brion being off his redshirt

- Kody being another year removed from his freak injury

- Cody being a year older and a year wiser

Of course, say the #2 guy has injury problems. Then we'll still have problems next year.
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Nah. With Beck's simplified offense, the QB will be expected to do less. Unlike the Watson-Gilmore Disaster, we'll be more playmakers than just the QB and RB positions. With Turner, Rex, Bell, Reed, Green/Abdullah/Heard, and Kinnie to help them out, TM could go down and both Cody and Brion will be more than capable of keeping us going. We may not be ideal, but we'll still be quite effective.

But Taylor is definitely running on glass ankles. The training staff needs to find a way to tape the hell out of those things to keep him going.

 
knapplc said:
Denard Robinson - 6'0" 193lb

Taylor Martinez - 6'1" 205lb

Joey Ganz - 6'1" 210lb

Somehow I have a hard time getting all that concerned about Martinez's size.
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Psst Robinson isn't a great example like Martinez he had nagging injuries and Ganz only played a year and half?

 
bshirt said:
knapplc said:
Denard Robinson - 6'0" 193lb

Taylor Martinez - 6'1" 205lb

Joey Ganz - 6'1" 210lb

Somehow I have a hard time getting all that concerned about Martinez's size.
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Crouch was 6'0" 195 lbs....I'd say he turned out ok.
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I knew he was even smaller but I was too lazy to look up the stats. I happened to have the Shoelace/Ganzy/TMagic stats handy from another conversation.

 
Hujan said:
zoogies said:
Hunter94 said:
this is not good, Beck better not pull a Watson and have someone ready to play behind this kid, i seriously doubt he will make it though a Big 10 season..contingencies need to be made and i don't mean running the Rex-cat!
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Someone will be ready, IMO, and it has little to do with Beck or Watson, and everything to do with:

- Brion being off his redshirt

- Kody being another year removed from his freak injury

- Cody being a year older and a year wiser

Of course, say the #2 guy has injury problems. Then we'll still have problems next year.
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Nah. With Beck's simplified offense, the QB will be expected to do less. Unlike the Watson-Gilmore Disaster, we'll be more playmakers than just the QB and RB positions. With Turner, Rex, Bell, Reed, Green/Abdullah/Heard, and Kinnie to help them out, TM could go down and both Cody and Brion will be more than capable of keeping us going. We may not be ideal, but we'll still be quite effective.

But Taylor is definitely running on glass ankles. The training staff needs to find a way to tape the hell out of those things to keep him going.
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CG is the only other guy to take a snap at QB and that leaves me more than a little worried, especially with no experience behind Burkehead....wow!

 
bshirt said:
knapplc said:
Denard Robinson - 6'0" 193lb

Taylor Martinez - 6'1" 205lb

Joey Ganz - 6'1" 210lb

Somehow I have a hard time getting all that concerned about Martinez's size.
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Crouch was 6'0" 195 lbs....I'd say he turned out ok.
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Size isn't the issue for smaller QBs, especially those who run. But if you are a runner, you better be tough as nails. Crouch can just happened to be one of the toughest players we have had playing for us in a LONG time.

Taylor isn't that tough as nails style runner. That is fine, but if that is how he plays, he needs to learn how to absorb contact and when it is smart to sacrifice his body for the extra yardage. As a QB, he needs to be in it for the long haul of a season, rather than trying to grind out a few extra yards here and there by taking unnecessary punishment.

 
Hujan said:
zoogies said:
Hunter94 said:
this is not good, Beck better not pull a Watson and have someone ready to play behind this kid, i seriously doubt he will make it though a Big 10 season..contingencies need to be made and i don't mean running the Rex-cat!
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Someone will be ready, IMO, and it has little to do with Beck or Watson, and everything to do with:

- Brion being off his redshirt

- Kody being another year removed from his freak injury

- Cody being a year older and a year wiser

Of course, say the #2 guy has injury problems. Then we'll still have problems next year.
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Nah. With Beck's simplified offense, the QB will be expected to do less. Unlike the Watson-Gilmore Disaster, we'll be more playmakers than just the QB and RB positions. With Turner, Rex, Bell, Reed, Green/Abdullah/Heard, and Kinnie to help them out, TM could go down and both Cody and Brion will be more than capable of keeping us going. We may not be ideal, but we'll still be quite effective.

But Taylor is definitely running on glass ankles. The training staff needs to find a way to tape the hell out of those things to keep him going.
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That's actually not true, the quarterback will be expected to actually read the defense pre-snap and make audibles this year. Last year the play was called from the sideline and the QB ran it no matter what the defense showed.

Then the passing game was really pretty simple, 2 reads then tuck and run. Our line down the stretch combined with Martinez ankle were awful.

The terminology and concepts are expected to be more basic, yes, but the QB will be expected to do more than what happened last year.

Jamal Turner has been quoted as saying how much easier it is to learn at WR than QB, and that was part of the switch.

 
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skersfan said:
High ankle sprains can take up to 7=8 months to heal. Depending on the severity of it. It is a very slow healing process with lots of thereapy/rehab. I had a rider out for a year with one. As many times as he has reinjured it, and the severity of that reinjury makes it hard to tell where he is in the healing process.

A very painful injury, that at times can feel fine and just moving it the wrong way brings a tremendous amount of pain.

I hope he fully recovers over the summer, but high ankle sprains can be aggravated very easily doing simple things as tripping over a crack, sliding on gravel, you get the idea. Hopefully they will put him on the shelf for awhile. But Idoubt it.
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You are spot on, the minimum time for a severe high ankle sprain is about 3 months. Low ankle sprains don't take nearly as long to heal. I was hoping that the staff made sure that T-Mart didn't have any contact this spring, because it was clear that he was still not 100%. I'm not even sure that there is a surgery to repair it.

Hopefully, either Starling actually makes it on campus, or Turner gets moved back to QB, cause I can't see T-Mart being 100% this year.

 
huskerscott said:
Suddenly people are somewhat worried about the season.
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I wouldn't say worried, but we need a solid Plan B.

I hope this kid exceeds our expectations, but being realistic, I worry about the ankle, and his dodgy decision making in pressure situations.

 
bshirt said:
huskerscott said:
bshirt said:
knapplc said:
Denard Robinson - 6'0" 193lb

Taylor Martinez - 6'1" 205lb

Joey Ganz - 6'1" 210lb

Somehow I have a hard time getting all that concerned about Martinez's size.
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Crouch was 6'0" 195 lbs....I'd say he turned out ok.
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I hope he makes the nighthawks roster.
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Heh, you just "got" to put down everybody. So sad NU can't recuit true studs like you.
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I was being serious. you just "got" to lighten up alittle.

 
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74Hunter said:
skersfan said:
High ankle sprains can take up to 7=8 months to heal. Depending on the severity of it. It is a very slow healing process with lots of thereapy/rehab. I had a rider out for a year with one. As many times as he has reinjured it, and the severity of that reinjury makes it hard to tell where he is in the healing process.

A very painful injury, that at times can feel fine and just moving it the wrong way brings a tremendous amount of pain.

I hope he fully recovers over the summer, but high ankle sprains can be aggravated very easily doing simple things as tripping over a crack, sliding on gravel, you get the idea. Hopefully they will put him on the shelf for awhile. But Idoubt it.
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You are spot on, the minimum time for a severe high ankle sprain is about 3 months. Low ankle sprains don't take nearly as long to heal. I was hoping that the staff made sure that T-Mart didn't have any contact this spring, because it was clear that he was still not 100%. I'm not even sure that there is a surgery to repair it.

Hopefully, either Starling actually makes it on campus, or Turner gets moved back to QB, cause I can't see T-Mart being 100% this year.
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They need to call a high ankle sprain what it is. A de facto broken leg.

I hope he's fine. The kid is flat out electrifying when healthy, and honestly the first guy I've seen at NU in a long while who has the "wow" factor on offense

 
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