Russell Wilson pursued by Nebraska

[EZ-E]

I dont think that it has to do with nobody having confidence. I think it is moreso that Bo would like an experienced kid that can give Carnes another year to work. Think about it fellas, we have a new offense this year so it isn't like he would be that much behind anyone. Only person he would really be behind in grasping the offense is Carnes. Definitely not T-Magic.

 

[huskerscott]

not no but tahell NO!

there is not a reason to take a full season of playing time from a player that needs more in game experience. this would be almost as stupid as taking sam keller and playing him over joe ganz. im glad some of you arent running the team because if you were we would have different players at every position every season and never get any continuity. continuity makes a team good, not a "one year stand qb that played in a poor conference".

So you're saying that players like Cam Newton can't just transfer in for a year and make a difference?

if cam newton wants to transfer in from the NFL then please by all means!!!!

just because he was a transfer doesnt mean that every transfer is cameron newton...

So transfer quarterbacks can't make a difference unless they're Cam Newton... or Ryan Mallett or Nick Foles or GJ Kinne. Or the vast number of successful transfer quarterbacks from years past.

Apparently they cant according to some. Nobody is arguing that Wilson is Cam Newton, people are just noting the success Cam had at Auburn last year. If Wilson is better than what we got right now, than I have no problem bringing him in. In college football its a must win NOW for programs like Nebraska. If a transfer can come in and win the job from a previous year starter, than thats on the player for not improving his game enough to hold down the job.

Wilson wasnt the bigtime recruit that Newton was orginally. Keller/Ganz were polar opposites when comparing recruiting classes. Keller was a stud alot of people wanted, Ganz was nobody wanted besides Nebraska.

i dont think that anyone has said that a transfer cant be successful. what people are saying is, "why would you want to possibly hurt team chemistry by bringing this guy in when we clearly have 1 or more very capable qbs already in the system that know the system and dont have to learn a playbook in 4 months?" I have personally played college ball for a short time in the past and i can tell you that learning a playbook in a short amount of time is no easy task no matter how smart said player is. the playbook that i had to learn was exactly 206 pages long and full of terms that i had never heard before that.

now i know that some of you have issues with martinez as the starter but i would think that it would be painfully obvious that the person that matters (Bo Pelini) knows that Martinez can and will do the job as the starter. discussion is one thing but having a grudge against a particular player because you dont like the way he stands on the sidelines or talks to freakin steven sipple is a completely different thing.

at the end of the day bo will watch practice and decide on a qb and from what i know, that guy is martinez.

The issues I have had with Martinez are the very same ones that are shared by many on this board, so singling me out "with my issues" is bush league. Overall, im done with it..... cause its a very sensitve subject for Martinez fans.

If Wilson does come here, it means that Bo feels he can contribute to the team, it also means our QB situation is in some serious trouble. I have said, I dont feel one year guys are the answer, but with the reasons I stated in the previous sentence, I have no problem with it.

They are gonna talk about Wilsons situation on CFB live.

i guess i dont recall singling you out? never once did i say "huskerscott", i replied to you in that post because you replied to my post not to try to single you out.

you are correct the issues that you have with martinez are shared with the minority of the board. however, those of you whom do feel that way base it off of issues that you have no direct knowledge of. it is just a bunch of conspiracy theories when it was obvious to everyone else that martinez played hurt but that is commonly pushed to the side as rubbish to some on this board and only this board.

i just hope that when he proves some of you wrong by the end of his career that you are here to eat some crow, because if i am wrong i will certainly be here to do the same.

my apologies, I got my user names mixed up. Apparently me and my "blind mob" fit true to the name.

If Taylor does have a successful year then it will prove alot of skeptics wrong, including myself.

 

[huskerscott]

i guess i dont recall singling you out? never once did i say "huskerscott", i replied to you in that post because you replied to my post not to try to single you out.
you are correct the issues that you have with martinez are shared with the minority of the board. however, those of you whom do feel that way base it off of issues that you have no direct knowledge of. it is just a bunch of conspiracy theories when it was obvious to everyone else that martinez played hurt but that is commonly pushed to the side as rubbish to some on this board and only this board.

i just hope that when he proves some of you wrong by the end of his career that you are here to eat some crow, because if i am wrong i will certainly be here to do the same.

So Martinez did exactly the same thing Lee did the year prior. He lit up the competition early on in the year, got hurt and had a crappy finish to the season. I didn't see Lee starting the following year. Not sure why everyone is so confident Martinez will be this year. A scout team WR unseated Lee - Martinez has some legitimate competition behind him. Not saying it will happen - but I personally can't see how as the 2010 season fades away, people's confidence in Martinez continues to grow and grow. This same thread would have had a very different tone to it in January. What's changed that makes everyone so much more confident today?

I wonder the samething. Maybe because we have an unproven OC at reins this year. :sarcasm

My only real argument is that Martinez is still technically injured and with that Carnes could take the job if Martinez struggles to get over the injury or struggles to pick up the offense or gets injured again. With that argument I get- he was a freshman, he was hurt, and he tore apart the 80th ranked defense in country for yards given up.

 

[Minnesota_husker]

I dont think that it has to do with nobody having confidence. I think it is moreso that Bo would like an experienced kid that can give Carnes another year to work. Think about it fellas, we have a new offense this year so it isn't like he would be that much behind anyone. Only person he would really be behind in grasping the offense is Carnes. Definitely not T-Magic.

He wont come in here to ride the bench.. If he is coming, he is only coming to start.

 

[EZ-E]

I dont think that it has to do with nobody having confidence. I think it is moreso that Bo would like an experienced kid that can give Carnes another year to work. Think about it fellas, we have a new offense this year so it isn't like he would be that much behind anyone. Only person he would really be behind in grasping the offense is Carnes. Definitely not T-Magic.

He wont come in here to ride the bench.. If he is coming, he is only coming to start.

Very true. I do in fact think that he would start on our team. I don't however think Bo is going to promise him anything. Interesting.

 

[huskerscott]

I dont think that it has to do with nobody having confidence. I think it is moreso that Bo would like an experienced kid that can give Carnes another year to work. Think about it fellas, we have a new offense this year so it isn't like he would be that much behind anyone. Only person he would really be behind in grasping the offense is Carnes. Definitely not T-Magic.

He wont come in here to ride the bench.. If he is coming, he is only coming to start.

Very true. I do in fact think that he would start on our team. I don't however think Bo is going to promise him anything. Interesting.

CFB live basically said this so if he does come to Nebraska......... oh wow.

 

[Saunders]

I dont think that it has to do with nobody having confidence. I think it is moreso that Bo would like an experienced kid that can give Carnes another year to work. Think about it fellas, we have a new offense this year so it isn't like he would be that much behind anyone. Only person he would really be behind in grasping the offense is Carnes. Definitely not T-Magic.

Um, what? Taylor has vastly superior knowledge of the offense. Carnes is still struggling, and that's straight from Bo.

 

[knapplc]

Um, what? Taylor has vastly superior knowledge of the offense. Carnes is still struggling, and that's straight from Bo.

No, he doesn't. I mean, yes, it is the offense he ran in High School, and yes they did win a state championship in California's top division, and yes he did throw for over 3,000 yards and 28 touchdowns and ran for another 750 yards and 12 TDs, but aside from all that, he doesn't know this offense from a hill of beans.

 

[Saunders]

i guess i dont recall singling you out? never once did i say "huskerscott", i replied to you in that post because you replied to my post not to try to single you out.
you are correct the issues that you have with martinez are shared with the minority of the board. however, those of you whom do feel that way base it off of issues that you have no direct knowledge of. it is just a bunch of conspiracy theories when it was obvious to everyone else that martinez played hurt but that is commonly pushed to the side as rubbish to some on this board and only this board.

i just hope that when he proves some of you wrong by the end of his career that you are here to eat some crow, because if i am wrong i will certainly be here to do the same.

So Martinez did exactly the same thing Lee did the year prior. He lit up the competition early on in the year, got hurt and had a crappy finish to the season. I didn't see Lee starting the following year. Not sure why everyone is so confident Martinez will be this year. A scout team WR unseated Lee - Martinez has some legitimate competition behind him. Not saying it will happen - but I personally can't see how as the 2010 season fades away, people's confidence in Martinez continues to grow and grow. This same thread would have had a very different tone to it in January. What's changed that makes everyone so much more confident today?

Not at all. Lee looked good against the sunbelt and had one decent quarter against Mizzou, but even then, there were obvious bad signs. He did nothing against the BCS schools. Nothing. He was in the system for his 3rd year, and couldn't get it done against anyone. Lee was Watson's boy, and he should have been ready.

Taylor lit it up against some opponents and struggled against others, then he got injured. It's pretty much a given that he would struggle, like every freshman QB does. He set records, led the team to 2 top #15 wins, and showed promise. And he did it all in a shoehorned offense that was brand new to just about every, run by an OC who didn't understand it, or want him starting.

It all boils down to if you think Taylor has hit his ceiling as a freshman, and will never get better. I think he can improve.

 

[Minnesota_husker]

Um, what? Taylor has vastly superior knowledge of the offense. Carnes is still struggling, and that's straight from Bo.

No, he doesn't. I mean, yes, it is the offense he ran in High School, and yes they did win a state championship in California's top division, and yes he did throw for over 3,000 yards and 28 touchdowns and ran for another 750 yards and 12 TDs, but aside from all that, he doesn't know this offense from a hill of beans.

I see what you did there...

I think it is really easy to figure out how T-mart will do

T-magic=healthy=awesome

T-magic=injured=crappy.

Healthy he is great.

 

[Saunders]

Um, what? Taylor has vastly superior knowledge of the offense. Carnes is still struggling, and that's straight from Bo.

No, he doesn't. I mean, yes, it is the offense he ran in High School, and yes they did win a state championship in California's top division, and yes he did throw for over 3,000 yards and 28 touchdowns and ran for another 750 yards and 12 TDs, but aside from all that, he doesn't know this offense from a hill of beans.

:clap

 

[huskerscott]

i guess i dont recall singling you out? never once did i say "huskerscott", i replied to you in that post because you replied to my post not to try to single you out.
you are correct the issues that you have with martinez are shared with the minority of the board. however, those of you whom do feel that way base it off of issues that you have no direct knowledge of. it is just a bunch of conspiracy theories when it was obvious to everyone else that martinez played hurt but that is commonly pushed to the side as rubbish to some on this board and only this board.

i just hope that when he proves some of you wrong by the end of his career that you are here to eat some crow, because if i am wrong i will certainly be here to do the same.

So Martinez did exactly the same thing Lee did the year prior. He lit up the competition early on in the year, got hurt and had a crappy finish to the season. I didn't see Lee starting the following year. Not sure why everyone is so confident Martinez will be this year. A scout team WR unseated Lee - Martinez has some legitimate competition behind him. Not saying it will happen - but I personally can't see how as the 2010 season fades away, people's confidence in Martinez continues to grow and grow. This same thread would have had a very different tone to it in January. What's changed that makes everyone so much more confident today?

Not at all. Lee looked good against the sunbelt and had one decent quarter against Mizzou, but even then, there were obvious bad signs. He did nothing against the BCS schools. Nothing. He was in the system for his 3rd year, and couldn't get it done against anyone. Lee was Watson's boy, and he should have been ready.

Taylor lit it up against some opponents and struggled against others, then he got injured. It's pretty much a given that he would struggle, like every freshman QB does. He set records, led the team to 2 top #15 wins, and showed promise. And he did it all in a shoehorned offense that was brand new to just about every, run by an OC who didn't understand it, or want him starting.

It all boils down to if you think Taylor has hit his ceiling as a freshman, and will never get better. I think he can improve.

Here we go again...... you saying their werent bad signs against srubs we faced before conference season with Taylor as the QB.

Lee did what he was asked during the 2009 season, nothing more nothing less.

 

[knapplc]

I think it is really easy to figure out how T-mart will do

T-magic=healthy=awesome

T-magic=injured=crappy.

Healthy he is great.

We'll see. I hope so, and I anticipate a better Taylor this year than last year, but caveat, caveat, caveat, blah blah blah. You never know.

I want to see what he can do healthy all year.

 

[Enhance]

He wont come in here to ride the bench.. If he is coming, he is only coming to start.

Exactly, which is why he won't be coming here.

Look at it from his situation, guys. The only reason he would come here is if the coaches had little to no respect for Martinez, Green, Carnes and what they bring to the table. I whole-heartedly doubt they'd bring in a guy that could legitimately supplant Martinez for the job - a guy with no knowledge of the offense and a slew of other guys who I think (with the exception of Green) are more athletic than Wilson. Sure, you could debate that the coaches don't have a lot of confidence in Martinez/Green and they want Carnes to get comfortable with the playbook, but is that really reason enough to bring in a guy to start over the former Big 12 Offensive Freshman of the Year?

He'll come here to play or he's not coming, as Minnesota_husker said, and the current situation tells me that he doesn't have much of a shot to start here for one year and be of any use.

Furthermore, in an article on ESPN today in the college football section, they said some of the schools looking at Wilson are SEC schools like Auburn. Also, one reason Wilson was released from NC State was because of his coaches inability to accept Wilson's football AND baseball career at the university.

If I'm Wilson, I'm going to place that I won't have to fight hard to get the starting job. He'd have a rough go of things here.

 

[Saunders]

i guess i dont recall singling you out? never once did i say "huskerscott", i replied to you in that post because you replied to my post not to try to single you out.
you are correct the issues that you have with martinez are shared with the minority of the board. however, those of you whom do feel that way base it off of issues that you have no direct knowledge of. it is just a bunch of conspiracy theories when it was obvious to everyone else that martinez played hurt but that is commonly pushed to the side as rubbish to some on this board and only this board.

i just hope that when he proves some of you wrong by the end of his career that you are here to eat some crow, because if i am wrong i will certainly be here to do the same.

So Martinez did exactly the same thing Lee did the year prior. He lit up the competition early on in the year, got hurt and had a crappy finish to the season. I didn't see Lee starting the following year. Not sure why everyone is so confident Martinez will be this year. A scout team WR unseated Lee - Martinez has some legitimate competition behind him. Not saying it will happen - but I personally can't see how as the 2010 season fades away, people's confidence in Martinez continues to grow and grow. This same thread would have had a very different tone to it in January. What's changed that makes everyone so much more confident today?

Not at all. Lee looked good against the sunbelt and had one decent quarter against Mizzou, but even then, there were obvious bad signs. He did nothing against the BCS schools. Nothing. He was in the system for his 3rd year, and couldn't get it done against anyone. Lee was Watson's boy, and he should have been ready.

Taylor lit it up against some opponents and struggled against others, then he got injured. It's pretty much a given that he would struggle, like every freshman QB does. He set records, led the team to 2 top #15 wins, and showed promise. And he did it all in a shoehorned offense that was brand new to just about every, run by an OC who didn't understand it, or want him starting.

It all boils down to if you think Taylor has hit his ceiling as a freshman, and will never get better. I think he can improve.

Here we go again...... you saying their werent bad signs against srubs we faced before conference season with Taylor as the QB.

Lee did what he was asked during the 2009 season, nothing more nothing less.

I did not say that at all. Certainly Taylor had issues, even against the scrubs. But there's a gigantic difference between a redshirt frosh who hadn't even been QB for a year, and a 4th year Junior who was very successful in JUCO, had been in the system for more than 2 years, and plain out sucked against everyone with a pulse. Lee didn't "do what he was asked." The offense had to be dumbed down because he couldn't do anything.