Doc more highly regarded by other B12 teams than NU

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A&M talk shows Doc is valuedBy Lee Barfknecht WORLD-HERALD STAFF WRITER

The fifth-year Husker basketball coach — who, according to Internet brain surgeons, will never succeed — likely will be a part of Texas A&M’s search for a new coach after this week’s departure of Mark Turgeon to Maryland.

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Doubters will wonder why a program such as Texas A&M that has played in six straight NCAA tournaments and pays its coach $1.5 million a year and has arguably the nation’s best practice facility would want Sadler and his 30-50 Big 12 record. It’s for the same reason Sadler got attention earlier this spring from Texas Tech and two years ago at Auburn and before that at Oklahoma and other BCS schools. Those in the know realize how difficult the job is at Nebraska, and how Sadler has tackled it.

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I've noticed that Doc is more highly regarded by fans of other B12 teams than our own NU fans. I guess some B12 ADs have a mancrush on Doc too. Or at least Dollar Bill Byrne does.

 
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I wish people would understand this. It's one of those deals where if you're too close to the situation you aren't seeing the big picture. Nebraska is a horrible job to have and I think people underestimate that. Other folks know that, which leads them to appreciate the job Doc is doing. I think the problem is people look at Danny Nee's success and think Doc should be able to do the same without problem, but they forget two things: the recruiting game has changed, and Doc appears to be doing things a little more "right" than Danny. When people talk about NU's "glory years" they seldom bring up the baggage that Nee carried around.

By this point, I think even if UNC and Duke were fighting over Doc there are many NU fans that would still claim he's a bad coach. Haters gonna hate, I guess.

 
bball_backer said:
I wish people would understand this. It's one of those deals where if you're too close to the situation you aren't seeing the big picture. Nebraska is a horrible job to have and I think people underestimate that. Other folks know that, which leads them to appreciate the job Doc is doing. I think the problem is people look at Danny Nee's success and think Doc should be able to do the same without problem, but they forget two things: the recruiting game has changed, and Doc appears to be doing things a little more "right" than Danny. When people talk about NU's "glory years" they seldom bring up the baggage that Nee carried around.

By this point, I think even if UNC and Duke were fighting over Doc there are many NU fans that would still claim he's a bad coach. Haters gonna hate, I guess.
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Agree, except I wouldn't go so far to say NU is a *horrible* job. Sure, we have years where we struggle. But even this past season we showed flashes of greatness. Just ask Texas. And OU. Plus, it's a head coaching job in a major conference. Which are hard to come by.

 
nuance said:
bball_backer said:
I wish people would understand this. It's one of those deals where if you're too close to the situation you aren't seeing the big picture. Nebraska is a horrible job to have and I think people underestimate that. Other folks know that, which leads them to appreciate the job Doc is doing. I think the problem is people look at Danny Nee's success and think Doc should be able to do the same without problem, but they forget two things: the recruiting game has changed, and Doc appears to be doing things a little more "right" than Danny. When people talk about NU's "glory years" they seldom bring up the baggage that Nee carried around.

By this point, I think even if UNC and Duke were fighting over Doc there are many NU fans that would still claim he's a bad coach. Haters gonna hate, I guess.
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Agree, except I wouldn't go so far to say NU is a *horrible* job. Sure, we have years where we struggle. But even this past season we showed flashes of greatness. Just ask Texas. And OU. Plus, it's a head coaching job in a major conference. Which are hard to come by.
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You're correct, I was being a little harsh when I said horrible. Bad or difficult would probably better describe it.

 
bball_backer said:
nuance said:
bball_backer said:
I wish people would understand this. It's one of those deals where if you're too close to the situation you aren't seeing the big picture. Nebraska is a horrible job to have and I think people underestimate that. Other folks know that, which leads them to appreciate the job Doc is doing. I think the problem is people look at Danny Nee's success and think Doc should be able to do the same without problem, but they forget two things: the recruiting game has changed, and Doc appears to be doing things a little more "right" than Danny. When people talk about NU's "glory years" they seldom bring up the baggage that Nee carried around.

By this point, I think even if UNC and Duke were fighting over Doc there are many NU fans that would still claim he's a bad coach. Haters gonna hate, I guess.
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Agree, except I wouldn't go so far to say NU is a *horrible* job. Sure, we have years where we struggle. But even this past season we showed flashes of greatness. Just ask Texas. And OU. Plus, it's a head coaching job in a major conference. Which are hard to come by.
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You're correct, I was being a little harsh when I said horrible. Bad or difficult would probably better describe it.
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We just need about 3 great recruits to turn things around and get to the next level. Also, if I could just pick 3 more winning numbers on that MegaMillions card I'd be sitting pretty. :lol:

 
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bball, I think its fair to say it is easily on of the worst BCS confernce jobs and I think behind a number of mid majors. However the new arena and practice facilities should help raise that.

Other teams/people value Doc because he appears to be a stand up guy doing it the right way. He fields competitive teams and his kids play hard and his system is effective. People look at all the disadvantages of coaching at Nebraska and what he is able to do, then they imagine him having their resources and players and how much better that would make his teams.

Pretty bluntly, if he can be competitive with afterthought players, at a school where his sport and team are an afterthought. Then given a school that cares, with the structure and support of a Ath. Dept. that wants to win at MBB, and a school that kids would have a desire to play at, then he should do well. (Nebraska is atleast on the path to being in the game by building the new facilities. It will put them on par or slightly above for major BCS schools and is definatly a big step in the right direction)

I know that if Doc had Missouri's kids and coach Anderson would have had Doc's kids that Missouri under Doc would have destroyed coach Anderson by 20-30 pts everytime they played. Doc can coach, and i think he is MUCH better coach than Mike Anderson is.

 
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fro daddy said:
bball, I think its fair to say it is easily on of the worst BCS confernce jobs and I think behind a number of mid majors. However the new arena and practice facilities should help raise that.

Other teams/people value Doc because he appears to be a stand up guy doing it the right way. He fields competitive teams and his kids play hard and his system is effective. People look at all the disadvantages of coaching at Nebraska and what he is able to do, then they imagine him having their resources and players and how much better that would make his teams.

Pretty bluntly, if he can be competitive with afterthought players, at a school where his sport and team are an afterthought. Then given a school that cares, with the structure and support of a Ath. Dept. that wants to win at MBB, and a school that kids would have a desire to play at, then he should do well. (Nebraska is atleast on the path to being in the game by building the new facilities. It will put them on par or slightly above for major BCS schools and is definatly a big step in the right direction)

I know that if Doc had Missouri's kids and coach Anderson would have had Doc's kids that Missouri under Doc would have destroyed coach Anderson by 20-30 pts everytime they played. Doc can coach, and i think he is MUCH better coach than Mike Anderson is.
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AMEN! Great post, but good luck getting most NU fans to believe it...

 
I'm happy with Doc. He has been a solid coach and we've had some success under him. You also can't ignore the fact that there is a reason he's getting his name thrown around for other jobs.

 
Lil said:
I'm happy with Doc. He has been a solid coach and we've had some success under him. You also can't ignore the fact that there is a reason he's getting his name thrown around for other jobs.
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Agreed.

Looks like the coach from Murray St is taking the aTm job. LINK

 
bball_backer said:
I wish people would understand this. It's one of those deals where if you're too close to the situation you aren't seeing the big picture. Nebraska is a horrible job to have and I think people underestimate that. Other folks know that, which leads them to appreciate the job Doc is doing. I think the problem is people look at Danny Nee's success and think Doc should be able to do the same without problem, but they forget two things: the recruiting game has changed, and Doc appears to be doing things a little more "right" than Danny. When people talk about NU's "glory years" they seldom bring up the baggage that Nee carried around.

By this point, I think even if UNC and Duke were fighting over Doc there are many NU fans that would still claim he's a bad coach. Haters gonna hate, I guess.
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I wouldn't argue that NU isn't glamorous place to coach but it most definitely is a step up from being an assistant. I could understand why a head coach wouldnt want to come here, but I dont see why we shouldnt pursue one of those "hot" assistant coaches out there.

 
Amen to all of that- Doc posted some pics of him and Bo on his Facebook, while they are golfing Augusta- I wish I was smart enough to post them

 
What is the possibility of what happened to K-state, with Huggins and them turning into a B12 power, happening at NU?

 
gbr93 said:
What is the possibility of what happened to K-state, with Huggins and them turning into a B12 power, happening at NU?
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what happened at KSU is not common. A coach who was without a team, but planning on returning to the NCAA the next year was able to illegally recruit top players for nearly 18 months. Only it wasnt illegal, because he wasnt with a team or in discussions with a team. He was just a guy talking to kids. No connection to the NCAA what-so-ever. Then that said coach who had built those relationships with those kids gets a job. the kids commit to his school. Then that coach hires two top AAU coaches with connections to the top players in the next 2 years classes. Those assistants had no NCAA experiance prior. Those AAU coaches sign there top players to their new school.

That my friend is KSU. A team that has now lost every top player they got through those sketchy moves and is left to recruit on their own NCAA santioned morals. And the two people most often given credit for the players and turnaround are no gone. No huggie bear and no delonte hill.

KSU is what you call a NCAA loop hole and dont be surprised to see them slid back over the next few years

 
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