Iowa game

[bigg10]

No, I am sure the program is different. But from a fan pressure stand point, I think there is less pressure over here than there. Makes sence, Iowas comfortable with KF and company at the helm, where as Nebraska is still waiting to see what Bo and company can do and that expectation has gone up going into the B10, with all new teams, new coaches and such. I am just saying Bo has alot on his plate, both for him and his staff and for the team. It has been brought to my attention, that Bo MIGHT get a little wound tight in pressure situations.

You are doing a LOT of projecting here. I could just as easily say that Kirk Ferentz is all stressed out because he hasn't won the Big Ten in six years and that Iowa fans are all stressed out because they now have to play Nebraska every year, a team that has dominated them over the years.

There are 1,000 theories about this season that you could put forth. None of them are more accurate than any other. I can tell you that in the last couple of interactions I've had with Bo he's been very relaxed, joking around, not stressed at all, so from my purely anecdotal experience, your theory that he's under more stress doesn't hold up.

I dont think KF gets to rattled. As for playing you instead of Wiskey every year, I have thought long and hard about that one. I could not for the life of me see why they would ruin the Wiskey/Iowa game, (ranked 5th on BTN as rivalries and is one of the oldest), even with Nebraska coming in. You would not like, the only reason I could possibly come up with, so I will keep it to myself. As for stress about winning B10 or what ever, I do think you could be right, the fans want more, KF wants more. But we also realize like last year when Iowa was part of the NC talk (all be it short lived), the reasons they did not do all that well are a bit out of KF's hands. His coaching and recruiting are up there with the best and we know this. KF has graduated many classes now and every year does pretty well (except a season here or there). I think he is a dash away from the perfect reciepe. Will he ever find it? Well thats a different argument. Hows the old saying go, cook with the wine you would drink. Hard to make a perfect meal when your only able to get boones farm. As an Iowa fan I hate to say that, but it's true. Nobody does more with less than KF. The good side is, Iowa is hoping even if KF does not get a NC, he will have continued to add up the W's and put kids into the NFL, hoping it pays off with a better selection of recruits, even if it's down the road and maybe only realized under another coach. Yes he knows how to pick them and he has proven he knows what he is doing to put them into the NFL, but it would be a little easier if they were knocking on your door, if ya know what I mean. So any which way, KF has a legacy already and that takes some pressure off. He is quite possibly the best to ever come out of the 80's and 90's Iowa era, and that says alot. I think mabey Bo was part of that, so was Stoops and so was Bielema. Just off the top of my head.

The 80's and 90's Iowa has point blank put out some of the best coaches out there. Infact you could argue, better than any other school in the nation.

 

[walksalone]

No, I am sure the program is different. But from a fan pressure stand point, I think there is less pressure over here than there. Makes sence, Iowas comfortable with KF and company at the helm, where as Nebraska is still waiting to see what Bo and company can do and that expectation has gone up going into the B10, with all new teams, new coaches and such. I am just saying Bo has alot on his plate, both for him and his staff and for the team. It has been brought to my attention, that Bo MIGHT get a little wound tight in pressure situations.

You are doing a LOT of projecting here. I could just as easily say that Kirk Ferentz is all stressed out because he hasn't won the Big Ten in six years and that Iowa fans are all stressed out because they now have to play Nebraska every year, a team that has dominated them over the years.

There are 1,000 theories about this season that you could put forth. None of them are more accurate than any other. I can tell you that in the last couple of interactions I've had with Bo he's been very relaxed, joking around, not stressed at all, so from my purely anecdotal experience, your theory that he's under more stress doesn't hold up.

I dont think KF gets to rattled. As for playing you instead of Wiskey every year, I have thought long and hard about that one. I could not for the life of me see why they would ruin the Wiskey/Iowa game, (ranked 5th on BTN as rivalries and is one of the oldest), even with Nebraska coming in. You would not like, the only reason I could possibly come up with, so I will keep it to myself. As for stress about winning B10 or what ever, I do think you could be right, the fans want more, KF wants more. But we also realize like last year when Iowa was part of the NC talk (all be it short lived), the reasons they did not do all that well are a bit out of KF's hands. His coaching and recruiting are up there with the best and we know this. KF has graduated many classes now and every year does pretty well (except a season here or there). I think he is a dash away from the perfect reciepe. Will he ever find it? Well thats a different argument. Hows the old saying go, cook with the wine you would drink. Hard to make a perfect meal when your only able to get boones farm. As an Iowa fan I hate to say that, but it's true. Nobody does more with less than KF. The good side is, Iowa is hoping even if KF does not get a NC, he will have continued to add up the W's and put kids into the NFL, hoping it pays off with a better selection of recruits, even if it's down the road and maybe only realized under another coach. Yes he knows how to pick them and he has proven he knows what he is doing to put them into the NFL, but it would be a little easier if they were knocking on your door, if ya know what I mean. So any which way, KF has a legacy already and that takes some pressure off. He is quite possibly the best to ever come out of the 80's and 90's Iowa era, and that says alot. I think mabey Bo was part of that, so was Stoops and so was Bielema. Just off the top of my head.

The 80's and 90's Iowa has point blank put out some of the best coaches out there. Infact you could argue, better than any other school in the nation.

I'm not so sure if it's KF getting rattled, but KF continuing to win enough to keep his job. KF may have more pressure on him, because he has to beat a couple very good teams to get to the newly frocked CCG.

 

[Hercules]

1. The pressure the fans put on Bo is nothing compared to the pressure he puts on himself. Going into this season, we basically expect him to wield a fantastic defense (which I'm sure he also expects), and we are all in wait-and-see mode with the offense. I'm guessing Bo has higher expectations for the offense than most fans do. That's a good thing, that's what makes him a great coach.

2. If you want to talk about "pressure," you have to realize that this season is nothing compared to last season for Nebraska. It was our last run at the Big 12, our last run at Texas, our last run at Oklahoma and the Big 12 title. THAT was pressure. Not playing Iowa for the first time in what is going to be a very long series, or going through a tough Big 10 schedule. This season is going to be stress-free and fun compared to last year.

3. None of these theories you've thrown out have that much to do with winning a football game. The game will be won by the team with a better gameplan, or better execution, or better talent. Not by the team who is less stressed out by the burdensome pressures of winning a division that hasn't existed before this year.

 

[Joe_5700]

If by score, you mean like a sailor on leave in Bangkok. I agree. Football 101: Make a team one dimensional. Bo knows. Iowas line will most likely be the best in the B10 this year, have one heck of a RB, got a cannon thats been seasoned about the right amount of time, got some good big recievers, the recipe is starting to look real good now.

If you guys scored more than 20, I'd be shocked...

With a more than likely top 25 D, or more. I'll take those odds. I can't see how the O AND the D are not both ranked fairly high next year. Now this said injuries play a big role. But thats the same for all teams that have people that are just "that" good. I mean Iowa has proven for YEARS they can take a 3 or 4th string RB and still win. Look at when they played LSU, they had the worst running record in their history that year. But they won. Oh and I'll be nice and say that against top 25 teams you played last year you were 2-2. I would also say that to put it into perspective, Nebraskas D was like 10th or so (cant recall off hand) last year, and Iowas was 15th. What I am saying if Iowas D slides to much past 20th this year, I would be shocked, and the O should be close to what Wiskeys was last year (dont know off hand what their O ranked, but I think it was up there) . Again I say I like the recipe.

With a new QB?

 

[walksalone]

If by score, you mean like a sailor on leave in Bangkok. I agree. Football 101: Make a team one dimensional. Bo knows. Iowas line will most likely be the best in the B10 this year, have one heck of a RB, got a cannon thats been seasoned about the right amount of time, got some good big recievers, the recipe is starting to look real good now.

If you guys scored more than 20, I'd be shocked...

With a more than likely top 25 D, or more. I'll take those odds. I can't see how the O AND the D are not both ranked fairly high next year. Now this said injuries play a big role. But thats the same for all teams that have people that are just "that" good. I mean Iowa has proven for YEARS they can take a 3 or 4th string RB and still win. Look at when they played LSU, they had the worst running record in their history that year. But they won. Oh and I'll be nice and say that against top 25 teams you played last year you were 2-2. I would also say that to put it into perspective, Nebraskas D was like 10th or so (cant recall off hand) last year, and Iowas was 15th. What I am saying if Iowas D slides to much past 20th this year, I would be shocked, and the O should be close to what Wiskeys was last year (dont know off hand what their O ranked, but I think it was up there) . Again I say I like the recipe.

With a new QB?

As previously stated, if they score more than 20, i'll get waxed

 

[bigg10]

1. The pressure the fans put on Bo is nothing compared to the pressure he puts on himself. Going into this season, we basically expect him to wield a fantastic defense (which I'm sure he also expects), and we are all in wait-and-see mode with the offense. I'm guessing Bo has higher expectations for the offense than most fans do. That's a good thing, that's what makes him a great coach.

2. If you want to talk about "pressure," you have to realize that this season is nothing compared to last season for Nebraska. It was our last run at the Big 12, our last run at Texas, our last run at Oklahoma and the Big 12 title. THAT was pressure. Not playing Iowa for the first time in what is going to be a very long series, or going through a tough Big 10 schedule. This season is going to be stress-free and fun compared to last year.

3. None of these theories you've thrown out have that much to do with winning a football game. The game will be won by the team with a better gameplan, or better execution, or better talent. Not by the team who is less stressed out by the burdensome pressures of winning a division that hasn't existed before this year.

You got me on point 2.

 

[bigg10]

If by score, you mean like a sailor on leave in Bangkok. I agree. Football 101: Make a team one dimensional. Bo knows. Iowas line will most likely be the best in the B10 this year, have one heck of a RB, got a cannon thats been seasoned about the right amount of time, got some good big recievers, the recipe is starting to look real good now.

If you guys scored more than 20, I'd be shocked...

With a more than likely top 25 D, or more. I'll take those odds. I can't see how the O AND the D are not both ranked fairly high next year. Now this said injuries play a big role. But thats the same for all teams that have people that are just "that" good. I mean Iowa has proven for YEARS they can take a 3 or 4th string RB and still win. Look at when they played LSU, they had the worst running record in their history that year. But they won. Oh and I'll be nice and say that against top 25 teams you played last year you were 2-2. I would also say that to put it into perspective, Nebraskas D was like 10th or so (cant recall off hand) last year, and Iowas was 15th. What I am saying if Iowas D slides to much past 20th this year, I would be shocked, and the O should be close to what Wiskeys was last year (dont know off hand what their O ranked, but I think it was up there) . Again I say I like the recipe.

With a new QB?

Very likely a better qb.

 

[Hercules]

If by score, you mean like a sailor on leave in Bangkok. I agree. Football 101: Make a team one dimensional. Bo knows. Iowas line will most likely be the best in the B10 this year, have one heck of a RB, got a cannon thats been seasoned about the right amount of time, got some good big recievers, the recipe is starting to look real good now.

If you guys scored more than 20, I'd be shocked...

With a more than likely top 25 D, or more. I'll take those odds. I can't see how the O AND the D are not both ranked fairly high next year. Now this said injuries play a big role. But thats the same for all teams that have people that are just "that" good. I mean Iowa has proven for YEARS they can take a 3 or 4th string RB and still win. Look at when they played LSU, they had the worst running record in their history that year. But they won. Oh and I'll be nice and say that against top 25 teams you played last year you were 2-2. I would also say that to put it into perspective, Nebraskas D was like 10th or so (cant recall off hand) last year, and Iowas was 15th. What I am saying if Iowas D slides to much past 20th this year, I would be shocked, and the O should be close to what Wiskeys was last year (dont know off hand what their O ranked, but I think it was up there) . Again I say I like the recipe.

With a new QB?

Very likely a better qb.

This is the kind of thing most of us will believe when we see it. Just like we're in wait-and-see mode about Nebraska's offense, nobody here is going to believe that Iowa's new QB is better than Stanzi until he goes out on the field and proves it.

 

[knapplc]

As previously stated, if they score more than 20, i'll get waxed

Thank God I never took that job offer at The Brazilian.

 

[Joe_5700]

If by score, you mean like a sailor on leave in Bangkok. I agree. Football 101: Make a team one dimensional. Bo knows. Iowas line will most likely be the best in the B10 this year, have one heck of a RB, got a cannon thats been seasoned about the right amount of time, got some good big recievers, the recipe is starting to look real good now.

If you guys scored more than 20, I'd be shocked...

With a more than likely top 25 D, or more. I'll take those odds. I can't see how the O AND the D are not both ranked fairly high next year. Now this said injuries play a big role. But thats the same for all teams that have people that are just "that" good. I mean Iowa has proven for YEARS they can take a 3 or 4th string RB and still win. Look at when they played LSU, they had the worst running record in their history that year. But they won. Oh and I'll be nice and say that against top 25 teams you played last year you were 2-2. I would also say that to put it into perspective, Nebraskas D was like 10th or so (cant recall off hand) last year, and Iowas was 15th. What I am saying if Iowas D slides to much past 20th this year, I would be shocked, and the O should be close to what Wiskeys was last year (dont know off hand what their O ranked, but I think it was up there) . Again I say I like the recipe.

With a new QB?

Very likely a better qb.

So KF benched this kid and played Stanzi just to piss you off? Am I understanding this correctly,? Are you a better evaluator of talent than the entire Hawkeye coaching staff?

 

[Saunders]

bo knows how to stop the run, look at LSU's defense when he was running it. they were the top in the nation and shut down everyone they played, in what is honetsly at tougher conference from top to bottom then the big ten or the big 12 either one is. bo will have another top defense at nebraska again, possibly the best in the country if the team isnt plauged with injuries. the defense will be solid, as everyone knows it will be the offense that will be a question mark this year.

Bo was at LSU from 05 to 07. 05 Iowa played LSU in the cap one bowl. Iowa beat LSU 30-25 in a bomb from Tate with time running out to win the game. That was that receivers only TD at Iowa. One of the best finishes in a B10 bowl ever. Iowa also had it's worst season ever rushing avg like 75 yards per game or something that year. I'll give credit, we got lucky. But we were in that ball game the whole time, even thou we were huge under dogs and we were not held to under 20. Tate picked apart LSU's secondary.

I know this has nothing to do with now or Nebraska, I just love that game. Bo and KF have met, but now it's a little different.

BO wasn't at LSU for that game. He was still coaching at Oklahoma. The cap one bowl was played on 1/1/2005, and the LSU DC was Will Muschamp. Bo becamse LSU DC after HC Nick Saban left for Miami and Les Miles was hired from Oklahoma State.

P.S. I just watched this on the BTN about 2 weeks ago, so it's fresh in the memory.

 

[knapplc]

With a new QB?

Very likely a better qb.

See, I can play this game, too. We have a better everything to replace everyone we lost. We have a better:

RB to replace Helu

WR to replace Paul

WR to replace McNeill

OG to replace Williams

OG to replace Henry

OT to replace Jones

PK to replace Henery

On defense we have a better:

DE to replace Allen

CB to replace Hagg

CB to replace Amukamara

SS to replace Thenarse

FS to replace Gomes

Everyone at every position we lost is being replaced by a better player. No, I don't have stats to prove anything, nor do I have film or plays as examples or games in general to point to, but you have to believe me that they're all better. Why? Because.

See? This is an easy game to play.

But the fact is, we're not going to replace Amukamara, Hagg or Gomes on defense. Those guys were all-world. Sure, the new guys will be good, but realistically will they be as good? Couldn't tell you.

Nor can I tell you that Burkhead is going to surpass Helu, or that any of our O Line youngsters are going to be better than Williams, Henry or Jones. Nor can I tell you that we're ever going to find a better kicker than Henery. Actually, scratch that - we will never find a better kicker than Henery. Bad example.

But this whole assertion that Vandenberg is going to be better than Ricky Stanzi.... well, you're just going to have to accept the fact that none of us are buying what you're selling. We'll pretend we're from Missouri on this one - Show Me.

 

[kchusker_chris]

:yeah :box

 

[bshirt]

No, I am sure the program is different. But from a fan pressure stand point, I think there is less pressure over here than there. Makes sence, Iowas comfortable with KF and company at the helm, where as Nebraska is still waiting to see what Bo and company can do and that expectation has gone up going into the B10, with all new teams, new coaches and such. I am just saying Bo has alot on his plate, both for him and his staff and for the team. It has been brought to my attention, that Bo MIGHT get a little wound tight in pressure situations.

You are doing a LOT of projecting here. I could just as easily say that Kirk Ferentz is all stressed out because he hasn't won the Big Ten in six years and that Iowa fans are all stressed out because they now have to play Nebraska every year, a team that has dominated them over the years.

There are 1,000 theories about this season that you could put forth. None of them are more accurate than any other. I can tell you that in the last couple of interactions I've had with Bo he's been very relaxed, joking around, not stressed at all, so from my purely anecdotal experience, your theory that he's under more stress doesn't hold up.

I dont think KF gets to rattled. As for playing you instead of Wiskey every year, I have thought long and hard about that one. I could not for the life of me see why they would ruin the Wiskey/Iowa game, (ranked 5th on BTN as rivalries and is one of the oldest), even with Nebraska coming in. You would not like, the only reason I could possibly come up with, so I will keep it to myself. As for stress about winning B10 or what ever, I do think you could be right, the fans want more, KF wants more. But we also realize like last year when Iowa was part of the NC talk (all be it short lived), the reasons they did not do all that well are a bit out of KF's hands. His coaching and recruiting are up there with the best and we know this. KF has graduated many classes now and every year does pretty well (except a season here or there). I think he is a dash away from the perfect reciepe. Will he ever find it? Well thats a different argument. Hows the old saying go, cook with the wine you would drink. Hard to make a perfect meal when your only able to get boones farm. As an Iowa fan I hate to say that, but it's true. Nobody does more with less than KF. The good side is, Iowa is hoping even if KF does not get a NC, he will have continued to add up the W's and put kids into the NFL, hoping it pays off with a better selection of recruits, even if it's down the road and maybe only realized under another coach. Yes he knows how to pick them and he has proven he knows what he is doing to put them into the NFL, but it would be a little easier if they were knocking on your door, if ya know what I mean. So any which way, KF has a legacy already and that takes some pressure off. He is quite possibly the best to ever come out of the 80's and 90's Iowa era, and that says alot. I think mabey Bo was part of that, so was Stoops and so was Bielema. Just off the top of my head.

The 80's and 90's Iowa has point blank put out some of the best coaches out there. Infact you could argue, better than any other school in the nation.

So, Iowa was a dark horse NC contender and calmly delivered a 8 - 5 season?

Heh, Bo gets endless grief for losing four games last year (which includes the CCG....something Iowa didn't have to worry about)....maybe KF needs to get rattled a little more.

 

[bigg10]

If by score, you mean like a sailor on leave in Bangkok. I agree. Football 101: Make a team one dimensional. Bo knows. Iowas line will most likely be the best in the B10 this year, have one heck of a RB, got a cannon thats been seasoned about the right amount of time, got some good big recievers, the recipe is starting to look real good now.

If you guys scored more than 20, I'd be shocked...

With a more than likely top 25 D, or more. I'll take those odds. I can't see how the O AND the D are not both ranked fairly high next year. Now this said injuries play a big role. But thats the same for all teams that have people that are just "that" good. I mean Iowa has proven for YEARS they can take a 3 or 4th string RB and still win. Look at when they played LSU, they had the worst running record in their history that year. But they won. Oh and I'll be nice and say that against top 25 teams you played last year you were 2-2. I would also say that to put it into perspective, Nebraskas D was like 10th or so (cant recall off hand) last year, and Iowas was 15th. What I am saying if Iowas D slides to much past 20th this year, I would be shocked, and the O should be close to what Wiskeys was last year (dont know off hand what their O ranked, but I think it was up there) . Again I say I like the recipe.

With a new QB?

Very likely a better qb.

So KF benched this kid and played Stanzi just to piss you off? Am I understanding this correctly,? Are you a better evaluator of talent than the entire Hawkeye coaching staff?

KF knows this kid is good, he has said so. He more than likely likes his mechanics, size, mobility and arm strength better than Stanzi's. Stanzi was such a good student of the game, he was hard to beat out, because he was so dependable, there-by making him very good. Now from what I understand Vandy knew this and knew what needed to be done. He worked with coaches and absorbed as much as he could from Stanzi the past couple of years, on this part of the game. Some kids actually have the character to wait and learn (like Vandy) where others bolt for another team or go get free tats or whatever. Seems the one with character do better. Vandy may not come out of the box as good as Stanzi left it, but in the two years Vandy will be QB, he has all he needs to be far better than Stanzi. So he should be very good this year and very close to the top in the B10 next year. He is that good!