Shaun Prater on Nebraska

[bigg10]

I apologize for my ignorance towards this topic, so maybe Big Ten fans or Iowa fans can help me out: How good is this guy?

From reading through the comments, he sounds like a legit shut-down corner that we let get away sadly. But considering the time-frame and everything else, and the fact you don't always get the ones you want and they always don't turn out the way you want, it's understandable.

I think we may have had a shot at him, but he was Pelini probably got into the game too late [not his fault] and this guy was probably leaning Iowa the whole way, as we had our staff shake-up, and he already had his mind made up. Nothing wrong there.

Umm. Yes he is good. He was told he could of went 5th round this year, but came back to try and go higher. KF's spotting and developing talent is second to none. His brother would have been another Iowa sucess story as well but his grades made it so he had to go play at IWCC and was trying to get his grades up to come back but had an injury and with rehab and all ended up at Texas A&M-Kingsville.

 

[irieboy8]

the effects of BC are still being felt even after all this time.. that guy was like a bad acid trip and i should know!

 

[bigg10]

Wow. I would be unsettled if I were a Hawkeye fan listening to his comments about Callahan. Sounds to me like Prater is basically saying he wanted to come here but Callahan didn't give him the time of day, so he went to Iowa. Sounds like Nebraska would have been his first choice.

:steam Callahan. :steam :rickjames

Knapp, really? He was offered at Nebraska. First he said he wanted to play B10 ball and cally never offered but Bo did.

"Iowa paid attention. The Hawkeyes offered Shaun first after a summer camp, and later offered Shane, who committed, too. Bo Pelini — attempting to rebuild a recruiting class riddled with defections from Callahan's downfall — offered the twins after he took over."

Offered when? During Callahan's final year? I wouldn't have wished that on a dog, so I can see why he left. And if he didn't respond to Pelini, you can't blame the guy. Pelini was an unknown as a Head Coach, and going to a known commodity like KF would have been the safe move. Again, can't blame the guy.

But that doesn't mean he didn't want to play at Nebraska - just that the coaching situation here was FUBAR. I'm sure had Pelini been here the year before, things would have been different.

"Bo Pelini — attempting to rebuild a recruiting class riddled with defections from Callahan's downfall — offered the twins after he took over. Paul hosted Shaun on a late January visit to Lincoln. He liked it. There was a moment of pause, just two weeks before Signing Day, when he considered NU."

Yes I bet the coaching thing had alot to do with it, that and the fact Cally paid no attention to him or his brother even thou he had people in his ear telling him to.

 

[PaulCrewe]

Yes I bet the coaching thing had alot to do with it, that and the fact Cally paid no attention to him or his brother even thou he had people in his ear telling him to.

You boviously had no clue what was going on in Lincoln during the Dark Ages. Clownahan paid no attention to any one talking in his ear, well except his snuggle buddy Coz.

Key thing here, Shaun was committed to the Hawk for 6 months before Pelini entered the picture. And when Iowa offered Shane it iced the deal, all took place before the Pelini hired. And knapp raises good points about proven commodities.

And IMO Shaun probably would have been a nickel/ dime back last year while backing up Prince and Zo. Would be competing for the other corner slot this year. I have never been overly impressed. The kid has speed though and seems to have matured(obviously better than Shane) well. Still would have taken David Whitmore over Prater

 

[bigg10]

Yes I bet the coaching thing had alot to do with it, that and the fact Cally paid no attention to him or his brother even thou he had people in his ear telling him to.

You boviously had no clue what was going on in Lincoln during the Dark Ages. Clownahan paid no attention to any one talking in his ear, well except his snuggle buddy Coz.

Key thing here, Shaun was committed to the Hawk for 6 months before Pelini entered the picture. And when Iowa offered Shane it iced the deal, all took place before the Pelini hired. And knapp raises good points about proven commodities.

And IMO Shaun probably would have been a nickel/ dime back last year while backing up Prince and Zo. Would be competing for the other corner slot this year. I have never been overly impressed. The kid has speed though and seems to have matured(obviously better than Shane) well. Still would have taken David Whitmore over Prater

I am sure you are way more aware of your history than I am. But I know your LB coach at the time also didnt want him and was telling Cally that. I agree with the whole time frame and all, but he hadnt signed yet and he did think about Nebraska. Those kids came here to play ball, so I do know a thing or two about them. Not to mention I like to think I know alot about several B10 teams.

I dont get the whole better than Shane comment. Shane tore his acl (?????) I think. He is still playing ball, but wont ever do it in D1 ball again.

As for how good Shaun is, read what your old WR said. So what now you know better who is a better corner over a #5 drafted Niles Paul? Is that what you are trying to argue?

 

[Husker_x]

Wow. I would be unsettled if I were a Hawkeye fan listening to his comments about Callahan. Sounds to me like Prater is basically saying he wanted to come here but Callahan didn't give him the time of day, so he went to Iowa. Sounds like Nebraska would have been his first choice.

:steam Callahan. :steam :rickjames

Knapp, really? He was offered at Nebraska. First he said he wanted to play B10 ball. Then cally never offered. But Bo did.

"Iowa paid attention. The Hawkeyes offered Shaun first after a summer camp, and later offered Shane, who committed, too. Bo Pelini — attempting to rebuild a recruiting class riddled with defections from Callahan's downfall — offered the twins after he took over."

When you're a young man making one of the toughest decisions of your life, and you don't have the benefit of a crystal ball which features nightly highlight reels of Prince Amukamara, the smart money is on the established coach with a team that has a consistently stout defense. Too bad for Nebraska. He's a year younger and he probably ends up in scarlet and cream.

 

[bigg10]

Wow. I would be unsettled if I were a Hawkeye fan listening to his comments about Callahan. Sounds to me like Prater is basically saying he wanted to come here but Callahan didn't give him the time of day, so he went to Iowa. Sounds like Nebraska would have been his first choice.

:steam Callahan. :steam :rickjames

Knapp, really? He was offered at Nebraska. First he said he wanted to play B10 ball. Then cally never offered. But Bo did.

"Iowa paid attention. The Hawkeyes offered Shaun first after a summer camp, and later offered Shane, who committed, too. Bo Pelini — attempting to rebuild a recruiting class riddled with defections from Callahan's downfall — offered the twins after he took over."

When you're a young man making one of the toughest decisions of your life, and you don't have the benefit of a crystal ball which features nightly highlight reels of Prince Amukamara, the smart money is on the established coach with a team that has a consistently stout defense. Too bad for Nebraska. He's a year younger and he probably ends up in scarlet and cream.

As well as should be. Like I said all fans want instate kids to stay.

This is not my first rodeo. I have had these types of conversations with other teams fans. No body offered and they came here and were developed into NFL players. The standing joke in Iowa is, why do all the other teams coaches follow KF around???? Was'nt Shonn Greene a two star? He went what 3rd Rnd (3rd round for a RB!!) to the Jets? Like I said KF can not only spot them, he can send them to the next level.

 

[HUSKER 37]

Tis the recruiting business. Shaun committed in June before his senior season. Wild Bill never got to see Signing Day as we know and whether Bo would have had a chance after Shaun had been committed to the Hawks for so long.

NU signed three corners(primary position) in that class. One is a pretty damn good one about to finish his career(Dennard). The other two many of us thought could turn out to be pretty good themselves but fell off the face of the earth(David Whitmore and Justin Rogers). Not sure what the corner depth was going into that cycle but Shaun also probably failed the Clownahan and Elmo eye test with his size coming out of Omaha Central.

You win some, and lose some. Remember NU also once decided to give a scholly to Johnny Rogers Jr over Barry Sanders. I'll take the Prater miss over that one most days.

Terry

(But I'm guessing you knew that)

And Solich was recruiting my nephew who grew up out here (AZ) but had a lifelong dream of playing for Nebraska..Went to a couple of camps..Was a two year starter at the largest highschool in the state and (supposedly) ran a 4.35 40..Ran for 900 yds his Sr season despite also starting half of the season at LB..Was willing to walk on since my Bro was an alum..and fumbled only once.

Sorry..just ranting about what could have been.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

Clownahan did not even know how to get to Omaha.

Personally I thought this was a great interview and the questions that were asked were great.

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

Billy C’s four recruiting classes included 14 in-state kids (04 – 5, 05 – 3, 06 – 4, 07 – 2).

Bo’s first four recruiting classes included 14 in-state kids (08 – 5, 09 – 2, 10 – 4, 11 – 3).

Maybe Billy C didn’t bring in as many in-state walk-ons but to say he didn’t sign in-state kids and then turn around and say Bo does is crazy. The facts don’t lie though because they signed the same amount of in-state kids.

FWIW: One of Bo’s signees was offered by our AD and another has a father on the staff.

 

[SuperBigFan69]

Billy C’s four recruiting classes included 14 in-state kids (04 – 5, 05 – 3, 06 – 4, 07 – 2).

Bo’s first four recruiting classes included 14 in-state kids (08 – 5, 09 – 2, 10 – 4, 11 – 3).

Maybe Billy C didn’t bring in as many in-state walk-ons but to say he didn’t sign in-state kids and then turn around and say Bo does is crazy. The facts don’t lie though because they signed the same amount of in-state kids.

FWIW: One of Bo’s signees was offered by our AD and another has a father on the staff.

What I am trying to say is that Clownahan had the chance to offer this kid, who is good but didnt and he was right here. 52 miles from campus. Taking Nebraska kids is great but they better be good. This is a case of just a huge miss.

Then the walk-on aspect is another story, its not even so much that Cantcoachahan wasnt taking walk-ons, he was, he just was not practicing them.

 

[knapplc]

Maybe Billy C didn’t bring in as many in-state walk-ons but to say he didn’t sign in-state kids and then turn around and say Bo does is crazy. The facts don’t lie though because they signed the same amount of in-state kids.

Who is saying this? This is a complete straw man.

 

[redblooded]

Yes I bet the coaching thing had alot to do with it, that and the fact Cally paid no attention to him or his brother even thou he had people in his ear telling him to.

You boviously had no clue what was going on in Lincoln during the Dark Ages. Clownahan paid no attention to any one talking in his ear, well except his snuggle buddy Coz.

Key thing here, Shaun was committed to the Hawk for 6 months before Pelini entered the picture. And when Iowa offered Shane it iced the deal, all took place before the Pelini hired. And knapp raises good points about proven commodities.

And IMO Shaun probably would have been a nickel/ dime back last year while backing up Prince and Zo. Would be competing for the other corner slot this year. I have never been overly impressed. The kid has speed though and seems to have matured(obviously better than Shane) well. Still would have taken David Whitmore over Prater

I am sure you are way more aware of your history than I am. But I know your LB coach at the time also didnt want him and was telling Cally that. I agree with the whole time frame and all, but he hadnt signed yet and he did think about Nebraska. Those kids came here to play ball, so I do know a thing or two about them. Not to mention I like to think I know alot about several B10 teams.

I dont get the whole better than Shane comment. Shane tore his acl (?????) I think. He is still playing ball, but wont ever do it in D1 ball again.

As for how good Shaun is, read what your old WR said. So what now you know better who is a better corner over a #5 drafted Niles Paul? Is that what you are trying to argue?

No offense to Paul, but I wouldn't take his word on who is a better corner either. We're talking high-school friend apparently and its not like Paul is some sort of world beater at wide receiver in the first place. Plus it's athlete speak.

That said I wouldn't blame any in state (especially defensive) recruit for going elsewhere during Callahan years or coaching changes and the guy seems like a good kid.

but we can add him as another good instate prospect missed out on under Callahan, along with Woodhead.

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

Who is saying this? This is a complete straw man.

This was a response to teacher’s post, which they responded and explained their statement.

I’m sure I dreamed up people having discussions about Billy C’s lack of in-state recruiting and how Bo is reviving the in-state players. I’ll have my facts checker look into it and get back to you.

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

Billy C’s four recruiting classes included 14 in-state kids (04 – 5, 05 – 3, 06 – 4, 07 – 2).

Bo’s first four recruiting classes included 14 in-state kids (08 – 5, 09 – 2, 10 – 4, 11 – 3).

Maybe Billy C didn’t bring in as many in-state walk-ons but to say he didn’t sign in-state kids and then turn around and say Bo does is crazy. The facts don’t lie though because they signed the same amount of in-state kids.

FWIW: One of Bo’s signees was offered by our AD and another has a father on the staff.

What I am trying to say is that Clownahan had the chance to offer this kid, who is good but didnt and he was right here. 52 miles from campus. Taking Nebraska kids is great but they better be good. This is a case of just a huge miss.

Then the walk-on aspect is another story, its not even so much that Cantcoachahan wasnt taking walk-ons, he was, he just was not practicing them.

I totally agree with you about Prater. :thumbs I forget though were the Prater's trying to go someplace as a package deal? If that was the case maybe NU didn't want the other one so they didn't bother with Shaun. :dunno