Taylor Throwing Motion
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zoogs
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Regardless of anything, Taylor was on fire that game. Made a lot of good throws. Look at the highlights, it's not the type of throw Taylor is supposed to hit with consistency. He even led a receiver properly on a slant or drag or something, which is something he almost never did last year.
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BigWillie
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Mierin
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I think he's trying to make the point that someone else stated. Martinez isn't a traditional passer. He needs to get it to his targets. He can throw it between his legs if it gets the ball there. So if his passing got worse with a "better" throwing motion, then it's overrated. *shrug*
carlfense
Heisman Trophy Winner
Saunders
Heisman Trophy Winner
I am dead serious. Vince Young, Tim Tebow, Cam Newton all had horrible throwing motions. They also won national titles 3 of the last 6 years. Scott Frost, Tommie Frazier, and Eric Crouch also had bad to awkward throwing motions. They seemed to do OK.
flatwaterfan
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Yes Frost used to have a bit of a shotput motion with his throws. Danny Weurfel (sp?) was another guy that had an odd motion. Kenny Stabler threw sidearm. (ok I'm old)
The Dude
Heisman Trophy Winner
As long as it doesn't take forever to develop (like Tebow's), there's really nothing wrong with an awkward throwing motion in college football. Even Tebow had success as a passer with a horribly slow throwing motion. Taylor's throwing motion is considerably more efficient than Tebow's. I'm much more concerned about where the ball ends up than how it looks when he throws it.
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carlfense
Heisman Trophy Winner
But here's the thing . . . all other things being equal a proper throwing motion increases accuracy and efficiency. Saying that you don't care about it is kind of like saying that you want a really fast car but don't care about the engine. The parts contribute to the whole.
GMoose
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No, I am realistic. OP cited the OSU game (I'm guessing) as an example why his throwing motion doesn't matter. You said, "If the results are like that with any consistency, he can under hand toss for all I care.", but we will consistently play defenses that are far better than OSU. He had HALF of his TD passes on the season in that one game. You don't think that's a bad example?
Cdog923
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GMoose
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Back to the original topic...the "traditional" throwing motion is the standard because it's accurate, compact, and efficient. If they had him change the motion, it's because they thought it would improve him as a passer in the long run, something that Martinez needs.
BigWillie
All-Conference
Cam Newton didn't need to completely overhaul his motion. Yes, he does/did have mechanical issues such as keeping his elbow high on the beginning of his throw and dropping his arm straight down after release. But the difference in those mechanical flaws is those are small things that can be fixed through repetition and something that doesn't need a completely overhaul to his throwing motion.
In Taylor's case, his biggest issue is repeating those same mechanics over and over. Because of his mechanical faults, Taylor has a bad habit of throwing to the spot where his WR is, rather than where his WR is going to be.
A bad (or good) example that I can remember was in the Texas game. Niles was coming on a crossing route, wide open, absolutely no rush and Taylor throws the ball way behind a wide open Niles. If Taylor even lollipops this throw in, Niles has a great chance to pick up some serious yardage.
*28:30 mark in the vid ..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISxz9gedhNI
There are so many instances on the year where even when Taylor DID complete a throw, because of a throw being behind a receiver, or forcing a receiver to stop on a route, it ended up costing our offense so many extra yards.
Dissecting Taylor's motion would be like trying to give a description of a man with a suitcase of disguises. In so many throws, he rarely ever repeats his mechanics.
In the above throw, separation of his feet, no proper weight distribution in those feet, throwing across his body, no torque from the hips, throwing only with his upper body .. need I go on?
Don't get me wrong - people can get by with horrid throwing mechanics. But for every one of those guys you tell me that can succeed with bad mechanics by just being a great athlete, you can name off 50 who did not succeed.
Exception. Rule.
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The Dude
Heisman Trophy Winner
What's a "proper" throwing motion? It's generally understood that you want to have a quick release in the NFL because a slow developing throwing motion can get you in trouble with NFL secondaries. Which is why Tebow's throwing motion was scrutinized by scouts. Not because it decreased his accuracy. Tebow has always thrown that way, that's what he's most comfortable with, so that's obviously how he's going to be most accurate. A more accurate analogy would be wanting a really fast car and not really caring about the color.
That has more to do with footwork than throwing motion. Which is something that is a big issue with Taylor. Even if he sets his feet properly he's still going to have the same awkward looking throwing motion, i.e. cocking his head back which gives him the appearance of a shot putter.
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