Am I missing something? (Washington Game)

[NUpolo8]

Let's compare:

A game played where there are no significant injuries on either side, on a beautiful, almost hot by Seattle standards where they home team gets flat out embarrassed and their sure fire ltop 15 draft pick QB gets tossed around like a dirty flannel shirt at a Mudhoney concert....

OR.....

A horribly rainy sloppy game played on a disgrace of a football team, where one participant was running around celebrating making this bowl, any bowl, and probably framed their own 8th place ribbons before they left, and the other was broken, defeated, about to fire their OC, had two profoundly injured QB's, and had been through a ringer of screwjobs over the last month.

Which game would provide a more accurate judgement of the teams? The Sept. Version vs. your bowl team puts 50+ still I bet.

I realize that game still counted, and it's deplorable that NU acted like that, but any intelligent fan would realize the stupidity of calling that bowl game a true yardstick

But then again, you will probably crawl back inside a Ranier can after the beat down in two weeks, never to beard from again, so I guess I'll never know.....

Cry More

Yeah, OK. :moreinteresting :nanalama

 

[Foppa]

Let's compare:

A game played where there are no significant injuries on either side, on a beautiful, almost hot by Seattle standards where they home team gets flat out embarrassed and their sure fire ltop 15 draft pick QB gets tossed around like a dirty flannel shirt at a Mudhoney concert....

OR.....

A horribly rainy sloppy game played on a disgrace of a football team, where one participant was running around celebrating making this bowl, any bowl, and probably framed their own 8th place ribbons before they left, and the other was broken, defeated, about to fire their OC, had two profoundly injured QB's, and had been through a ringer of screwjobs over the last month.

Which game would provide a more accurate judgement of the teams? The Sept. Version vs. your bowl team puts 50+ still I bet.

I realize that game still counted, and it's deplorable that NU acted like that, but any intelligent fan would realize the stupidity of calling that bowl game a true yardstick

But then again, you will probably crawl back inside a Ranier can after the beat down in two weeks, never to beard from again, so I guess I'll never know.....

Cry More

Yeah, OK. :moreinteresting :nanalama

Not cool Polo...c'mon...they just won 'their' version of a National Championship. They'll never see a real one, so give em this.

 

[Foppa]

Let's compare:

A game played where there are no significant injuries on either side, on a beautiful, almost hot by Seattle standards where they home team gets flat out embarrassed and their sure fire ltop 15 draft pick QB gets tossed around like a dirty flannel shirt at a Mudhoney concert....

OR.....

A horribly rainy sloppy game played on a disgrace of a football team, where one participant was running around celebrating making this bowl, any bowl, and probably framed their own 8th place ribbons before they left, and the other was broken, defeated, about to fire their OC, had two profoundly injured QB's, and had been through a ringer of screwjobs over the last month.

Which game would provide a more accurate judgement of the teams? The Sept. Version vs. your bowl team puts 50+ still I bet.

I realize that game still counted, and it's deplorable that NU acted like that, but any intelligent fan would realize the stupidity of calling that bowl game a true yardstick

But then again, you will probably crawl back inside a Ranier can after the beat down in two weeks, never to beard from again, so I guess I'll never know.....

Cry More

Yeah, OK. :moreinteresting :nanalama

Not cool Polo...c'mon...they just won 'their' version of a National Championship. They'll never see a real one, so give em this.

And I forgot that they're still ecstatic about splitting things with their new brethren back in 90, and they LOST to them then. Barely beat SJSU, barely beat Purdue. They were awesome though.

 

[UDub]

Let's compare:

A game played where there are no significant injuries on either side, on a beautiful, almost hot by Seattle standards where they home team gets flat out embarrassed and their sure fire ltop 15 draft pick QB gets tossed around like a dirty flannel shirt at a Mudhoney concert....

OR.....

A horribly rainy sloppy game played on a disgrace of a football team, where one participant was running around celebrating making this bowl, any bowl, and probably framed their own 8th place ribbons before they left, and the other was broken, defeated, about to fire their OC, had two profoundly injured QB's, and had been through a ringer of screwjobs over the last month.

Which game would provide a more accurate judgement of the teams? The Sept. Version vs. your bowl team puts 50+ still I bet.

I realize that game still counted, and it's deplorable that NU acted like that, but any intelligent fan would realize the stupidity of calling that bowl game a true yardstick

But then again, you will probably crawl back inside a Ranier can after the beat down in two weeks, never to beard from again, so I guess I'll never know.....

Cry More

Yeah, OK. :moreinteresting :nanalama

Not cool Polo...c'mon...they just won 'their' version of a National Championship. They'll never see a real one, so give em this.

And I forgot that they're still ecstatic about splitting things with their new brethren back in 90, and they LOST to them then. Barely beat SJSU, barely beat Purdue. They were awesome though.

We have 2 or 4 national titles depending on what polls you want to count so i have no clue what you are talking about.

 

[walksalone]

Too bad there was like 2 Cornhusker fans at the Holiday Bowl.

Thats it, thats what you brought?

Since Husker fans are generally decent bunch, unless provoked, we're going to hold a fund raiser, pony up some cash for smack talking lessons, and then once you've studied, come back and see us...

 

[redblooded]

Let's compare:

A game played where there are no significant injuries on either side, on a beautiful, almost hot by Seattle standards where they home team gets flat out embarrassed and their sure fire ltop 15 draft pick QB gets tossed around like a dirty flannel shirt at a Mudhoney concert....

OR.....

A horribly rainy sloppy game played on a disgrace of a football team, where one participant was running around celebrating making this bowl, any bowl, and probably framed their own 8th place ribbons before they left, and the other was broken, defeated, about to fire their OC, had two profoundly injured QB's, and had been through a ringer of screwjobs over the last month.

Which game would provide a more accurate judgement of the teams? The Sept. Version vs. your bowl team puts 50+ still I bet.

I realize that game still counted, and it's deplorable that NU acted like that, but any intelligent fan would realize the stupidity of calling that bowl game a true yardstick

But then again, you will probably crawl back inside a Ranier can after the beat down in two weeks, never to beard from again, so I guess I'll never know.....

Cry More

Yeah, OK. :moreinteresting :nanalama

Not cool Polo...c'mon...they just won 'their' version of a National Championship. They'll never see a real one, so give em this.

And I forgot that they're still ecstatic about splitting things with their new brethren back in 90, and they LOST to them then. Barely beat SJSU, barely beat Purdue. They were awesome though.

We have 2 or 4 national titles depending on what polls you want to count so i have no clue what you are talking about.

Well everyone with any sort of a brain would look at this:

Washington claims the following national championships:

Year Coach Selector Record Bowl Game

1960 Jim Owens Helms 10-1 Won Rose Bowl

1984 Don James B(QPRS), FN, NCF 11-1 Won Orange Bowl

1990 Don James Rothman/FACT 10-2 Won Rose Bowl

1991 Don James B(QPRS), DeS, DuS, FN, FWAA, MGR, NCF, R(FACT), SR, UPI/NFF, USAT/CNN 12-0 Won Rose Bowl

and say who in the hell selected:

Year Coach Selector Record Bowl Game

1960 Jim Owens Helms 10-1 Won Rose Bowl

1984 Don James B(QPRS), FN, NCF 11-1 Won Orange Bowl

1990 Don James Rothman/FACT 10-2 Won Rose Bowl

1991 Don James B(QPRS), DeS, DuS, FN, FWAA, MGR, NCF, R(FACT), SR, UPI/NFF, USAT/CNN 12-0 Won Rose Bowl

Hell in 1960 5 teams are trying to claim that national title.

and hey look in 1984 (according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBS) nebraska had a share of that national title. Think we are pathetic enough to try and claim that crap? hell no... see that 13-0 next to BYU there? and you're trying to claim what another 1/4th of one with GT and Colorado in 1990? It doesn't work that way in any rational teams mind, at least since the 1930s.

Trying to claim more makes you look like Alabama or Notre Dame caliber morons. Except the thing is those (ND and bama's) National championship claims were done in like the late 19th and early 20th century before polls stopped declaring Championships before the end of the season or really even existed... Washington looks like they are trying to claim participation awards for special Olympians. You had ONE undefeated season where you legitimately have a claim to a National championship. Unless the Major polls declared you one, nobody else recognizes that some moron sportscaster in your region did... especially in the modern era.

But by all means claim as many as you want. How about 300? Washington Huskies, 300peat national champions in NCAA football! Sounds good! Right?

Except for the fact that you have ONE national championship.

It's split with Miami.

 

[UDub]

Let's compare:

A game played where there are no significant injuries on either side, on a beautiful, almost hot by Seattle standards where they home team gets flat out embarrassed and their sure fire ltop 15 draft pick QB gets tossed around like a dirty flannel shirt at a Mudhoney concert....

OR.....

A horribly rainy sloppy game played on a disgrace of a football team, where one participant was running around celebrating making this bowl, any bowl, and probably framed their own 8th place ribbons before they left, and the other was broken, defeated, about to fire their OC, had two profoundly injured QB's, and had been through a ringer of screwjobs over the last month.

Which game would provide a more accurate judgement of the teams? The Sept. Version vs. your bowl team puts 50+ still I bet.

I realize that game still counted, and it's deplorable that NU acted like that, but any intelligent fan would realize the stupidity of calling that bowl game a true yardstick

But then again, you will probably crawl back inside a Ranier can after the beat down in two weeks, never to beard from again, so I guess I'll never know.....

Cry More

Yeah, OK. :moreinteresting :nanalama

Not cool Polo...c'mon...they just won 'their' version of a National Championship. They'll never see a real one, so give em this.

And I forgot that they're still ecstatic about splitting things with their new brethren back in 90, and they LOST to them then. Barely beat SJSU, barely beat Purdue. They were awesome though.

We have 2 or 4 national titles depending on what polls you want to count so i have no clue what you are talking about.

Well everyone with any sort of a brain would look at this:

Washington claims the following national championships:

Year Coach Selector Record Bowl Game

1960 Jim Owens Helms 10-1 Won Rose Bowl

1984 Don James B(QPRS), FN, NCF 11-1 Won Orange Bowl

1990 Don James Rothman/FACT 10-2 Won Rose Bowl

1991 Don James B(QPRS), DeS, DuS, FN, FWAA, MGR, NCF, R(FACT), SR, UPI/NFF, USAT/CNN 12-0 Won Rose Bowl

and say who in the hell selected:

Year Coach Selector Record Bowl Game

1960 Jim Owens Helms 10-1 Won Rose Bowl

1984 Don James B(QPRS), FN, NCF 11-1 Won Orange Bowl

1990 Don James Rothman/FACT 10-2 Won Rose Bowl

1991 Don James B(QPRS), DeS, DuS, FN, FWAA, MGR, NCF, R(FACT), SR, UPI/NFF, USAT/CNN 12-0 Won Rose Bowl

Hell in 1960 5 teams are trying to claim that national title.

and hey look in 1984 (according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBS) nebraska had a share of that national title. Think we are pathetic enough to try and claim that crap? hell no... see that 13-0 next to BYU there? and you're trying to claim what another 1/4th of one with GT and Colorado in 1990? It doesn't work that way in any rational teams mind, at least since the 1930s.

Trying to claim more makes you look like Alabama or Notre Dame caliber morons. Except the thing is those (ND and bama's) National championship claims were done in like the late 19th and early 20th century before polls stopped declaring Championships before the end of the season or really even existed... Washington looks like they are trying to claim participation awards for special Olympians. You had ONE undefeated season where you legitimately have a claim to a National championship. Unless the Major polls declared you one, nobody else recognizes that some moron sportscaster in your region did, especially in the modern era.

But by all means claim as many as you want. How about 300? Washington Huskies, 300peat national champions in NCAA football! Sounds good! Right?

Except for the fact that you have ONE national championship.

It's split with Miami.

By that rationale you have two legitimate national titles as well. 1971 and 1995. All the other years had Nebraska splitting it with other teams. The whole determining who the national champion is though is really a joke in college football though... with no playoff system it's just awful.

 

[walksalone]

By that rationale you have two legitimate national titles as well. 1971 and 1995. All the other years had Nebraska splitting it with other teams. The whole determining who the national champion is though is really a joke in college football though... with no playoff system it's just awful.

94, we'd have played Penn St in a parking lot, and beat their a$$, and 97, we'd have played Michigan on a municipal golf course and whooped them too...

 

[Hercules]

Let's compare:

A game played where there are no significant injuries on either side, on a beautiful, almost hot by Seattle standards where they home team gets flat out embarrassed and their sure fire ltop 15 draft pick QB gets tossed around like a dirty flannel shirt at a Mudhoney concert....

OR.....

A horribly rainy sloppy game played on a disgrace of a football team, where one participant was running around celebrating making this bowl, any bowl, and probably framed their own 8th place ribbons before they left, and the other was broken, defeated, about to fire their OC, had two profoundly injured QB's, and had been through a ringer of screwjobs over the last month.

Which game would provide a more accurate judgement of the teams? The Sept. Version vs. your bowl team puts 50+ still I bet.

I realize that game still counted, and it's deplorable that NU acted like that, but any intelligent fan would realize the stupidity of calling that bowl game a true yardstick

But then again, you will probably crawl back inside a Ranier can after the beat down in two weeks, never to beard from again, so I guess I'll never know.....

Cry More

Yeah, OK. :moreinteresting :nanalama

Not cool Polo...c'mon...they just won 'their' version of a National Championship. They'll never see a real one, so give em this.

And I forgot that they're still ecstatic about splitting things with their new brethren back in 90, and they LOST to them then. Barely beat SJSU, barely beat Purdue. They were awesome though.

We have 2 or 4 national titles depending on what polls you want to count so i have no clue what you are talking about.

Well everyone with any sort of a brain would look at this:

Washington claims the following national championships:

Year Coach Selector Record Bowl Game

1960 Jim Owens Helms 10-1 Won Rose Bowl

1984 Don James B(QPRS), FN, NCF 11-1 Won Orange Bowl

1990 Don James Rothman/FACT 10-2 Won Rose Bowl

1991 Don James B(QPRS), DeS, DuS, FN, FWAA, MGR, NCF, R(FACT), SR, UPI/NFF, USAT/CNN 12-0 Won Rose Bowl

and say who in the hell selected:

Year Coach Selector Record Bowl Game

1960 Jim Owens Helms 10-1 Won Rose Bowl

1984 Don James B(QPRS), FN, NCF 11-1 Won Orange Bowl

1990 Don James Rothman/FACT 10-2 Won Rose Bowl

1991 Don James B(QPRS), DeS, DuS, FN, FWAA, MGR, NCF, R(FACT), SR, UPI/NFF, USAT/CNN 12-0 Won Rose Bowl

Hell in 1960 5 teams are trying to claim that national title.

and hey look in 1984 (according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/College_football_national_championships_in_NCAA_Division_I_FBS) nebraska had a share of that national title. Think we are pathetic enough to try and claim that crap? hell no... see that 13-0 next to BYU there? and you're trying to claim what another 1/4th of one with GT and Colorado in 1990? It doesn't work that way in any rational teams mind, at least since the 1930s.

Trying to claim more makes you look like Alabama or Notre Dame caliber morons. Except the thing is those (ND and bama's) National championship claims were done in like the late 19th and early 20th century before polls stopped declaring Championships before the end of the season or really even existed... Washington looks like they are trying to claim participation awards for special Olympians. You had ONE undefeated season where you legitimately have a claim to a National championship. Unless the Major polls declared you one, nobody else recognizes that some moron sportscaster in your region did, especially in the modern era.

But by all means claim as many as you want. How about 300? Washington Huskies, 300peat national champions in NCAA football! Sounds good! Right?

Except for the fact that you have ONE national championship.

It's split with Miami.

By that rationale you have two legitimate national titles as well. 1971 and 1995. All the other years had Nebraska splitting it with other teams. The whole determining who the national champion is though is really a joke in college football though... with no playoff system it's just awful.

No. The AP poll counts, and the Coaches poll counts. All the other polls are garbage. If we use your logic, I believe we could claim national championships from 1980-1984. But we don't, because we're not that lame.

Also, we didn't share the national championship in 1994. We took #1 in both the AP and the Coaches poll.

 

[UDub]

Well it really depends on what polls you want to count, it's all very subjective in college football which is stupid in the first place since there should be a playoff system. TCU not being considered a national champion last year is just wrong. Name me another major sport where an undefeated team doesn't get a shot at being the champion... it's a joke really.Just keep the 4 Major Bowl Games (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange), then have the winner of the Rose play the winner of the Fiesta and the winner of the Sugar play the winner of the Orange. Then the winners of those two games play in the National Championship Game. It's really simple... but the BCS is pathetic and this never will happen.

 

[walksalone]

Well it really depends on what polls you want to count, it's all very subjective in college football which is stupid in the first place since there should be a playoff system. TCU not being considered a national champion last year is just wrong. Name me another major sport where an undefeated team doesn't get a shot at being the champion... it's a joke really.Just keep the 4 Major Bowl Games (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange), then have the winner of the Rose play the winner of the Fiesta and the winner of the Sugar play the winner of the Orange. Then the winners of those two games play in the National Championship Game. It's really simple... but the BCS is pathetic and this never will happen.

We still have more National Titles...

 

[redblooded]

Well it really depends on what polls you want to count, it's all very subjective in college football which is stupid in the first place since there should be a playoff system. TCU not being considered a national champion last year is just wrong. Name me another major sport where an undefeated team doesn't get a shot at being the champion... it's a joke really.Just keep the 4 Major Bowl Games (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange), then have the winner of the Rose play the winner of the Fiesta and the winner of the Sugar play the winner of the Orange. Then the winners of those two games play in the National Championship Game. It's really simple... but the BCS is pathetic and this never will happen.

It's really not, it's the AP and Coaches poll since they stopped voting on championships before bowls. The nationally recognized polls.

Beyond that, it's where it gets murky. However considering 3 of the 4 titles you are trying to claim were awarded by the Helms, (B(QPRS), FN, NCF), and (Rothman/FACT). They don't really fall into that "murky" area for anyone else.

Like I said feel free to claim as many as you want, just as the rest of college football will feel free to laugh their asses off at you for doing it, like we are here.

"Sure you were champions in '84 buddy, sure you were" with the rest of the nation's arms around your back as we all look away and snicker. "Good for you!"

 

[Hercules]

Well it really depends on what polls you want to count, it's all very subjective in college football which is stupid in the first place since there should be a playoff system. TCU not being considered a national champion last year is just wrong. Name me another major sport where an undefeated team doesn't get a shot at being the champion... it's a joke really.Just keep the 4 Major Bowl Games (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange), then have the winner of the Rose play the winner of the Fiesta and the winner of the Sugar play the winner of the Orange. Then the winners of those two games play in the National Championship Game. It's really simple... but the BCS is pathetic and this never will happen.

I'm all for having a playoff, the system is ridiculous. But until a playoff happens, don't claim a national title unless it's from the AP poll, or the coaches poll. Washington has plenty to be proud of with its football program, and one national championship is more than most schools have. So stop pretending you have more - that makes the program seem way more sad than the fact that it only has one national championship.

 

[walksalone]

I guess what baffles me more than anything, is the feeble attempt to legitimize a program that isn't even on the same level as ours.

3 more national titles, over 25 more conference titles, 3 more Heisman's...

Should I continue?

 

[UDub]

Well it really depends on what polls you want to count, it's all very subjective in college football which is stupid in the first place since there should be a playoff system. TCU not being considered a national champion last year is just wrong. Name me another major sport where an undefeated team doesn't get a shot at being the champion... it's a joke really.Just keep the 4 Major Bowl Games (Rose, Fiesta, Sugar, Orange), then have the winner of the Rose play the winner of the Fiesta and the winner of the Sugar play the winner of the Orange. Then the winners of those two games play in the National Championship Game. It's really simple... but the BCS is pathetic and this never will happen.

It's really not, it's the AP and Coaches poll since they stopped voting on championships before bowls. The nationally recognized polls.

Beyond that, it's where it gets murky. However considering 3 of the 4 titles you are trying to claim were awarded by the Helms, (B(QPRS), FN, NCF), and (Rothman/FACT). They don't really fall into that "murky" area for anyone else.

Like I said feel free to claim as many as you want, just as the rest of college football will feel free to laugh their asses off at you for doing it, like we are here.

"Sure you were champions in '84 buddy, sure you were" with the rest of the nation's arms around your back as we all look away and snicker. "Good for you!"

You just contradicted yourself then. The 1960 Husky National Title team would have been undisputed National Champs if the AP and Coaches poll were done after the bowl game since Washington beat the AP and Coaches champ of that year-Minnesota in the Rose Bowl. Thus you just proved that the Huskies 1960 Championship is legit. The 1984 and 1990 teams are "murky" I agree, but not the 1960 or 1991 teams.