Belly G

[sd'sker]

Sometimes Martinez's execution isn't great, but he's not the only one. Sometimes we're simply allowing too much penetration from the end, or our WRs aren't making their blocks. Often (unless it's Rex), the pitchmen (Ameer, Aaron Green, Jamal Turner...) have been really inconsistent with keeping their spacing correctly. Martinez has made mistakes but he's far from the only one - he's just the one most people are watching.

this is true.

also, with t-mart's blocking, he needs to block the right guy, but i would not expect him to be like frost down field. he just needs to get in their way long enough for the ball carrier to get through the gap.

 

[Enhance]

Sometimes Martinez's execution isn't great, but he's not the only one. Sometimes we're simply allowing too much penetration from the end, or our WRs aren't making their blocks. Often (unless it's Rex), the pitchmen (Ameer, Aaron Green, Jamal Turner...) have been really inconsistent with keeping their spacing correctly. Martinez has made mistakes but he's far from the only one - he's just the one most people are watching.

This is a great point. I think a lot of fans often key in on the guy with the football or the offensive line as a whole, but really one player can make or break any given play. As I mentioned in an above post, Martinez missed a crucial block on the end around to Bell in the third quarter, a block that could have sprung a touchdown. That one mess-up caused a five yard gain instead of a possible touchdown.

Or, as you mentioned, one WR not making a block, a tackle getting beat by the end, a guard tripping, etc., can all lead to problems. It takes 11 guys to fluidly execute a play to success, not just one, as many people often inadvertently think.

 

[Hercules]

Sometimes Martinez's execution isn't great, but he's not the only one. Sometimes we're simply allowing too much penetration from the end, or our WRs aren't making their blocks. Often (unless it's Rex), the pitchmen (Ameer, Aaron Green, Jamal Turner...) have been really inconsistent with keeping their spacing correctly. Martinez has made mistakes but he's far from the only one - he's just the one most people are watching.

this is true.

also, with t-mart's blocking, he needs to block the right guy, but i would not expect him to be like frost down field. he just needs to get in their way long enough for the ball carrier to get through the gap.

Right, he's not going to be Frost or Frazier blocking downfield. I'd have to watch that reverse against MSU again, but I don't think Martinez was the problem with the blocking on that play. Obviously he could have blocked somebody, but he didn't hit anybody against Minnesota and Bell went 82 yards. I think somebody else missed their block - maybe Caputo?

 

[Blackshirt39]

Sometimes Martinez's execution isn't great, but he's not the only one. Sometimes we're simply allowing too much penetration from the end, or our WRs aren't making their blocks. Often (unless it's Rex), the pitchmen (Ameer, Aaron Green, Jamal Turner...) have been really inconsistent with keeping their spacing correctly. Martinez has made mistakes but he's far from the only one - he's just the one most people are watching.

this is true.

also, with t-mart's blocking, he needs to block the right guy, but i would not expect him to be like frost down field. he just needs to get in their way long enough for the ball carrier to get through the gap.

Right, he's not going to be Frost or Frazier blocking downfield. I'd have to watch that reverse against MSU again, but I don't think Martinez was the problem with the blocking on that play. Obviously he could have blocked somebody, but he didn't hit anybody against Minnesota and Bell went 82 yards. I think somebody else missed their block - maybe Caputo?

That kind of play lives and dies by the effectiveness of the misdirection. Minnesota over-pursued it harder than MSU.

 

[BIGREDFAN_in_OMAHA]

Great input. It was the terminology that was new not the concept.

 

[bshirt]

It seems there are some people in this thread that understand the option game so I have a question. Has anyone else noticed that more often than not Martinez runs in an arc towards the backfield rather than going straight down the line? Is this because he is being taught different than our great option qb's or is it an allowance due to our O linemen not getting any line surge? I like Taylor and think he's the guy for the job but if you go back and look at Frazier, Crouch, Gill, Frost, etc they seem to go straight down the line and be in a better position to make the defender commit to them or the pitch man. It seems as though our option game would improve if Taylor tweeked his mechanics and made the D actually make a decision between him or Burkhead or whoever. I think his line path is what leads to all those pitches that make us gasp for air. Surely our coaches notice this if I am. Or am I just an idiot?

That's a good question! You're right, Frost, Frazier, etc ran a very straight horizontal line while Tmart doesn't.

Maybe I'm an idiot too but it would make sense in that obviously our Oline isn't within 10,000 miles of those pipelines. So maybe that's how we compensate? Hell, I don't know.

If that's not the reason I would think they're working hard to fix that, right?

GBR!!

 

[bshirt]

Oh boy, it can't be easy to master the zone read, option, diamond, power I, the sorta shotgun veer, lining up behind center, lining up in the shotgun, etc, etc.

Of course our qb gets ripped apart daily for everything but with the way we're constantly improving on running the ball he must be making some good reads on the defense I would think? Either that or the Oline is getting very, very good. Or maybe a combination of the two? I don't know but it sure is fun to watch!

The 2nd halfs of the Ohio St & Michigan St games were almost too thrilling to endure as we ran the damn ball down their throats. Being able to do that vs two "very", very good defenses is most positive thing I've seen with NU in many years. We just might be starting to turn the corner. Oh, for sure we're nowhere close to being dominate yet but I think we're getting close to the Crouch years and that is indeed major, major improvement.

Zero chance Clownahan's and/or SW's offense rips those two defenses apart. "Especially" in the 2nd half.

Love it.

GBR!!

 

[HuskerCarter]

I know im ressurecting this, but thought some one might like to know that it was solich in 1999 who introduced the belly g option to Nebraska in a pro set formation. Though one could argue that it was more Tom Osborne's idea than Frank Solich. I guess we will never know.

 

[shyndy]

I know im ressurecting this, but thought some one might like to know that it was solich in 1999 who introduced the belly g option to Nebraska in a pro set formation. Though one could argue that it was more Tom Osborne's idea than Frank Solich. I guess we will never know.

Really? NU never had a belly trap option until Solich? I'm sure that has been in the playbook for a long time.

 

[3rd and long]

It seems there are some people in this thread that understand the option game so I have a question. Has anyone else noticed that more often than not Martinez runs in an arc towards the backfield rather than going straight down the line? Is this because he is being taught different than our great option qb's or is it an allowance due to our O linemen not getting any line surge? I like Taylor and think he's the guy for the job but if you go back and look at Frazier, Crouch, Gill, Frost, etc they seem to go straight down the line and be in a better position to make the defender commit to them or the pitch man. It seems as though our option game would improve if Taylor tweeked his mechanics and made the D actually make a decision between him or Burkhead or whoever. I think his line path is what leads to all those pitches that make us gasp for air. Surely our coaches notice this if I am. Or am I just an idiot?

That's a good question! You're right, Frost, Frazier, etc ran a very straight horizontal line while Tmart doesn't.

Maybe I'm an idiot too but it would make sense in that obviously our Oline isn't within 10,000 miles of those pipelines. So maybe that's how we compensate? Hell, I don't know.

If that's not the reason I would think they're working hard to fix that, right?

GBR!!

I'll speculate on the reason. I don't remember for sure, but it seemed we ran more dive option in the past where it did not have the guard pulling. I'm wondering if TM's arc is to give him a little bit of space to keep from running up the backside of the pulling guard. It also may help in giving a step of seperation if a defender is able to blow the C gap. And that's probably a good thing, this line has allowed a lot of penetration this year and penetration absolutely blows up a straight down the line option.

 

[zoogs]

Oh boy, it can't be easy to master the zone read, option, diamond, power I, the sorta shotgun veer, lining up behind center, lining up in the shotgun, etc, etc.

Yeah, our offense is too complicated. Simplify this dang thing, Beck.