Never Seen a Season with so little Excitement on the National Scene

[Bradr]

Just look at the losses by the cotenders. Stanford (lost to #9 Oregon) Okie St. ( lost to unranked Iowa St.) Virginia Tech ( got smoked by #20 Clemson) Alabama ( lost to #1 LSU) Now tell me who deserves to play LSU in the title game.

Someone other than Alabama. They had their shot. They blew it.

Just like Nebraska blew some games and isn't in the BIG championship. Hell, we beat Michigan state (who's playing tonight) and lost to Wisconsin. Do we deserve to be there in a rematch against Wisc - no. Granted, we have three losses, but you lose games during the regular season in your conference & aren't the conference champion, then there's not way you should be able to back door into the national title.

 

[Excel]

There was always a race...Oregon early, Wisconsin, Oklahoma, Okie St, Stanford and Arkansas right up to last week. I really enjoyed this season.

The only teams that I ever considered in the race were Okie STate, ArKansas (reluctantly), Bama, LSU.... Wisconsin (no offense), Stanford, and OU nevered looked the part in my opinion.....

Wait...Arkansas looked more the part than OU? We must have watched two different seasons. Up until their first loss to TTU Oklahoma looked damn good. Arkansas on the other hand was always shaky

OU was all smoke and mirrors. They lost to TT and Baylor. Pullleeasse.

uhh yea...I mentioned that in my post. I do not now think they'd be able to contend but prior to that loss I did.

I would have loved for a team outside of the SEC...say Clemson or Okie St. to have made a run. They did not. The one nice thing about all this is that it will only fuel the playoff fire.

Just look at the losses by the cotenders.

Stanford (lost to #9 Oregon)

Okie St. ( lost to unranked Iowa St.)

Virginia Tech ( got smoked by #20 Clemson)

Alabama ( lost to #1 LSU)

Now tell me who deserves to play LSU in the title game.

Virginia Tech has a chance to avenge their only loss. If they win this time - when it counts the most - shouldn't that mean the first loss doesn't count and they deserve a shot at the national title as a major conference champion?

No. Who has VT beat? Nobody, even if they beat Clemson (who just finished their regular late season slide) they will have played no one. The ACC thanks god every day for the Big East. For football they're a garbage conference.

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

I would have loved for a team outside of the SEC...say Clemson or Okie St. to have made a run. They did not. The one nice thing about all this is that it will only fuel the playoff fire.

Just look at the losses by the cotenders.

Stanford (lost to #9 Oregon)

Okie St. ( lost to unranked Iowa St.)

Virginia Tech ( got smoked by #20 Clemson)

Alabama ( lost to #1 LSU)

Now tell me who deserves to play LSU in the title game.

Virginia Tech has a chance to avenge their only loss. If they win this time - when it counts the most - shouldn't that mean the first loss doesn't count and they deserve a shot at the national title as a major conference champion?

Of course, but then you have to compare losses.... Alabama (#1 LSU), then VT (unranked Clemson by 20 points).... So its still Bama by a long shot... In my opinion Bama, Okie St., and Stanford all have better cases then VT, cuz the ACC is horrible....

 

[B.B. Hemingway]

Just look at the losses by the cotenders. Stanford (lost to #9 Oregon) Okie St. ( lost to unranked Iowa St.) Virginia Tech ( got smoked by #20 Clemson) Alabama ( lost to #1 LSU) Now tell me who deserves to play LSU in the title game.

Someone other than Alabama. They had their shot. They blew it.

Just like Nebraska blew some games and isn't in the BIG championship. Hell, we beat Michigan state (who's playing tonight) and lost to Wisconsin. Do we deserve to be there in a rematch against Wisc - no. Granted, we have three losses, but you lose games during the regular season in your conference & aren't the conference champion, then there's not way you should be able to back door into the national title.

If there was another undefeated team (not Houston) then I would agree that they should get the go over Bama, but all contenders have a loss, and Bama has the best loss.... I just dont see the argument here.

 

[Mavric]

The problem I have with a rematch is I'm not sure what it's going to prove. If LSU wins again, why didn't another team get a shot? If Alabama wins again, LSU beat them at home and they won on a neutral field. How does that prove which team is better?

I have not argument that those are the two best teams in the country. If you had a four- or eight- team playoff and those teams are in the finals, that's great. The way we have it, someone else should get a shot.

Where are all the people arguing that you shouldn't get to play in the title game if you didn't win your conference?

I don't understand the "give someone else a shot" argument. It is very obvious who the two best teams in th country are. You don't always have to prove your "championship stature" in November, but in the National Championship game it is necessary. So that is why I would be fine crowning Bama the champs if they won the NC game against LSU. Bama would have won it, when it counted the most.

But you ignored my first point and reiterated my second. I agree that they are the best two teams. Alabama already had their chance and lost it (at home). To me, Alabama winning the second game wouldn't decide anything because they would be 1-1 against each other.

 

[Mavric]

Of course, but then you have to compare losses.... Alabama (#1 LSU), then VT (unranked Clemson by 20 points).... So its still Bama by a long shot... In my opinion Bama, Okie St., and Stanford all have better cases then VT, cuz the ACC is horrible....

No, by your logic if you beat a team you already lost to - when it matters more - the first loss doesn't count. So VT would be "undefeated".

 

[husker B-rent]

There is no reason for bama to get a rematch, they lost AT HOME to LSU just a few weeks ago. if this were a playoff then they would be eliminated and frankly people that are against a playoff claim that the regular season is the same as a playoff but if its a rematch then that is not the case and we should clearly have a playoff.

you will never know this season if the SEC is the best conference because they will have mostly only played themselves instead of going out and beating the best from another conference in the title game. The SEC has clearly been down this season with the exception of LSU and Bama and unless they play someone else then i dont see how they can claim to be a NC winner.

I dont care who it is but bama had their shot so give it to another team that deserves a shot just as much as bama does by only having one loss so give the shot to one of those teams. If OkieST wins today then i 100% believe that they should get the shot and if not then stanford should get it. I see zero reason that bama should get a shot........THEY ALREADY FREAKIN HAD ONE!

 

[VA Husker Fan]

I understand the "give someone else a shot" argument. LSU already proved they are better than Alabama, on the road, no fluke. If there was a 1 loss team closer to Alabama, they would be an unknown against LSU, and maybe they would be not only better than Alabama, but better than LSU. But I just don't see Oklahoma St, Stanford, or Va Tech as being anywhere close to Alabama.

Contrast that with 2006. Michigan probably did look like the #2 team, but Florida was so close that they deserved the shot that Michigan already had.

I don't see a Florida-type team out there this year.

 

[Excel]

There is no reason for bama to get a rematch, they lost AT HOME to LSU just a few weeks ago. if this were a playoff then they would be eliminated and frankly people that are against a playoff claim that the regular season is the same as a playoff but if its a rematch then that is not the case and we should clearly have a playoff.

you will never know this season if the SEC is the best conference because they will have mostly only played themselves instead of going out and beating the best from another conference in the title game. The SEC has clearly been down this season with the exception of LSU and Bama and unless they play someone else then i dont see how they can claim to be a NC winner.

I dont care who it is but bama had their shot so give it to another team that deserves a shot just as much as bama does by only having one loss so give the shot to one of those teams. If OkieST wins today then i 100% believe that they should get the shot and if not then stanford should get it. I see zero reason that bama should get a shot........THEY ALREADY FREAKIN HAD ONE!

Actually there are quite a few reasons many of which you can read in this thread from a number of different posters. You might not see them as valid but they exist.

That's not true, we will be able to judge that by looking at their OOC regular season games and other bowl games. The success or failure of a conference does not hinge on one game. If that were true we could say last year's bowl season was a success because OSU won the Sugar.

Stop painting things with such a broad brush.

 

[VA Husker Fan]

There is no reason for bama to get a rematch, they lost AT HOME to LSU just a few weeks ago. if this were a playoff then they would be eliminated and frankly people that are against a playoff claim that the regular season is the same as a playoff but if its a rematch then that is not the case and we should clearly have a playoff.

you will never know this season if the SEC is the best conference because they will have mostly only played themselves instead of going out and beating the best from another conference in the title game. The SEC has clearly been down this season with the exception of LSU and Bama and unless they play someone else then i dont see how they can claim to be a NC winner.

I dont care who it is but bama had their shot so give it to another team that deserves a shot just as much as bama does by only having one loss so give the shot to one of those teams. If OkieST wins today then i 100% believe that they should get the shot and if not then stanford should get it. I see zero reason that bama should get a shot........THEY ALREADY FREAKIN HAD ONE!

So if Iowa St was in the national championship game, Okie St wouldn't belong because ISU beat them, but it's ok to give Okie St a shot even though ISU isn't very good at all? That's why a lot of people think Alabama belongs this year.

 

[husker B-rent]

There is no reason for bama to get a rematch, they lost AT HOME to LSU just a few weeks ago. if this were a playoff then they would be eliminated and frankly people that are against a playoff claim that the regular season is the same as a playoff but if its a rematch then that is not the case and we should clearly have a playoff.

you will never know this season if the SEC is the best conference because they will have mostly only played themselves instead of going out and beating the best from another conference in the title game. The SEC has clearly been down this season with the exception of LSU and Bama and unless they play someone else then i dont see how they can claim to be a NC winner.

I dont care who it is but bama had their shot so give it to another team that deserves a shot just as much as bama does by only having one loss so give the shot to one of those teams. If OkieST wins today then i 100% believe that they should get the shot and if not then stanford should get it. I see zero reason that bama should get a shot........THEY ALREADY FREAKIN HAD ONE!

So if Iowa St was in the national championship game, Okie St wouldn't belong because ISU beat them, but it's ok to give Okie St a shot even though ISU isn't very good at all? That's why a lot of people think Alabama belongs this year.

yes okie st deserves the shot over bama simply because bama already had a shot. it really is as simple as that. and yes that is my opinion.

 

[huKSer]

The problem I have with a rematch is I'm not sure what it's going to prove. If LSU wins again, why didn't another team get a shot? If Alabama wins again, LSU beat them at home and they won on a neutral field. How does that prove which team is better?

I have not argument that those are the two best teams in the country. If you had a four- or eight- team playoff and those teams are in the finals, that's great. The way we have it, someone else should get a shot.

Where are all the people arguing that you shouldn't get to play in the title game if you didn't win your conference?

Because its $EC there is an exemption

 

[redblooded]

It's been a semi-strange season. With only two or three really good teams and all with weaknesses. I think between the conference moves, the Wisconsin blowout, penn state scandal, the defense, and not making it to the championship it has been nearly constant distraction or disappointment from the start of the season... It just kinda wears on the excitement level.

Nationally? I don't care about that much unless the huskers are in the running so I don't know that there is much difference this year, regardless of the probable rematch.

Bowl game, then next year.

 

[husker B-rent]

There is no reason for bama to get a rematch, they lost AT HOME to LSU just a few weeks ago. if this were a playoff then they would be eliminated and frankly people that are against a playoff claim that the regular season is the same as a playoff but if its a rematch then that is not the case and we should clearly have a playoff.

you will never know this season if the SEC is the best conference because they will have mostly only played themselves instead of going out and beating the best from another conference in the title game. The SEC has clearly been down this season with the exception of LSU and Bama and unless they play someone else then i dont see how they can claim to be a NC winner.

I dont care who it is but bama had their shot so give it to another team that deserves a shot just as much as bama does by only having one loss so give the shot to one of those teams. If OkieST wins today then i 100% believe that they should get the shot and if not then stanford should get it. I see zero reason that bama should get a shot........THEY ALREADY FREAKIN HAD ONE!

Actually there are quite a few reasons many of which you can read in this thread from a number of different posters. You might not see them as valid but they exist.

That's not true, we will be able to judge that by looking at their OOC regular season games and other bowl games. The success or failure of a conference does not hinge on one game. If that were true we could say last year's bowl season was a success because OSU won the Sugar.

Stop painting things with such a broad brush.

I have seen zero in this thread to make me, or anyone else that believes they are getting handed the spot because they play in the SEC, change my mind. quite simply if this happens then the game will be a farce because no one can say without a shred of a doubt that bama is the #2 team in the country, just like they cant say it about Okie st, stanford, or VT. however one of these teams has already had a shot whereas the other 3 have not and are because of that more deserving.

Yes you can judge by the bowl season but that has no bearing on a bowl game (MNC) that will be decided before the bowl games are played. As for regular season OOC schedules theirs was no more difficult/successful than any other conference so i dont see how that holds weight.

 

[Excel]

There is no reason for bama to get a rematch, they lost AT HOME to LSU just a few weeks ago. if this were a playoff then they would be eliminated and frankly people that are against a playoff claim that the regular season is the same as a playoff but if its a rematch then that is not the case and we should clearly have a playoff.

you will never know this season if the SEC is the best conference because they will have mostly only played themselves instead of going out and beating the best from another conference in the title game. The SEC has clearly been down this season with the exception of LSU and Bama and unless they play someone else then i dont see how they can claim to be a NC winner.

I dont care who it is but bama had their shot so give it to another team that deserves a shot just as much as bama does by only having one loss so give the shot to one of those teams. If OkieST wins today then i 100% believe that they should get the shot and if not then stanford should get it. I see zero reason that bama should get a shot........THEY ALREADY FREAKIN HAD ONE!

So if Iowa St was in the national championship game, Okie St wouldn't belong because ISU beat them, but it's ok to give Okie St a shot even though ISU isn't very good at all? That's why a lot of people think Alabama belongs this year.

yes okie st deserves the shot over bama simply because bama already had a shot. it really is as simple as that. and yes that is my opinion.

Who's better?

Team A that lost to a 6-5 team on the road by 6 points in overtime and is currently ranked 107 overall in defense

or

Team B that lost to a 12-0 team by 3 in overtime at home and has no statistical category ranked worse than 29th