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[Enhance]

It's also no coincidence that the best team in the league this year, Wisconsin, had a great offensive line to support Wilson and Ball.

 

[sd'sker]

It's also no coincidence that the best team in the league this year, Wisconsin, had a great offensive line to support Wilson and Ball.

this is why burkhead is so unappreciated. he looks so impressive because he has no line. he gets every yard on his own.

 

[knapplc]

It's also no coincidence that the best team in the league this year, Wisconsin, had a great offensive line to support Wilson and Ball.

this is why burkhead is so unappreciated. he looks so impressive because he has no line. he gets every yard on his own.

It's also why Burkhead is better than Montee Ball.

Badgerfan arrives to defend Ball in 3... 2.... 1....

 

[T_O_Bull]

Its the line play. How many yards did Timmie get around the right side behind Wigert and Sti?

T_O_B

G>B>R

 

[Foppa]

As I look back at the season...I'm finding less fault with Martinez's play than I originally may have assigned to him. Like knapplc said...lots of factors. It's actually kind of weird to think that maybe Taylor is getting too smart for his own (or his teams') good. He's learning the routes that his receivers may or may not run. He still throws some bad passes, sure, but how do you not get frustrated when you throw that perfect ball that gets dropped? How do you not get pissed when you change the play and then your line doesn't adjust properly and you get leveled? Obviously you do exactly what the coaches ask of you, but you're out on the field, and learning to read the defenses, and sometimes you're wrong on your calls, but now he's got 2 years of knowledge under his belt to build on his reads. Hope that helps him and makes him a better QB for the next two years.

 

[Excel]

It's also no coincidence that the best team in the league this year, Wisconsin, had a great offensive line to support Wilson and Ball.

this is why burkhead is so unappreciated. he looks so impressive because he has no line. he gets every yard on his own.

It's also why Burkhead is better than Montee Ball.

Badgerfan arrives to defend Ball in 3... 2.... 1....

***Required Badgerfan Rant***

So yea...take that.

chuckleshuffle

 

[Foppa]

It's also no coincidence that the best team in the league this year, Wisconsin, had a great offensive line to support Wilson and Ball.

this is why burkhead is so unappreciated. he looks so impressive because he has no line. he gets every yard on his own.

It's also why Burkhead is better than Montee Ball.

Badgerfan arrives to defend Ball in 3... 2.... 1....

***Required Badgerfan Rant***

So yea...take that.

chuckleshuffle

There must be a Huskerboard hotel around here I don't know about.

 

[knapplc]

It's also no coincidence that the best team in the league this year, Wisconsin, had a great offensive line to support Wilson and Ball.

this is why burkhead is so unappreciated. he looks so impressive because he has no line. he gets every yard on his own.

It's also why Burkhead is better than Montee Ball.

Badgerfan arrives to defend Ball in 3... 2.... 1....

***Required Badgerfan Rant***

So yea...take that.

chuckleshuffle

There must be a Huskerboard hotel around here I don't know about.

That or Badger has some kind of Bat Signal set up for references to himself or Ball. That was his first post on HB since last night, and he made it within five minutes of my post. Scary.

 

[kchusker_chris]

The top teams in the Big Ten have very good QBs and this is the main area, I feel, that is keeping us from being a great team.

To expound upon this point, let's take a look at the top teams in the Big Ten this year:

1. Wisconsin: Russell Wilson, Senior

2. Michigan State: Kirk Cousins, Senior

3. Michigan: Dennard Robinson, Junior

4. Penn State: Matt McGloin, Junior

5. Nebraska: Taylor Martinez, Sophomore

6. Purdue: Caleb TerBush, Junior

7. Iowa: James Vandenberg, Junior

Of the seven most-successful teams in the B1G, six of them started an Upperclassman the majority of their games, if not every game. Nebraska was the lone exception, starting Sophomore Taylor Martinez.

Anyone think there may be a correlation between experience and success?

25 starts doesn't equal experience? "Maturity doesn't just come with age. It comes with fortitude and determination, along with experience" - Ron Brown

 

[Excel]

Lunch Break!

 

[knapplc]

The top teams in the Big Ten have very good QBs and this is the main area, I feel, that is keeping us from being a great team.

To expound upon this point, let's take a look at the top teams in the Big Ten this year:

1. Wisconsin: Russell Wilson, Senior

2. Michigan State: Kirk Cousins, Senior

3. Michigan: Dennard Robinson, Junior

4. Penn State: Matt McGloin, Junior

5. Nebraska: Taylor Martinez, Sophomore

6. Purdue: Caleb TerBush, Junior

7. Iowa: James Vandenberg, Junior

Of the seven most-successful teams in the B1G, six of them started an Upperclassman the majority of their games, if not every game. Nebraska was the lone exception, starting Sophomore Taylor Martinez.

Anyone think there may be a correlation between experience and success?

25 starts doesn't equal experience? "Maturity doesn't just come with age. It comes with fortitude and determination, along with experience" - Ron Brown

"Everyone matures at a different rate" - knapplc

 

[beanman]

The top teams in the Big Ten have very good QBs and this is the main area, I feel, that is keeping us from being a great team.

To expound upon this point, let's take a look at the top teams in the Big Ten this year:

1. Wisconsin: Russell Wilson, Senior

2. Michigan State: Kirk Cousins, Senior

3. Michigan: Dennard Robinson, Junior

4. Penn State: Matt McGloin, Junior

5. Nebraska: Taylor Martinez, Sophomore

6. Purdue: Caleb TerBush, Junior

7. Iowa: James Vandenberg, Junior

Of the seven most-successful teams in the B1G, six of them started an Upperclassman the majority of their games, if not every game. Nebraska was the lone exception, starting Sophomore Taylor Martinez.

Anyone think there may be a correlation between experience and success?

25 starts doesn't equal experience? "Maturity doesn't just come with age. It comes with fortitude and determination, along with experience" - Ron Brown

"Everyone matures at a different rate" - knapplc

It's true. Knapp didn't have hair on his body until he was 25. Bazinga!

 

[kchusker_chris]

The top teams in the Big Ten have very good QBs and this is the main area, I feel, that is keeping us from being a great team.

To expound upon this point, let's take a look at the top teams in the Big Ten this year:

1. Wisconsin: Russell Wilson, Senior

2. Michigan State: Kirk Cousins, Senior

3. Michigan: Dennard Robinson, Junior

4. Penn State: Matt McGloin, Junior

5. Nebraska: Taylor Martinez, Sophomore

6. Purdue: Caleb TerBush, Junior

7. Iowa: James Vandenberg, Junior

Of the seven most-successful teams in the B1G, six of them started an Upperclassman the majority of their games, if not every game. Nebraska was the lone exception, starting Sophomore Taylor Martinez.

Anyone think there may be a correlation between experience and success?

25 starts doesn't equal experience? "Maturity doesn't just come with age. It comes with fortitude and determination, along with experience" - Ron Brown

"Everyone matures at a different rate" - knapplc

"we need to find quarterbacks that don't require 2 full seasons of starts to finally mature." 'the' kchusker_chris

Honestly though...not many teams get a quarterback w/ 25 starts. I'd say that's about average and then they graduate. Taylor had 26, Ganz had about 18. Most guys get their two years and they are out. Taylor's had 2 years...and he's no where near the level I would expect him to be at after 25 starts. He's improved dramatically this year though, but 25 starts...that's an entire career for most guys.

 

[knapplc]

The top teams in the Big Ten have very good QBs and this is the main area, I feel, that is keeping us from being a great team.

To expound upon this point, let's take a look at the top teams in the Big Ten this year:

1. Wisconsin: Russell Wilson, Senior

2. Michigan State: Kirk Cousins, Senior

3. Michigan: Dennard Robinson, Junior

4. Penn State: Matt McGloin, Junior

5. Nebraska: Taylor Martinez, Sophomore

6. Purdue: Caleb TerBush, Junior

7. Iowa: James Vandenberg, Junior

Of the seven most-successful teams in the B1G, six of them started an Upperclassman the majority of their games, if not every game. Nebraska was the lone exception, starting Sophomore Taylor Martinez.

Anyone think there may be a correlation between experience and success?

25 starts doesn't equal experience? "Maturity doesn't just come with age. It comes with fortitude and determination, along with experience" - Ron Brown

"Everyone matures at a different rate" - knapplc

"we need to find quarterbacks that don't require 2 full seasons of starts to finally mature." 'the' kchusker_chris

Honestly though...not many teams get a quarterback w/ 25 starts. I'd say that's about average and then they graduate. Taylor had 26, Ganz had about 18. Most guys get their two years and they are out. Taylor's had 2 years...and he's no where near the level I would expect him to be at after 25 starts. He's improved dramatically this year though, but 25 starts...that's an entire career for most guys.

But most of those guys you're talking about get those 25 starts in their Junior and Senior years. It's right there in the Ron Brown quote "...along with experience." There is no way to replace experience. Taylor, as an underclassman, has less. Less time in practice, less reps, less overall experience.

How many teams win their conference with a freshman or sophomore QB? How many win BCS games? How many win the MNC? I'm going to go out on a limb and predict, without doing the research, that most of the teams who've done those things have Junior or Senior QBs. I'd even venture to say it's greater than 80%.

 

[junior4949]

The QB is not the problem. I've come to understand that the OL is not the problem. The defense isn't totally the problem either. Our biggest problem is mental. We played pretty darn good football for a quarter and a half against Wisconsin only to get blown out. We did the same against South Carolina. When the tough got going, we packed our suitcases. This team is mentally soft. The OL was blocking rather well against South Carolina. At one time I thought most of the offense's problem was the OL, but I don't really think it is. They play great for a while until something bad happens, and then they fold. Receivers start dropping balls. It's the entire team that seems to fold. We are our own worst enemy. Watching Clemson get schooled by West Virginia last night reminded me of how we played a few games this year.