How good can we be with TM under center next year?

[robsker]

Nebraska will probably have 9-10 wins max based on nothing more than talent as long as Taylor is the starting QB. He just doesn't have the arm or mental ability to read and beat defenses.

Being limited to 9 or 10 wins next season will be based upon more than the "talent" (lack thereof) for the Huskers. I'd say more to the point is that the limitations stem more fully from a coaching problem --- the inability of this staff to motivate the players to play 4 quarters of focused, aggressive football on both sides of the ball each game. This staff has not produced a team that is disciplined or fundamentally sound --- the penalties, the missed assignments, the dropped passes, the running around before the snap trying to figure out who is where and what they are doing. The staff has routinely failed to make half-time adjustments or counter the adjustments of the our opponents. The roster management issues of moving players around to play a position for a game or two and then yank them never to be seen again. The lack of development of sound mechanics on the OL and at QB. The list goes on. Talent issues are nowhere near the totality regarding what limits this team. Coaching is an even bigger issue. These things are, theoretically, fixable. Therein lies the hope. But lack of talent is not the exclusive issue --- or even the main issue. Coaching is the main issue. Lets hope it gets better. Much better... quickly.

 

[melscott62]

Nebraska will probably have 9-10 wins max based on nothing more than talent as long as Taylor is the starting QB. He just doesn't have the arm or mental ability to read and beat defenses.

Being limited to 9 or 10 wins next season will be based upon more than the "talent" (lack thereof) for the Huskers. I'd say more to the point is that the limitations stem more fully from a coaching problem --- the inability of this staff to motivate the players to play 4 quarters of focused, aggressive football on both sides of the ball each game. This staff has not produced a team that is disciplined or fundamentally sound --- the penalties, the missed assignments, the dropped passes, the running around before the snap trying to figure out who is where and what they are doing. The staff has routinely failed to make half-time adjustments or counter the adjustments of the our opponents. The roster management issues of moving players around to play a position for a game or two and then yank them never to be seen again. The lack of development of sound mechanics on the OL and at QB. The list goes on. Talent issues are nowhere near the totality regarding what limits this team. Coaching is an even bigger issue. These things are, theoretically, fixable. Therein lies the hope. But lack of talent is not the exclusive issue --- or even the main issue. Coaching is the main issue. Lets hope it gets better. Much better... quickly.

I think it will. IMO this is where having To in the background will help. I also think that the defense will look totally different. I am going nothing more than my gut here, but I think that Bo let his brother have a lot more control because A)he wanted to say he was the D coord so he could get a HC job, and B) bo was getting pressure to not focus on the D so much and be a "head coach" I think you will see Bo have his hand in the D more, and see the defense look more like it did the first few years he was here

 

[HuskerShark]

I agree Mel. I don't think that was the reason necessarily that the defense was less than expected this year. I would say it was more of an inexperience in the secondary and ineffective D-Line play.

I can't see any way that the defense is any worse than it was last season like I've heard so many people on here mention. Yes, we lose the two best players from the defense in Dennard and David, but maturation in every other level of the defense should mean improvement in the defense by next season. We should have plenty of depth on the D-Line, so the defense basically hinges on who fills the LB and CB spots left open. I am confident that we will have people step up and make the defense better than we saw in the 2011 season.

 

[Hunter94]

Nebraska will probably have 9-10 wins max based on nothing more than talent as long as Taylor is the starting QB. He just doesn't have the arm or mental ability to read and beat defenses.

Being limited to 9 or 10 wins next season will be based upon more than the "talent" (lack thereof) for the Huskers. I'd say more to the point is that the limitations stem more fully from a coaching problem --- the inability of this staff to motivate the players to play 4 quarters of focused, aggressive football on both sides of the ball each game. This staff has not produced a team that is disciplined or fundamentally sound --- the penalties, the missed assignments, the dropped passes, the running around before the snap trying to figure out who is where and what they are doing. The staff has routinely failed to make half-time adjustments or counter the adjustments of the our opponents. The roster management issues of moving players around to play a position for a game or two and then yank them never to be seen again. The lack of development of sound mechanics on the OL and at QB. The list goes on. Talent issues are nowhere near the totality regarding what limits this team. Coaching is an even bigger issue. These things are, theoretically, fixable. Therein lies the hope. But lack of talent is not the exclusive issue --- or even the main issue. Coaching is the main issue. Lets hope it gets better. Much better... quickly.

i guess Corey Raymond doesn't see it that way.......at least for the DB's.

 

[robsker]

Nebraska will probably have 9-10 wins max based on nothing more than talent as long as Taylor is the starting QB. He just doesn't have the arm or mental ability to read and beat defenses.

Being limited to 9 or 10 wins next season will be based upon more than the "talent" (lack thereof) for the Huskers. I'd say more to the point is that the limitations stem more fully from a coaching problem --- the inability of this staff to motivate the players to play 4 quarters of focused, aggressive football on both sides of the ball each game. This staff has not produced a team that is disciplined or fundamentally sound --- the penalties, the missed assignments, the dropped passes, the running around before the snap trying to figure out who is where and what they are doing. The staff has routinely failed to make half-time adjustments or counter the adjustments of the our opponents. The roster management issues of moving players around to play a position for a game or two and then yank them never to be seen again. The lack of development of sound mechanics on the OL and at QB. The list goes on. Talent issues are nowhere near the totality regarding what limits this team. Coaching is an even bigger issue. These things are, theoretically, fixable. Therein lies the hope. But lack of talent is not the exclusive issue --- or even the main issue. Coaching is the main issue. Lets hope it gets better. Much better... quickly.

i guess Corey Raymond doesn't see it that way.......at least for the DB's.

Well no... he is a coach. Why blame yourself if you can give excuses that center the blame on others?

 

[bshirt]

Nebraska will probably have 9-10 wins max based on nothing more than talent as long as Taylor is the starting QB. He just doesn't have the arm or mental ability to read and beat defenses.

I'm quite curious where you guys get the "Tmart doesn't have the mental ability to read & beat defenses". The crowd always sagely agree to it and move onwards but it's wayyyyyy over my head. I honestly didn't see that this year so help me please? What the heck it that based on? Anything factual at all?

Everything I've heard is just the opposite and that's precisely why he buried Carnes this year. Maybe that's all wrong and Beck & Bo are just stupid? As far as "beating" defenses it sure seems it would be glaringly obvious to even the most casual NU fan that our Oline stuffed with walk-on players had their problems beating many Dlines this year (duh!) & our wrs weren't exactly J. Rice or F. Biletnikoff catching the ball (just like last year.....and the year before) to say the very, very least. Do ya think that just might have something to do with it? At minimum I would think watching SuperRex breaking about 800 tackles behind the LOS this year might give a small clue? A very tiny clue maybe?

But it's really just Tmart being unable to read or beat a defense.....gotcha. Again, please help me with understanding that. Thank you, my kind sir.

 

[melscott62]

Nebraska will probably have 9-10 wins max based on nothing more than talent as long as Taylor is the starting QB. He just doesn't have the arm or mental ability to read and beat defenses.

Being limited to 9 or 10 wins next season will be based upon more than the "talent" (lack thereof) for the Huskers. I'd say more to the point is that the limitations stem more fully from a coaching problem --- the inability of this staff to motivate the players to play 4 quarters of focused, aggressive football on both sides of the ball each game. This staff has not produced a team that is disciplined or fundamentally sound --- the penalties, the missed assignments, the dropped passes, the running around before the snap trying to figure out who is where and what they are doing. The staff has routinely failed to make half-time adjustments or counter the adjustments of the our opponents. The roster management issues of moving players around to play a position for a game or two and then yank them never to be seen again. The lack of development of sound mechanics on the OL and at QB. The list goes on. Talent issues are nowhere near the totality regarding what limits this team. Coaching is an even bigger issue. These things are, theoretically, fixable. Therein lies the hope. But lack of talent is not the exclusive issue --- or even the main issue. Coaching is the main issue. Lets hope it gets better. Much better... quickly.

i guess Corey Raymond doesn't see it that way.......at least for the DB's.

if raymond actually felt that way he would never of actually said that... was clearly to motivate the guys we have. either that or hes just stupid. it would be like telling your wife she looks fat

 

[robsker]

Nebraska will probably have 9-10 wins max based on nothing more than talent as long as Taylor is the starting QB. He just doesn't have the arm or mental ability to read and beat defenses.

Being limited to 9 or 10 wins next season will be based upon more than the "talent" (lack thereof) for the Huskers. I'd say more to the point is that the limitations stem more fully from a coaching problem --- the inability of this staff to motivate the players to play 4 quarters of focused, aggressive football on both sides of the ball each game. This staff has not produced a team that is disciplined or fundamentally sound --- the penalties, the missed assignments, the dropped passes, the running around before the snap trying to figure out who is where and what they are doing. The staff has routinely failed to make half-time adjustments or counter the adjustments of the our opponents. The roster management issues of moving players around to play a position for a game or two and then yank them never to be seen again. The lack of development of sound mechanics on the OL and at QB. The list goes on. Talent issues are nowhere near the totality regarding what limits this team. Coaching is an even bigger issue. These things are, theoretically, fixable. Therein lies the hope. But lack of talent is not the exclusive issue --- or even the main issue. Coaching is the main issue. Lets hope it gets better. Much better... quickly.

i guess Corey Raymond doesn't see it that way.......at least for the DB's.

if raymond actually felt that way he would never of actually said that... was clearly to motivate the guys we have. either that or hes just stupid. it would be like telling your wife she looks fat

Precisely how does publicly ridiculing your players by intimating that they lack talent motivate your players? Of the two options you forwarded... I assume the latter rather than the former.

 

[huskerscott]

Good gawd! This thing is still going.

 

[Hunter94]

Nebraska will probably have 9-10 wins max based on nothing more than talent as long as Taylor is the starting QB. He just doesn't have the arm or mental ability to read and beat defenses.

Being limited to 9 or 10 wins next season will be based upon more than the "talent" (lack thereof) for the Huskers. I'd say more to the point is that the limitations stem more fully from a coaching problem --- the inability of this staff to motivate the players to play 4 quarters of focused, aggressive football on both sides of the ball each game. This staff has not produced a team that is disciplined or fundamentally sound --- the penalties, the missed assignments, the dropped passes, the running around before the snap trying to figure out who is where and what they are doing. The staff has routinely failed to make half-time adjustments or counter the adjustments of the our opponents. The roster management issues of moving players around to play a position for a game or two and then yank them never to be seen again. The lack of development of sound mechanics on the OL and at QB. The list goes on. Talent issues are nowhere near the totality regarding what limits this team. Coaching is an even bigger issue. These things are, theoretically, fixable. Therein lies the hope. But lack of talent is not the exclusive issue --- or even the main issue. Coaching is the main issue. Lets hope it gets better. Much better... quickly.

i guess Corey Raymond doesn't see it that way.......at least for the DB's.

if raymond actually felt that way he would never of actually said that... was clearly to motivate the guys we have. either that or hes just stupid. it would be like telling your wife she looks fat

Precisely how does publicly ridiculing your players by intimating that they lack talent motivate your players? Of the two options you forwarded... I assume the latter rather than the former.

Raymond's post is buried in here somewhere.......not sure where, but i thought it was pretty pointed to the lack of athleticism our DBs possessed...so, yes.......your wife is a bit of a fatass!

 

[zoogs]

Precisely how does publicly ridiculing your players by intimating that they lack talent motivate your players? Of the two options you forwarded... I assume the latter rather than the former.

He wasn't publicly ridiculing. He was pointing to the fact that they are not as athletic as our opponents and couldn't rely on the reputation of our past DBs here in '10 and '11. Coaches send messages in a variety of ways and it actually isn't all coddling, all the time...

 

[melscott62]

Nebraska will probably have 9-10 wins max based on nothing more than talent as long as Taylor is the starting QB. He just doesn't have the arm or mental ability to read and beat defenses.

Being limited to 9 or 10 wins next season will be based upon more than the "talent" (lack thereof) for the Huskers. I'd say more to the point is that the limitations stem more fully from a coaching problem --- the inability of this staff to motivate the players to play 4 quarters of focused, aggressive football on both sides of the ball each game. This staff has not produced a team that is disciplined or fundamentally sound --- the penalties, the missed assignments, the dropped passes, the running around before the snap trying to figure out who is where and what they are doing. The staff has routinely failed to make half-time adjustments or counter the adjustments of the our opponents. The roster management issues of moving players around to play a position for a game or two and then yank them never to be seen again. The lack of development of sound mechanics on the OL and at QB. The list goes on. Talent issues are nowhere near the totality regarding what limits this team. Coaching is an even bigger issue. These things are, theoretically, fixable. Therein lies the hope. But lack of talent is not the exclusive issue --- or even the main issue. Coaching is the main issue. Lets hope it gets better. Much better... quickly.

i guess Corey Raymond doesn't see it that way.......at least for the DB's.

if raymond actually felt that way he would never of actually said that... was clearly to motivate the guys we have. either that or hes just stupid. it would be like telling your wife she looks fat

Precisely how does publicly ridiculing your players by intimating that they lack talent motivate your players? Of the two options you forwarded... I assume the latter rather than the former.

I think it is a poor choice for motivation. but you do see how that would be motivating...right?

 

[robsker]

No... not really. I'd think it would be insulting and would incline me to distrust the man and it would not incline me to respect the coach. As a player, I'd see it as a cowardly thing for the coach to do. How might such a thing motivate?

 

[TheW0rld]

I think it is a poor choice for motivation. but you do see how that would be motivating...right?

I think that supposition gives Raymond way too much credit for forethought before he said what he said in frustration directly after the bowl game. I didn't see it as a pre-considered motivational tactic but rather just a frustrated and inexperienced coach spouting off saying things he shouldn't have said.

 

[Hunter94]

I think it is a poor choice for motivation. but you do see how that would be motivating...right?

I think that supposition gives Raymond way too much credit for forethought before he said what he said in frustration directly after the bowl game. I didn't see it as a pre-considered motivational tactic but rather just a frustrated and inexperienced coach spouting off saying things he shouldn't have said.

and that's about it.......he didn't mean anything by it, really.........right Corey?