NEW DB coach= return to physical

[TheW0rld]

Raymond leaving was a plus......

^^^This^^^^

 

[MLB 51]

You do the hokey pokey

and you turn yourself around

That's what it's all about.

I've often wondered, is the "it" they are referring to merely the hokey pokey, or to life in general?

Why can't it be both?

"It" is the hokey pokey, which is, of course, the meaning of life.

I thought Shawn Watson was the meaning of life.

 

[HuskerFowler]

Did all of you forget the quote where Dennard said he learned more about CB from Raymond in one year then he had in his enrire life. Love Husker fans.

 

[Landlord]

Did anybody else notice that the B1G officials let us get away with just as much as we always have last year? After every single conference game there would be threads on opposing team's boards about how our secondary flat-out mugged their receivers and never got called. Love it

 

[Lil' Red]

I prefer the more physical approach. The referees seem to rarely strictly enforce pass interference rules so I don't see why we shouldn't use that to our benefit.

 

[Husker from Kansas]

referees dont ever enforce pass interference in the first 5 yards anyways

 

[scarletNcream]

I never heard Raymond didn't think good DB's played with their hands - was there a link or reference to that somewhere in the past?

I do remember Pelini saying in the pre-season last year that he thought the B1G might call games a little differently than the Big 12, therefore, his DB's may not get away with as much contact as they did before. However, as the season went on, our DB's got better. I think this had a lot to do with the repetitions and amount of experience those guys got, but I also thought the coaches and DB's started getting more physical as the year went on, as they realize the B1G wasn't going to be calling the games very differently.

Here's an article about it. There was more press and plenty of talk on the board and quite frankly I am glad he (Raymond) left. Fonsie tells the story...

http://my.journalstar.com/post/Husker_Extra_Group/Husker_Extra/blog/dennard_faces_challenging_adjustment.html

 

[Treand3]

Right. Which was why the move away from the physicallity of our CBs was inapporiate.

 

[I am I]

Raymond brought an NFL mentality to the college level. Well guess what, this isn't the NFL, and most of our guys aren't going to the NFL. We were insanely lucky to have Prince, Gomes, Hagg, and Dennard be NFL caliber, whom could be taught a more skilled technique.

Most receivers aren't going pro either, they aren't good enough. So why not teach a technique that has maximum benefit at the COLLEGE level? And for us,that seems to be the jamming/physical type.

 

[zoogs]

Raymond brought an NFL mentality to the college level.

 

I hate this sentiment. Bo is an NFL guy. He's been quoted as 'running the team like an NFL team' in some article about NFL personnel talking about college coaches who could make the jump.

 

The reality is Fonzie never moved away from physical technique or bump and run. Our other guys just couldn't handle it.

 

[HuskerFowler]

I never heard Raymond didn't think good DB's played with their hands - was there a link or reference to that somewhere in the past?

I do remember Pelini saying in the pre-season last year that he thought the B1G might call games a little differently than the Big 12, therefore, his DB's may not get away with as much contact as they did before. However, as the season went on, our DB's got better. I think this had a lot to do with the repetitions and amount of experience those guys got, but I also thought the coaches and DB's started getting more physical as the year went on, as they realize the B1G wasn't going to be calling the games very differently.

Here's an article about it. There was more press and plenty of talk on the board and quite frankly I am glad he (Raymond) left. Fonsie tells the story...

http://my.journalsta...adjustment.html

Ok but that was before the season.

This after the season.

"I've learned a lot from him, more than I did from coach (Marvin) Sanders," Dennard says of the former Husker secondary coach. "Not knocking Coach Sanders at all — he was a very good coach. But Coach Raymond, he taught me a lot of things with my technique."

http://huskerextra.com/sports/football/article_19a37718-e42a-53e2-971d-a453dc58fe27.html

Cant find where he said he learned more from Raymond in one year then he has his entire life. but its out there. Raymond is a great coach, like it or not. He was teaching them technique to go along with being physical. I dont really like him either because of how he left, saying he wouldnt go and then left anyway, but there is no denying he was a great coach. I find it amusing that some are arguing that this is not the NFL so our corners dont need to know NFL techniqes...why and the hell would you not want to be the best you can possibly be? Who cares if your going up against the worst WR this week, next week you could have Justin Blackmon, or Alshon Jeffery. Some of you are beyond ignorant, just because he left the all mighty NU he is a bad coach, good ridance you all say. ..Hilarious.

 

[HuskerFowler]

Raymond brought an NFL mentality to the college level.

 

I hate this sentiment. Bo is an NFL guy. He's been quoted as 'running the team like an NFL team' in some article about NFL personnel talking about college coaches who could make the jump.

 

The reality is Fonzie never moved away from physical technique or bump and run. Our other guys just couldn't handle it.

 

 

Exactly

 

[The Dude]

but there is no denying he was a great coach

One player talking up his position coach does not a great coach make.

He's done absolutely nothing at this point in his career to be considered a great coach.

 

[scarletNcream]

I for one could care less if Coach Raymond lied and left. I was merely pointing out an article about him getting away from being physical and going to a more technical style of defense, after all, thats what the poster asked. I, as a fan, was not pleased with the results and I really don't see him flurishing at LSU only because I don't think their DB's will retain the info. Especially if you are scoring 4's on a Wonderlic. Heres an example of some questions:

The Wonderlic Personnel Test ™

WPT ™ Sample Questions

1. Look at the row of numbers below. What number should come next? 8 4 2 1 ½ ¼ ?

2. Assume the first two statements are true. Is the final one: 1. true, 2. false, 3. not certain?

The boy plays baseball. All baseball players wear hats. The boy wears a hat.

3. Paper sells for 21 cents per pad. What will four pads cost?

How did you score? a 3 I hope.

 

[HuskerFowler]

And i pointed out an article straight from raymonds mouth saying he was teaching both. Disproving the notion that he was getting away from being physical. Like he said you need to be able to do both...physical and finese...i think he would know