Early expectations for this year.

Urban Meyer's a helluva coach. No point ignoring that fact.

agree and he has the horses right now to ride.......we will lose this one.
I actually agree with you that I think we lose to Ohio State, not because we can't win, but because it is on the road and Bo's defenses always struggle against mobile QBs. Because Bo just doesn't blitz and it's literally stupid not to. Last season Michigan State blitzed Dennard Robinson and won. We layed back in coverage and got rolled. Of course there were other unfortunate instances as well but it does make one wonder why Bo doesn't blitz.

 
Urban Meyer's a helluva coach. No point ignoring that fact.

agree and he has the horses right now to ride.......we will lose this one.
I actually agree with you that I think we lose to Ohio State, not because we can't win, but because it is on the road and Bo's defenses always struggle against mobile QBs. Because Bo just doesn't blitz and it's literally stupid not to. Last season Michigan State blitzed Dennard Robinson and won. We layed back in coverage and got rolled. Of course there were other unfortunate instances as well but it does make one wonder why Bo doesn't blitz.
I don't get it either. He sure blitzed SuperD a lot in 2003. But not since then.....

 
This is why we went out and got Rick Kaczenski from the Iowegians. Kaczenski's D-Line helped beat Denard Robinson the last two years. They did it by bringing pressure on him, not trying to contain him.

I am hopeful that the hiring of Kaczenski heralds a change in Bo's D-Line philosophy. I'm hoping Bo is deciding to create more pressure with an aggressive line, with a LB held back to cover the scramble.

 
Urban Meyer's a helluva coach. No point ignoring that fact.

agree and he has the horses right now to ride.......we will lose this one.
I really have reservations regarding Urban Meyer. If he were such a great coach then why did he leave Florida in such a poor position? Why did he really leave Florida. Here is one report:

"The Florida Gators program suffered through a very down season a year ago, and did so in Urban Meyer’s final year in 2010. Now there is a report in the Sporting News that Urban fractured the program prior to leaving, and now it is scrambling to put things back together."

and another when he took the position at Ohio State:

"

During yesterday’s presser in Columbus, if you go over


his transcript

, Meyer gave more examples of his wishy-washyness (google it). He said that part of the reason he left his Florida job is because he didn’t like what was going on in college football. So less than two years later, he joins the most-publicly corrupted program (save Jerry Sandusky and Penn State) of 2011.


OSU only had ten-plus players suspended

for either selling memorabilia for tattoos or accepting improper benefits. So if you don’t like the nature of the corruption that litters college football, why would you go to the 2011 epicenter? Meyer said that he thought about coaching in the Ivy League or for one of the service academies because of the lack of politics and corruption. So why didn’t he do that? The Buckeyes gave him 24 million reasons not to. They don’t put a dollar in O$U for nothing."


http://itsalwayssunnyindetroit.com/2011/11/is-urban-meyer-a-phony/.html

and more:

"In six seasons at Florida, Meyer won 65 games and guided the Gators to BCS national championships during the 2006 and 2008 seasons.

But Ohio State isn't hiring that coach.The Buckeyes are hiring a coach who went 8-5 in his final season as Florida's coach and left behind an even worse team for his successor.After Meyer won two national championships in three seasons with former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow, perhaps the greatest player in modern college football history, Meyer left as soon as the Gators started struggling."

http://espn.go.com/college-football/story/_/id/7291138/former-florida-gators-coach-urban-meyer-short-term-solution-ohio-state-buckeyes

So is he really that great? Or is he only great when he has good players? I don't know. I kind of feel sorry for Ohio St. if they hire him and then when they start to falter he jumps ship on them. Hopefully, that won't happen. It would be fun to be able to beat them while he is their coach. I just don't trust the guy. Glad he's not our coach.

 
This is why we went out and got Rick Kaczenski from the Iowegians. Kaczenski's D-Line helped beat Denard Robinson the last two years. They did it by bringing pressure on him, not trying to contain him.

I am hopeful that the hiring of Kaczenski heralds a change in Bo's D-Line philosophy. I'm hoping Bo is deciding to create more pressure with an aggressive line, with a LB held back to cover the scramble.
I'm hoping to see more power on the line too. Do you think any of that had to do with Carl being the DC? Just curious.

 
ladyhawke said:
Hunter94 said:
Guy Chamberlin said:
Urban Meyer's a helluva coach. No point ignoring that fact.

agree and he has the horses right now to ride.......we will lose this one.
I really have reservations regarding Urban Meyer. If he were such a great coach then why did he leave Florida in such a poor position? Why did he really leave Florida. Here is one report:

"The Florida Gators program suffered through a very down season a year ago, and did so in Urban Meyer’s final year in 2010. Now there is a report in the Sporting News that Urban fractured the program prior to leaving, and now it is scrambling to put things back together."

and another when he took the position at Ohio State:

"

During yesterday’s presser in Columbus, if you go over



his transcript

, Meyer gave more examples of his wishy-washyness (google it). He said that part of the reason he left his Florida job is because he didn’t like what was going on in college football. So less than two years later, he joins the most-publicly corrupted program (save Jerry Sandusky and Penn State) of 2011.



OSU only had ten-plus players suspended

for either selling memorabilia for tattoos or accepting improper benefits. So if you don’t like the nature of the corruption that litters college football, why would you go to the 2011 epicenter? Meyer said that he thought about coaching in the Ivy League or for one of the service academies because of the lack of politics and corruption. So why didn’t he do that? The Buckeyes gave him 24 million reasons not to. They don’t put a dollar in O$U for nothing."




http://itsalwayssunn...r-a-phony/.html

and more:

"In six seasons at Florida, Meyer won 65 games and guided the Gators to BCS national championships during the 2006 and 2008 seasons.

But Ohio State isn't hiring that coach.The Buckeyes are hiring a coach who went 8-5 in his final season as Florida's coach and left behind an even worse team for his successor.After Meyer won two national championships in three seasons with former Florida quarterback Tim Tebow, perhaps the greatest player in modern college football history, Meyer left as soon as the Gators started struggling."

http://espn.go.com/c...-state-buckeyes

So is he really that great? Or is he only great when he has good players? I don't know. I kind of feel sorry for Ohio St. if they hire him and then when they start to falter he jumps ship on them. Hopefully, that won't happen. It would be fun to be able to beat them while he is their coach. I just don't trust the guy. Glad he's not our coach.
Good articles. The truth is Urban Meyer is a an opportunist. Luke Fickell, after giving a senior QB a shot the first 4, gambled and put in Braxton Miller who, like every other freshman quarterback, took his lumps. It's interesting that Meyer, for some strange reason, didn't want the OSU job after Tressell was fired. He let's some other schmuck take the heat the first season and then after the turmoil calms down he then swoops in. My guess? Meyer will conveniently have "health problems" right about the time Braxton Miller leaves.

 
ladyhawke said:
knapplc said:
This is why we went out and got Rick Kaczenski from the Iowegians. Kaczenski's D-Line helped beat Denard Robinson the last two years. They did it by bringing pressure on him, not trying to contain him.

I am hopeful that the hiring of Kaczenski heralds a change in Bo's D-Line philosophy. I'm hoping Bo is deciding to create more pressure with an aggressive line, with a LB held back to cover the scramble.
I'm hoping to see more power on the line too. Do you think any of that had to do with Carl being the DC? Just curious.
I'm completely on board with this as well. Hoping Kaz influences the play of the defensive line. Though, do we have reason to believe that a position coach really has an effect on the defensive philosophy? I mean, Bo's defenses don't seem to be attacking defenses..........Will Kaz be able to change that? I have to say I highly doubt it, but I will be very pleasantly surprised if he does. I see the lack of pressure up front as one of the biggest problems facing this defense. If we unleash the front four, I believe everything behind them will instantly look improved.

 
They used to be, that is the whole reason he was hired, his history here and at Oklahoma and LSU indicates the should be. But does he have the talent needed is the question I guess.

 
ladyhawke said:
knapplc said:
This is why we went out and got Rick Kaczenski from the Iowegians. Kaczenski's D-Line helped beat Denard Robinson the last two years. They did it by bringing pressure on him, not trying to contain him.

I am hopeful that the hiring of Kaczenski heralds a change in Bo's D-Line philosophy. I'm hoping Bo is deciding to create more pressure with an aggressive line, with a LB held back to cover the scramble.
I'm hoping to see more power on the line too. Do you think any of that had to do with Carl being the DC? Just curious.
I think Carl's final year as DC didn't go the way anyone wished, for many reasons. Losing Carl could be addition by subtraction, but that all depends on how savvy Papuchis is. Papuchis is a complete unknown, and if he requires a year of on-the-job-training like Beck, it could be another slow year for the defense.

 
ladyhawke said:
knapplc said:
This is why we went out and got Rick Kaczenski from the Iowegians. Kaczenski's D-Line helped beat Denard Robinson the last two years. They did it by bringing pressure on him, not trying to contain him.

I am hopeful that the hiring of Kaczenski heralds a change in Bo's D-Line philosophy. I'm hoping Bo is deciding to create more pressure with an aggressive line, with a LB held back to cover the scramble.
I'm hoping to see more power on the line too. Do you think any of that had to do with Carl being the DC? Just curious.
I think Carl's final year as DC didn't go the way anyone wished, for many reasons. Losing Carl could be addition by subtraction, but that all depends on how savvy Papuchis is. Papuchis is a complete unknown, and if he requires a year of on-the-job-training like Beck, it could be another slow year for the defense.
I think losing Carl is a good thing, at least from the perspective of recruiting and off the field distractions. There seemed to be some issues there.

 
ladyhawke said:
knapplc said:
This is why we went out and got Rick Kaczenski from the Iowegians. Kaczenski's D-Line helped beat Denard Robinson the last two years. They did it by bringing pressure on him, not trying to contain him.

I am hopeful that the hiring of Kaczenski heralds a change in Bo's D-Line philosophy. I'm hoping Bo is deciding to create more pressure with an aggressive line, with a LB held back to cover the scramble.
I'm hoping to see more power on the line too. Do you think any of that had to do with Carl being the DC? Just curious.
I think Carl's final year as DC didn't go the way anyone wished, for many reasons. Losing Carl could be addition by subtraction, but that all depends on how savvy Papuchis is. Papuchis is a complete unknown, and if he requires a year of on-the-job-training like Beck, it could be another slow year for the defense.
I think losing Carl is a good thing, at least from the perspective of recruiting and off the field distractions. There seemed to be some issues there.
Bo has always been very involved with the Defense. Until last year, Carl's hands had been tied with what he could do... if you remember right, there was a time before last season when Bo "re-organized" Carl's duty's. He basically was letting Carl call plays and make decisions for the first time. So the great defenses we've had under Bo have been Bo defenses not Carl defenses. I am very confident that Bo will do the same this year... thus we have nothing to worry about. JP will do what he can do and what he can't Bo will take over and make it happen.

 
Bo has always been very involved with the Defense. Until last year, Carl's hands had been tied with what he could do... if you remember right, there was a time before last season when Bo "re-organized" Carl's duty's. He basically was letting Carl call plays and make decisions for the first time. So the great defenses we've had under Bo have been Bo defenses not Carl defenses. I am very confident that Bo will do the same this year... thus we have nothing to worry about. JP will do what he can do and what he can't Bo will take over and make it happen.
That defense was terribly ineffective last year, and Bo was in the meeting room and on the sideline with a hand in every call. We can't simply assume that he's going to wave a wand and fix all of our problems.

 
Bo is not god, some need to understand that. Bo is doing the best he can, still learning, along with darned near every coach on the team. I think we have a lot of problems this year, OL DL LB's and depth in all of those areas. Plus this is the first year that most of Bo's players hit the field, we will soon see what kind of recruting job has been done.

 
ladyhawke said:
knapplc said:
This is why we went out and got Rick Kaczenski from the Iowegians. Kaczenski's D-Line helped beat Denard Robinson the last two years. They did it by bringing pressure on him, not trying to contain him.

I am hopeful that the hiring of Kaczenski heralds a change in Bo's D-Line philosophy. I'm hoping Bo is deciding to create more pressure with an aggressive line, with a LB held back to cover the scramble.
I'm hoping to see more power on the line too. Do you think any of that had to do with Carl being the DC? Just curious.
I think Carl's final year as DC didn't go the way anyone wished, for many reasons. Losing Carl could be addition by subtraction, but that all depends on how savvy Papuchis is. Papuchis is a complete unknown, and if he requires a year of on-the-job-training like Beck, it could be another slow year for the defense.
I think losing Carl is a good thing, at least from the perspective of recruiting and off the field distractions. There seemed to be some issues there.
Bo has always been very involved with the Defense. Until last year, Carl's hands had been tied with what he could do... if you remember right, there was a time before last season when Bo "re-organized" Carl's duty's. He basically was letting Carl call plays and make decisions for the first time. So the great defenses we've had under Bo have been Bo defenses not Carl defenses. I am very confident that Bo will do the same this year... thus we have nothing to worry about. JP will do what he can do and what he can't Bo will take over and make it happen.
and you know all this to be a fact?

 
Bo has always been very involved with the Defense. Until last year, Carl's hands had been tied with what he could do... if you remember right, there was a time before last season when Bo "re-organized" Carl's duty's. He basically was letting Carl call plays and make decisions for the first time. So the great defenses we've had under Bo have been Bo defenses not Carl defenses. I am very confident that Bo will do the same this year... thus we have nothing to worry about. JP will do what he can do and what he can't Bo will take over and make it happen.
and you know all this to be a fact?
I can't say it's fact. But I've heard similar info on other boards.

 
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