Wistrom Disciple Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 23 minutes ago, Undone said: Nope, not even a close comparison. Malachi got screwed over by this staff. Saw this coming the moment Rhule said he was redshirting him. He had eight catches total last year so it wasn't as if we sat an All-American for two transfers. Do I think he would have helped this year? Yes, probably, but I wouldn't say he was screwed over unless you have insider knowledge. Rhule and the staff made a number of redshirting decisions with the future in mind. I don't think it was a bad call if the player would not have been ready to go for roughly half the season. I wonder if this is a testing the waters situation, see what programs come calling. I'd also be curious if this could be tied to seeing Holgorsen's coaching, attitude, etc. in contrast to how it's been with McGuire and Satt. That press conference was pretty revealing, the quip about 'you are big guys, why are you not blocking?' is pretty straightforward and some kids don't response well to that. Considering the biggest knocks on him coming out of high school were consistency with effort and attitude, it wouldn't surprise me if this could play a part. 2 Quote Link to comment
lo country Posted November 21 Author Share Posted November 21 21 minutes ago, Wistrom Disciple said: He had eight catches total last year so it wasn't as if we sat an All-American for two transfers. Do I think he would have helped this year? Yes, probably, but I wouldn't say he was screwed over unless you have insider knowledge. Rhule and the staff made a number of redshirting decisions with the future in mind. I don't think it was a bad call if the player would not have been ready to go for roughly half the season. I wonder if this is a testing the waters situation, see what programs come calling. I'd also be curious if this could be tied to seeing Holgorsen's coaching, attitude, etc. in contrast to how it's been with McGuire and Satt. That press conference was pretty revealing, the quip about 'you are big guys, why are you not blocking?' is pretty straightforward and some kids don't response well to that. Considering the biggest knocks on him coming out of high school were consistency with effort and attitude, it wouldn't surprise me if this could play a part. Short Side Option said this last year watching practices. To paraphrase, "if Coleman would put in the effort he has the tools and intangibles to be all conference. If he works". Seemed to come on towards the end of the year with effort. Who knows. Hope he stays and can get things personally turned around. Portal open 12/9 so unless he leaves he will be on the roster until then. 4 1 Quote Link to comment
Wistrom Disciple Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 1 minute ago, lo country said: Short Side Option said this last year watching practices. To paraphrase, "if Coleman would put in the effort he has the tools and intangibles to be all conference. If he works". Seemed to come on towards the end of the year with effort. Who knows. Hope he stays and can get things personally turned around. Portal open 12/9 so unless he leaves he will be on the roster until then. Totally agree and thank you for that note on the effort. I heard similar things from LPS coaches and some parents from East back when he was a senior. 'Best player on the field if he wants to be.' Seemed to form a strong bond with Dylan in the offseason, so I wonder if the winning cures all will apply here as well. It's been a long six weeks so I'm sure that is wearing on everyone. Also curious if Holgo's arrival and initial critiques of certain position groups indicates that some coaching staff changes are in the near future. McGuire, Thomas, and Barthel seem like good candidates for moving on or to different roles. I hope we simply reduce Satt's salary, but keep him as a tight ends coach. I am impressed with how that group has developed, though I think they have more potential ahead. Truthfully, I've felt that Satt was always the backup OC choice after Peetz passed upon the initial hiring and Holgo passed last winter. Rhule wanted people he trusted, but it always seemed like he was chasing someone else to fill the role, but wanted to ensure whoever did it was someone he trusted. Now, with Holgo here, hopefully he can bring that stability. 2 Quote Link to comment
krc1995 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 14 minutes ago, Mavric said: That’s particularly and curiously circular. That account references huskerboard posts as its source. 2 Quote Link to comment
308_Husker Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 Do we know why he hasn't played at all this year? In a very unproductive year for us at WR, I wonder why we didn't bring him out. 2 1 Quote Link to comment
Huskerfollower4life Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 13 minutes ago, 308_Husker said: Do we know why he hasn't played at all this year? In a very unproductive year for us at WR, I wonder why we didn't bring him out. I don't know I asked the same question when the wr's weren't being productive on the field 1 Quote Link to comment
Toe Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 Supposedly Coleman and Tommi Hill were both told to take their s#!tty attitudes elsewhere. Guess Sean Callahan said Hill will walk on Senior Day, but won't be playing the last two games. Apparently he was getting into it with Butler and calling him a b!^@h, and yeah. (Getting into it with a guy who's pretty well respected in the NFL probably ain't the greatest idea for your draft stock, but...) Might be one or two more on the way. So yeah, add another one to our extensive list of highly rated WRs who amount to little or nothing. Dating back to the Riley era, and starting to look like a CVS receipt at this point. Tyjon Lindsey, Jaevon McQuitty, Keyshawn Jr, Darien Chase, Demariyon Houston, Omar Manning, Alante Brown, Marcus Fleming, Zavier Betts, Malachi Coleman... 3 2 Quote Link to comment
Big Red Viking Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 Not a contributor so it's no loss. Quote Link to comment
floridacorn Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 Without speculating, most young players have unrealistic expectations for themselves, and it's difficult when they don't see their development on an upward trajectory. Asking a player to trust the process requires them to have faith in the process and well, there's not a ton of positivity around the program right now. Pure speculation, the timing of this doesn't seem like a coincidence. When the staff dangles the carrot of the end of the season out for getting redshirting players in the mix and those games come and go without any involvement, it's going to bring potential frustrations to a head. Situations may have changed, and but it doesn't change what's been said, and expectations. Even if the player has a big hand in why situations have changed. I've seen players who are academically ineligible think they are going to get inserted directly into the starting lineup the second they become eligible. Completely unrealistic, but it's still a major letdown for them. Van Popple may be handling this situation better than Coleman, but he was also utilized better than Coleman, and even if that's 100% on Coleman, it's still a fact. Recruiting over players in the portal and redshirting players who've contributed previously is a tight rope act and attrition is going to occur. Next 3 Quote Link to comment
caveman99 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 With the need to get down to 105 players after this year, I would expect a lot more departures after I@wa. Going forward players who don’t show an impact by year 2 will be moved on. It is harsh, but that is the new reality in managing a smaller roster. Malachi hasn’t been able to be an impact for whatever reason, can’t afford to waste a spot on him. 1 3 Quote Link to comment
MyBloodIsRed16 Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 because of the reports of him being "injured" most of the year, I wonder if he's one of those guys who is only injured when he doesn't want to do things. Like he wants reps and wants to play but anytime there is conditioning or drills all of the sudden his hammy is tight. 3 Quote Link to comment
Decked Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 2 hours ago, Big Red Viking said: Not a contributor so it's no loss. Yeah no. He was going to be a very large future contributor. This is just another issue pointing that this staff isn’t going to get the job done here. Instead we trotted out guys who can’t block but also aren’t fast or reliable. 2 5 1 Quote Link to comment
funhusker Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 47 minutes ago, caveman99 said: With the need to get down to 105 players after this year, I would expect a lot more departures after I@wa. Going forward players who don’t show an impact by year 2 will be moved on. It is harsh, but that is the new reality in managing a smaller roster. Malachi hasn’t been able to be an impact for whatever reason, can’t afford to waste a spot on him. This is sad. Football is just better when your impact players are juniors and seniors that were developed as freshmen and sophomores. Quote Link to comment
Big Red Viking Posted November 21 Share Posted November 21 1 hour ago, Decked said: Yeah no. He was going to be a very large future contributor. This is just another issue pointing that this staff isn’t going to get the job done here. Instead we trotted out guys who can’t block but also aren’t fast or reliable. Where is the proof ? If he can't beat out the stiffs playing now what makes you think he will be better in the future ? I'm sure he will be fine playing for the jacks at South Dakota State. 2 2 Quote Link to comment
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