Iowa - What Did We Learn?

[gossamorharpy]

6 minutes ago, lo country said:

I hated Verduzzco, but he'd say DR is a slow blinker.  He continues, IMO, to hold the ball for what he wants and doesn't take what he has.  @Mavric continues to point out has abysmal 20+ completion rate.  I'll add he also has put up stats with his 10+ and IIRC, looks even worse.  I wish he'd grip and rip 5-6 yard routes and hope they'll grind for more yards than  YOLO his 20+ passes...Would love to see Tommy Armstrong percentage on those.  I looked with no luck.

Yep, he also needs to grip and rip the long ball too.  We have a full season of examples of him air mailing deep throw after deep throw after deep throw. Many of these throws a bullet pass is more than enough, particularly the ones where our guy is wide open with no defender within 5 + yards..

 

these are typical challenges working with a true freshman qb 

[lo country]

3 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

TA on 20+ yard throws by year:

2016 - 12/50, 24.0%, 448 yards, 9.0 ypa, 4 TDs, 3 INTs

2015 - 30/85, 35.3%, 969 yards, 11.4 ypa, 8 TDs, 5 INTs

2014 - 23/73, 31.5%, 874 yards, 12.0 ypa, 10 TDs, 4 INTs

 

Thanks!  To compare the above:

Dylan Raiola on throws 20+ yards downfield (2024):

18/51, 35.3%, 557 yards, 11.3 ypa, 2 TDs, 4 INTs

 

Heinrich Haarberg on throws 20+ yards downfield (2023):

7/30, 23.3%, 281 yards, 9.4 ypa, 2 TDs, 4 INTs

 

Tommy "YOLO" Armstrong ladies and gentleman.........I'd like to apologize for repeatedly referring to him as "YOLO" and "Arm Punt".  

[lo country]

1 minute ago, gossamorharpy said:

Yep, he also needs to grip and rip the long ball too.  We have a full season of examples of him air mailing deep throw after deep throw after deep throw. Many of these throws a bullet pass is more than enough, particularly the ones where our guy is wide open with no defender within 5 + yards..

 

these are typical challenges working with a true freshman qb 

Agree.  @Cornbred (IIRC) coined the phrase he throws "lazy".  I think often times the lack of separation is DR throwing lazy and allowing the DB to be closer or in a better position to break on the ball.  

[Huskers93-97]

some guys clamoring for what Deion did. Let’s keep in mind they play on a crappy 2nd tier conference. If Colorado was in the big 10 they would probably be 3-9. 
I think about any plan will work it’s just who is executing the plan 

[Decked]

4 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

some guys clamoring for what Deion did. Let’s keep in mind they play on a crappy 2nd tier conference. If Colorado was in the big 10 they would probably be 3-9. 
I think about any plan will work it’s just who is executing the plan 

The biggest thing we need to do is probably fire Ed, Satt, & demote McGuire to WR analyst 

 

We will find portal fellas. Good coaches are difficult to find. 

[Huskers93-97]

I also learned while our overall record improved from 5-7 to 6-6. We did not improve vs P2 conference competition. 3-6 last year and 3-6 this year. 
 

Improvement should be gauged by who you do it against. Quality opponents is the measuring stick. 

[Undone]

If I'm a defensive upperclassmen, I am pissed at what happened last night. Remember, the defense only gave up 7 points. The other 6 came off of a muffed punt and a fumble by the offense at the worst possible moment.

 

Raiola is going to have to get a lot of coaching in the offseason to greatly up his intensity level in the pocket. I don't think it's accurate to say that he has "bad pocket presence," it's that he is just a little too relaxed.

 

At first this relaxed pocket presence was a breath of fresh air early in the season because we hadn't seen it in years. But then it became a bit of a liability.

 

I would also like to see him taking off running a bit more next year, and also he needs to look for the check down earlier as well.

 

I didn't really have any significant gripes with play calling in this one. The calls were good and our line was dominant almost all night. But I would say, if you get 5 yards on a meat grinder run on 1st down, run that s*** again on 2nd.

[runningblind]

22 minutes ago, Huskers93-97 said:

I also learned while our overall record improved from 5-7 to 6-6. We did not improve vs P2 conference competition. 3-6 last year and 3-6 this year. 
 

Improvement should be gauged by who you do it against. Quality opponents is the measuring stick. 

We beat Colorado, otherwise had the same year.

 

6 minutes ago, Undone said:

If I'm a defensive upperclassmen, I am pissed at what happened last night. Remember, the defense only gave up 7 points. The other 6 came off of a muffed punt and a fumble by the offense at the worst possible moment.

 

Raiola is going to have to get a lot of coaching in the offseason to greatly up his intensity level in the pocket. I don't think it's accurate to say that he has "bad pocket presence," it's that he is just a little too relaxed.

 

At first this relaxed pocket presence was a breath of fresh air early in the season because we hadn't seen it in years. But then it became a bit of a liability.

 

I would also like to see him taking off running a bit more next year, and also he needs to look for the check down earlier as well.

 

I didn't really have any significant gripes with play calling in this one. The calls were good and our line was dominant almost all night. But I would say, if you get 5 yards on a meat grinder run on 1st down, run that s*** again on 2nd.

Raiola will never take the next step unless he fixes his footwork. It is atrocious.

[lo country]

3 minutes ago, runningblind said:

We beat Colorado, otherwise had the same year.

Raiola will never take the next step unless he fixes his footwork. It is atrocious.

This is why Thomas can go as well.  UNLESS DR is listening to his private QB coach and disregarding any coaching from NU staff.  Then I'd look at moving on from DR.  

[Undone]

30 minutes ago, runningblind said:

We beat Colorado, otherwise had the same year.

 

Raiola will never take the next step unless he fixes his footwork. It is atrocious.

 

Hang on. "Atrocious" is really harsh, and I don't think it's even accurate. Considering he's a true freshman it's not bad.

 

I think the bigger issue is needing a higher level of intensity. His internal clock needs to speed up so he can find guys that are open faster.

[Red Five]

3 minutes ago, Undone said:

His internal clock needs to speed up so he can find guys that are open faster.

Agree, and if you ask any multi-year QB starter they will state maybe the biggest difference from year 1 to year 2 is that the game slows down for them.

 

Also having an entire offseason of Holgo will be a huge upgrade of Satt/Thomas.

[Mavric]

9 minutes ago, Red Five said:

Also having an entire offseason of Holgo will be a huge upgrade of Satt/Thomas.

 

That's what people said 12 months ago when we hired Thomas.

[PaulCrewe]

6 minutes ago, Undone said:

 

Hang on. "Atrocious" is really harsh. Considering he's a true freshman it's not bad.

 

I think the bigger issue is needing a higher level of intensity. His internal clock needs to speed up so he can find guys that are open faster.

This is so true.  His last year of HS was in Buford.  Great competition, but his HS is a monster compared to most.  Habits were developed there as he was able to get away with them as far as pocket presence and footwork.  Then you add in to the mix of moving up to college where every kid on the field pretty much was a dude in HS and oh look you go against DC's that are actually pretty smart and able to find faults of players and offenses. 

 

DR was able to get away with those habits early on as the competition allowed that, but as season aged and the level of experience and intelligence of opposing teams and staffs grew we saw the crude wake up call DR was getting.  Was he helped by the staff who might have been slightly resting on the laurels of his early performances????  Probably not.

 

A full off season with Dana(hopefully) will do him wonders.  DH's offense(Hal Mumme disciple) is based on precision and attention to details.  Something I'd wager a solid chunk of money Satt's offense couldn't begin to comprehend or stress.  Add in what Undone has said about the game slowing down and who knows.   Hopefully Profit

[PaulCrewe]

2 minutes ago, Mavric said:

 

That's what people said 12 months ago when we hired Thomas.

Come on Mav, apples and oranges.   YOU even saw what was a more fluid/competent looking offense in just four weeks of DH putting his hands on it.  Add to the fact that was basing it off of an offense that couldn't throw, relying so much on QBs running and not a season worth of DR on film.    This is so different

[Mavric]

1 minute ago, PaulCrewe said:

Come on Mav, apples and oranges.   YOU even saw what was a more fluid/competent looking offense in just four weeks of DH putting his hands on it.  Add to the fact that was basing it off of an offense that couldn't throw, relying so much on QBs running and not a season worth of DR on film.    This is so different

 

I mean ... having a five-star QB and a QB coach should have been a lot different from a TE playing QB without a dedicated QB coach.  But....