Fred's High School Signees

[Mavric]

With Janowski transferring, it got me wondering....

 

Who is the most successful (at Nebraska) high school player Fred has signed?

[The Murphinator]

2 hours ago, Mavric said:

With Janowski transferring, it got me wondering....

 

Who is the most successful (at Nebraska) high school player Fred has signed?

Only really 2 options for this one. Bryce McGowens or Jamarques Lawrence 

[Husker03]

11 hours ago, The Murphinator said:

Only really 2 options for this one. Bryce McGowens or Jamarques Lawrence 

And, in the end it doesn't really matter. Nobody plays for the same school anymore for 4+ years. If I am Fred, I am not putting any more effort into recruiting high school kids that I do shaving my neck beard on Sunday morning.

[gobiggergoredder]

6 hours ago, Husker03 said:

And, in the end it doesn't really matter. Nobody plays for the same school anymore for 4+ years. If I am Fred, I am not putting any more effort into recruiting high school kids that I do shaving my neck beard on Sunday morning.

March madness was a joke.

 

It seemed like nearly every player got the comment “Player X was at School Y last year”.

[admo]

It's a really good question.  Because then you wonder how good a head coach really is?  If success comes down to transfer players and good assistant coaches around you.  

 

Excited they won the Crown.  But without this brand new post season tourney, you can't overlook not making the Big Ten Tourney.  

 

Getting High School signees, then playing and developing them doesn't seem to be Hoiberg's strong-suit for success.  By saying success, I'm referring to him as a top paid HC that got an extension. 

[SouthLincoln Husker]

7 hours ago, admo said:

It's a really good question.  Because then you wonder how good a head coach really is?  If success comes down to transfer players and good assistant coaches around you.  

 

Excited they won the Crown.  But without this brand new post season tourney, you can't overlook not making the Big Ten Tourney.  

 

Getting High School signees, then playing and developing them doesn't seem to be Hoiberg's strong-suit for success.  By saying success, I'm referring to him as a top paid HC that got an extension. 

Developing players in major D1 is a thing of the past.  Kids want to play right away & right now we are not going to get these type of HS players.  We lost 2 players this yr. due to playing time & both would have played in the future.  The question is whether he can make adjustments from the poor 2024 portal in 2025.  Basically learning from his mistakes.

[admo]

On 4/13/2025 at 8:39 AM, SouthLincoln Husker said:

Developing players in major D1 is a thing of the past.  Kids want to play right away & right now we are not going to get these type of HS players.  We lost 2 players this yr. due to playing time & both would have played in the future.  The question is whether he can make adjustments from the poor 2024 portal in 2025.  Basically learning from his mistakes.

Developing players is a thing of the past?  Like with Janowski who was listed over 200lbs and 6'4?  A player that scored 2300 points in HS?  A player recruited by Marquette, USC, Iowa State, Wisconsin and Iowa?  A player that averaged 31 points a night his Senior year, and 20 points a game throughout his entire 4 years of Varsity?  

 

What's to develop?  A shooter can shoot and a scorer can score.  The game is always about scoring points.  Defense is more a thing of the past, IMO.

 

I just don't understand HC Hoiberg.  Playing transfer guys like Worster and Uhlis that can't score, can't do much besides dribbling the ball all game long, and rotating Fred's scrappy son to help, with the entire game plan to get Brice the ball.  And if Brice doesn't score, it's up to Gary to go "rogue" and slash to the basket or throw bombs that occasionally go in beyond the arc.  

 

We needed offense and needed to score points to keep up, and you can plug in a trie freshmen like Janowski to get you buckets.  But it was never even tried.  

 

And don't ever call Nebraska basketball a "major D1" school.  Love Husker hoops since the Hoppen days, but they never even won a playoff game in March Madness.  I mean, Sacramento State with new HC Mike Bibby will before the Huskers do.  

 

Which means, yeah, you can and you should play true freshmen if you go to Nebraska.  But somehow Nebraska thinks they are major D1 and needs transfers?  And like, maybe be good enough to make the Big Ten Tournament, when 15 out of 18 teams become eligible to make it?  LOL give me a break.  You get a good HS player, you play them.  It's really that easy.  

[FrankWheeler]

I think it’s really hard to transition to major college basketball unless you are a truly special talent, especially on the defensive end.  
 

If you look at the freshman that played meaningful minutes in the B1G this year and then compare that to those expected to be lottery picks it’s pretty revealing of what it takes. (And then you have a guy that is returning like Mobley who would probably also be a first round pick.)
 

 

[ECisGod]

9 hours ago, admo said:

Developing players is a thing of the past?  Like with Janowski who was listed over 200lbs and 6'4?  A player that scored 2300 points in HS?  A player recruited by Marquette, USC, Iowa State, Wisconsin and Iowa?  A player that averaged 31 points a night his Senior year, and 20 points a game throughout his entire 4 years of Varsity?  

 

What's to develop?  A shooter can shoot and a scorer can score.  The game is always about scoring points.  Defense is more a thing of the past, IMO.

 

I just don't understand HC Hoiberg.  Playing transfer guys like Worster and Uhlis that can't score, can't do much besides dribbling the ball all game long, and rotating Fred's scrappy son to help, with the entire game plan to get Brice the ball.  And if Brice doesn't score, it's up to Gary to go "rogue" and slash to the basket or throw bombs that occasionally go in beyond the arc.  

 

We needed offense and needed to score points to keep up, and you can plug in a trie freshmen like Janowski to get you buckets.  But it was never even tried.  

 

And don't ever call Nebraska basketball a "major D1" school.  Love Husker hoops since the Hoppen days, but they never even won a playoff game in March Madness.  I mean, Sacramento State with new HC Mike Bibby will before the Huskers do.  

 

Which means, yeah, you can and you should play true freshmen if you go to Nebraska.  But somehow Nebraska thinks they are major D1 and needs transfers?  And like, maybe be good enough to make the Big Ten Tournament, when 15 out of 18 teams become eligible to make it?  LOL give me a break.  You get a good HS player, you play them.  It's really that easy.  

Defense is a thing of the past?  You realize that the two teams that played for the national championship had top 20 defenses, right?  Defense is the reason Giffiths didn't play - he looked completely lost on that end of the floor.

 

Playing/redshirting is left up to the player.  They are given the reality of how much they are likely to play and then they make the decision.

 

[Husker03]

Have had kids playing basketball through the ranks for almost a decade now. It is amazing to me the way a kid can look like a world beater at the "b" level and move on up to the "a" level and be completely ineffective, most of the time just due to the new pace of play, sometimes do to the increased talent they are up against.  The transition for almost any human from HS to D1 is going to be tough, no matter how good you looked against HS competition. Some college teams have 4 "great" players on the court which allows you the flexibility to have a frosh got out there and get the experience and take his lumps. Teams like Nebraska don't have enough "great" players out there to allow a developmental guy to get the minutes without directly impacting actual chances of winning. Just is what it is. If they can't be patient, we aren't likely ever going to be the school for them.

[SouthLincoln Husker]

14 hours ago, admo said:

Developing players is a thing of the past?  Like with Janowski who was listed over 200lbs and 6'4?  A player that scored 2300 points in HS?  A player recruited by Marquette, USC, Iowa State, Wisconsin and Iowa?  A player that averaged 31 points a night his Senior year, and 20 points a game throughout his entire 4 years of Varsity?  

 

What's to develop?  A shooter can shoot and a scorer can score.  The game is always about scoring points.  Defense is more a thing of the past, IMO.

 

I just don't understand HC Hoiberg.  Playing transfer guys like Worster and Uhlis that can't score, can't do much besides dribbling the ball all game long, and rotating Fred's scrappy son to help, with the entire game plan to get Brice the ball.  And if Brice doesn't score, it's up to Gary to go "rogue" and slash to the basket or throw bombs that occasionally go in beyond the arc.  

 

We needed offense and needed to score points to keep up, and you can plug in a trie freshmen like Janowski to get you buckets.  But it was never even tried.  

 

And don't ever call Nebraska basketball a "major D1" school.  Love Husker hoops since the Hoppen days, but they never even won a playoff game in March Madness.  I mean, Sacramento State with new HC Mike Bibby will before the Huskers do.  

 

Which means, yeah, you can and you should play true freshmen if you go to Nebraska.  But somehow Nebraska thinks they are major D1 and needs transfers?  And like, maybe be good enough to make the Big Ten Tournament, when 15 out of 18 teams become eligible to make it?  LOL give me a break.  You get a good HS player, you play them.  It's really that easy.  

Are you at practices?  You seem to know everything about these player.  I'm not, but I'm guessing there is more to playing than shooting.  

[admo]

15 hours ago, ECisGod said:

Defense is a thing of the past?  You realize that the two teams that played for the national championship had top 20 defenses, right?  Defense is the reason Giffiths didn't play - he looked completely lost on that end of the floor.

 

Playing/redshirting is left up to the player.  They are given the reality of how much they are likely to play and then they make the decision.

 

Not trying to get you bothered, but to just get you thinking.  

[admo]

10 hours ago, SouthLincoln Husker said:

Are you at practices?  You seem to know everything about these player.  I'm not, but I'm guessing there is more to playing than shooting.  

Relax.  I'm all for talking hoops, but mostly see more value with scorers and shooters, because the team that scores the most points wins 10 out 10 times.   To me that's pretty important when having a "system".  

[Mavric]

18 hours ago, SouthLincoln Husker said:

Are you at practices?

 

This is a pretty interesting comment from someone who is constantly blaming the players for things that sure look like they're how the scheme is run.

[SouthLincoln Husker]

1 hour ago, Mavric said:

 

This is a pretty interesting comment from someone who is constantly blaming the players for things that sure look like they're how the scheme is run.

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