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22 hours ago, Husker in WI said:

 

I think we played reasonably well in each game until Illinois, which made that one even more frustrating. People point to the yards against Penn State, but to my admittedly kool-aid drunk eyes that had more to do with a decision to try and waste the second half than poor play. NW is currently #1, #1, and #3 in the defensive metrics hereIf Illinois was the outlier I'm hoping it was, Friday will be a lot better than people think. That's a gigantic if though, it could just as easily be a negative turning point as it could be the outlier.

Ridiculous. Games aren’t random. We got owned. We get owned every week. If anything, the Penn State was the outliner. As hard it is believe, PSU wanted to lose more than we did. 

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McCaffrey, period.   If we're going to lose one of them to transfer, it has to be Martinez. Cannot afford to lose Luke.

10 minutes ago, krc1995 said:

Ridiculous. Games aren’t random. We got owned. We get owned every week. If anything, the Penn State was the outliner. As hard it is believe, PSU wanted to lose more than we did. 

 

I'm just saying offensively we easily have the most yards against NW, and the second most against OSU. Penn State was weird, we were rolling and then went hyper-conservative but it was not a good offensive output overall. Illinois was a disaster across the board. And I can't help but notice that the easy common factor in the better games was AM at QB. Those yards need to be points, absolutely. But our game against Illinois didn't match anything I saw in the first 3 games, so I'm expecting a much better performance this week - which may still not be enough to win. 

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On 11/23/2020 at 12:47 PM, SODAKSKERSFAN20 said:

I didnt want Martinez replaced at all. Where the freshman Martinez went none of us will ever know but i don't think this is on Martinez or McCaffery. A lot of this has to be on Frost and Co. Where is the unique play calling? Remember 2 years ago after the Ohio State game? Frost had Ohio State guessing the entire game and our offense was moving at will. There is zero creativity. ZERO. Seems like we have guys doing things they shouldn't be (Warner jet sweeps, Hickman coming motion to lead block) I get the first drive is scripted but can Frost not get out of his own head and just call plays. 

 

We need play makers. We are 1-3. Ill take the learning curves of Betts, Fleming, Brown at WR. There are some points in a game where it seriously looks like we have 5 tight ends in the game. Defenses aren't scared of any of those guys and that kills our running game. I also thought Marvin Scott III looked good. Bruiser that can wear down the defense. Did he even get a touch in the 2nd half? 

 

Start Martinez. Get McCaffery in the game in certain situations and build an identity on offense. Did anyone watch the Cincinnati-UCF game? Quick throws to speed guys. YAC all over the place. Defense moves up and they go over the top. Its a beautiful thing.  


We have multiple problems with trying to throw “quick throws to speed guys”

 

1. That is that’s exactly what Frost has telegraphed for multiple seasons and so corners are looking to jump those routes every single time (after having practiced for them all week) with both safeties having no fear of deep balls and so stacking the box in anticipation. Until Frost starts sending Fleming or Betts (or anyone else) on deep routes over 15 yards, the rest of our offence will be hamstrung as we’re forcing the opposing defence to only protect a very small portion of the field.  Force their 11 guys to defence 30 yards of field? Or only 10?  Which is easier for them to do?

 

2.  Despite enough time in the system, both QB’s are horrible at those throws. At this point I think they’re more likely to need a psychiatrist than a new QB coach, but until they can hit simple things like a swing pass (when it’s open) we’re going to have a rough time. 

3.  I thought our OL played their worst game of the year. Between the bad snaps and inability of the right side (Wilson in particular) to either pass block or run block, all your play call options are going to be hard to execute.  On the snaps issue, it could be argued that an OC playing to his strengths and away from his weaknesses would install a bunch of plays where the QB is under Center to see if on balance those provide better outcomes.  
 

All-in-all our OC seems to be aiming for Einstein’s definition of insanity: “Doing the exact same things over and over and expecting different results.”  There will be no success until that changes.

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2 hours ago, Canadian Fan said:

All-in-all our OC seems to be aiming for Einstein’s definition of insanity: “Doing the exact same things over and over and expecting different results.”  There will be no success until that changes.

 

Actually I think an argument against this statement can be made. Meaning, I think doing the exact thing over and over can be for developing consistency. What I wonder is, if Frost were to actually implement say 15 plays and off of those 2 audibles.. You run those 15 plays over and over until players can do run them with their eyes shut.. Isn't that kind of what the Osborne offenses were? (again, showing my lack of real understanding here) 

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I think the answer is definitively Martinez. He's not vastly superiorly to McCaffrey, but I think he has the better deep ball. I also fancy the notion of having McCaffrey and Wandale both on the field most plays, used interchangeably at running back, slot, etc. Hopefully their presence would distract the defense enough to allow the wide receivers find creases/openings.

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Is it surprising to anyone else that this is such an issue with a supposed innovative offensive mind?

 

AM should be the QB, and you have LM who can line up at any skill position and be a threat to run, receive, and throw. Obviously the regression of Martinez is the reason we have this thread, but where’s the creativity?  Why aren’t they on the field together most of the time?

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4 hours ago, Jason Sitoke said:

Is it surprising to anyone else that this is such an issue with a supposed innovative offensive mind?

 

AM should be the QB, and you have LM who can line up at any skill position and be a threat to run, receive, and throw. Obviously the regression of Martinez is the reason we have this thread, but where’s the creativity?  Why aren’t they on the field together most of the time?

Luke can be a great QB he just needs more polishing and time. I say go with 2AM and put in some packages for Luke to keep the defense honest. 

 

I agree that he needs to see the field in some capacity. What I really want to see is all the trick plays or some creative plays against Iowa. I think a good play would be a qb option with Martinez and McCaffrey. Pitch to Luke and have him throw or fake it to Luke and have AM run. It doesn't have to be that play but a play similar to what Rutgers ran in OT against Michigan is the kind of play calling we have lacked. The creativity is not there. I am not saying it has to be every play but a solid 5 or so plays to try to create a spark. 

 

One other play I like is a jet sweep with a speedster. Wisconsin runs that all the dang time. We should run it 5 or so times a game and then we can actually catch a defense off when we have a WR run in motion. If the QBs cannot run certain plays we have to get creative. I like the levels concept play where we roll a qb out and pass either to the rb, TE, or WR deep. The qb literally just looks and throws to the open man. 

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