USC: What Did We Learn

Did you see how many dropped passes they had? They looked anything but sharp. Probably, in part, because they are awful in true away games...and they still beat us when we're "blacked out" at night.

And, if we are so lock down on the back end, where is the yield on run defense? If we're so talented back there, like a 2010 Husker team, why can't we scheme to then load up to stop the run
How many more times are you going to move the goal posts after I prove you don't know what you're talking about?

What do you not understand about having an elite secondary and a weak defensive line? We only gave up 21 points despite one of the worst defensive fronts in memory because we can depend on our corners in 1-on-1 situations which let's us bring safeties and run blitzes. That's the reason we didn't get torched for 300 yards in the run game.
 
Do your joints hurt from that level of mental gymnastics used to write that post?

You have one kid who's built like a tank and is a pocket passer. Then you have another one who is built completely different and is run-first.

How dumb would you be to have the playbook be the same for both guys?
Did the other 10 players leave the field once DR was injured? My point is, the back up should know the playbook and should be able to run most of the play book. All that DR was doing was dink and dunk short throws, tell me that our backup can't do those? We didn't run him enough or use the read option near enough. There are plays in the play book for both players. This was an epic failure for the coaching staff and on TJ. Trust your system and players, and see what happens.
 
The rumorville made Rhule's pockets fuller. No one was going to poach him from us, but we overreacted to hype. I think we could do better, but fact of the matter is, we haven't done better since firing BO. So I don't blame the program for trying to keep some since of stability.
 
How many more times are you going to move the goal posts after I prove you don't know what you're talking about?

What do you not understand about having an elite secondary and a weak defensive line? We only gave up 21 points despite one of the worst defensive fronts in memory because we can depend on our corners in 1-on-1 situations which let's us bring safeties and run blitzes. That's the reason we didn't get torched for 300 yards in the run game.
What's the point of arguing semantics about an "elite" secondary (no they're not elite) when the overall pass defense is poor (pass rush is atrocious) and the overall defense is bad?

What trophy is this elite secondary going to get this year separate from the team results? What is the yield of this elite secondary as it relates to QB sacks and stopping the run? How elite is this secondary when we blitz with them...and we still don't get to the QB?

No elite secondary would play #21 for meaningful time. They play hard. They grind. There is no part of the defense that is elite.

The best part of this team is some grit and our RB1.
 
Hang on. I agree that our inability to stop the run lead to us giving up the lead in the 4th. I guess you'd have to be a f****** dips*** to not agree with that.

But the yardage in the first half was relatively inconsequential because we did clamp down on one of those drives. And those went into the overall stat.

Our defense should have played way better to get the W in the 4th. Every single person who watched the game will agree with that.

Maiava was 9/23. Emmett had 165 yards rushing. Our true sophomore phenom QB got hurt at the top of the 3rd quarter.
Your original comment I replied to was to downplay USC’s rushing game because their lead rb only had 129 yards. I’m pointing out that their efficiency in being able to run led to those points.

Yes, we held their passing game largely in check but it doesn’t really matter when don’t need to pass to win the game. Yes, I think EJ was great. Yes, Raiola got hurt and that didn’t help us. But it wasn’t just the 4th quarter where our run D faltered, it was the entire game.

Is the cursing really needed?
 
Did the other 10 players leave the field once DR was injured? My point is, the back up should know the playbook and should be able to run most of the play book. All that DR was doing was dink and dunk short throws, tell me that our backup can't do those? We didn't run him enough or use the read option near enough. There are plays in the play book for both players. This was an epic failure for the coaching staff and on TJ. Trust your system and players, and see what happens.

We didn't run who enough? Lateef? What is even your thesis?

If we didn't run Lateef enough, I've got a news flash for you: we basically don't run Raiola at all. But the argument is that we should run the same exact playbook when the backup is in?

What is happening here?
 
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Yes, we held their passing game largely in check but it doesn’t really matter when don’t need to pass to win the game. Yes, I think EJ was great. Yes, Raiola got hurt and that didn’t help us. But it wasn’t just the 4th quarter where our run D faltered, it was the entire game.

I know your history on this board and your posts are really solid. Like, you're upper 10th percentile, easily.

I was churning out random stats to kind of underscore the randomness of doing that.

Totally agree that:
  • We had the lead early in the 4th quarter.
  • If our defense has really taken over the game at that point and shut them down, we win.

I'm just not sure that this was the punchline of the game, though. Maybe it was. For me the punchline was probably Raiola getting hurt.
 
We didn't run who enough? Lateef? What is even your thesis?

If we didn't run Lateef enough, I've got a news flash for you: we basically don't run Raiola at all. But the argument is that we should run the same exactly playbook when the backup is in?

What is happening here?
My point is : Why punish the other 10 players on the field and take them out of the game because we have a backup QB? We didn't target our wideouts much at all, even when DR was still in, but once or twice after he was out. That shows we don't have faith in the system as well as the players on the field. I understand dumb the play book down some, but still run your offense. I feel like they just basically gave up on the pass game and ran EJ on the same play over and over again. The read option was there. If you keep running that and on occasion keep the ball, USC had no edge protection against that. They were loading the box to stop EJ. My point is, your system is your system, run it. The players are players in the same system, regardless of QB. As another poster said, how many backups have beaten Nebraska in the past? Should not be an excuse for losing, or looking lost.
 
TJ played 24 snaps. He ran the ball 6 times.

What do you think the correct number of runs should have been?
He could have kept the ball on a couple of read options. The edge was there for it and that might have opened the middle more for EJ. When you only have to defend the middle of the field, it makes playing defense much easier. I think this staff panicked, and did not trust its system and players to make plays. Guessing that TJ takes 25% snaps in practice or should and those should be plays he can run with confidence. If he isn't getting those reps in practice, shame on the staff.
 
What's the point of arguing semantics about an "elite" secondary (no they're not elite) when the overall pass defense is poor (pass rush is atrocious) and the overall defense is bad?

What trophy is this elite secondary going to get this year separate from the team results? What is the yield of this elite secondary as it relates to QB sacks and stopping the run? How elite is this secondary when we blitz with them...and we still don't get to the QB?

No elite secondary would play #21 for meaningful time. They play hard. They grind. There is no part of the defense that is elite.

The best part of this team is some grit and our RB1.
It's not semantics. You just continually talk out your balloon knot, and then try to squirm out of it when someone calls your crap. This pass defensive is the 2nd best in the country. USC's passing offense is the best in the country. We held them to 135 yards, no passing TDs, and 39% completion. That's the complete opposite of poor. We took away the thing they do better than anyone else and made them have to adapt.

The defense as a whole has some obvious deficiencies, but it's more than adequate to keep us in any game. They haven't given up more than 30 points to anyone all season. This team is close to being payoff caliber in large part because of the defense. The offensive line has cripple us though, and not having a WR who can take the top off has once again hamstrung us for the 3rd year in a row.
 
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