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I don't disagree Mav - at this point, we could use 44 OTs.
Edit: Are we recruiting anyone still at OG? Considering Bland is far from solid, and that he's a JUCO, you think we'd want someone younger for some roster balance. Unless they think they can slide one of our OTs inside.
Edit2: Looking at our depth chart according to the final week of the season, we have three (3) players between LG, C, and RG that are not seniors, and one of those is a walk-on who has never actually played in a game. That is... concerning to only take one player and for it to be a JUCO.
I haven't seen much for interior linemen right now. With Jurgens moving there and the possibility of Piper going there as well, I don't think they're that worried. Plus I think Farniok would move inside if we get enough help on the outside. So I think it's pretty much OTs for this year.
Part of that is just because we have a lot of seniors. Raridon, Bland, Wilson, Bando, WFarniok and Jurgens plus possibly Piper and MFarniok is a pretty good set to choose from.
Do they really think summerall can grow into DE? We really need a stand up pass rusher at olb.Sprint to the finish. 21 commits right now. 24 open spots plus however many over-signs. Word is we are taking 30 - though a couple might be grad transfers.
Current Scholarships/Commits
QB - 1 - LUKE McCAFFREY
RB - 3 - RAHMIR JOHNSON, RONALD THOMPKINS, JUCO DEDRICK MILLS
WR - 3-4 - JAMIE NANCE, DARIEN CHASE, Zay Flowers, Jarrad Baker, Jalen Cropper
TE - 1-2 - CHRIS HICKMAN, Skylar Loving-Black
OT - 3-44 - MATTHEW ANDERSON, MICHAEL LYNN, BRYCE BENHART
OG/C - 1 - JUCO DESMOND BLAND
NT - 1-2 - JUCO TONY FAIR
DE - 3-4 - ETHAN PIPER, MOSAI NEWSOM, Ty Robinson, Brant Banks, Lloyd Summerall
ILB - 2-3 - JACKSON HANNAH, NICK HENRICH
OLB - 2-3 - GARRETT SNODGRASS, GARRETT NELSON, JUCO Dru Mathis
CB - 2-3 - QUINTON NEWSOME, JAVIN WRIGHT, Tavian Mayo, Myles Bell, Jamel Starks
S - 2 - MYLES FARMER, Noa Pola-Gates, Josh Sanguinetti, JUCO Markquese Bell
ATH - Jalen Cropper
Early Enrollees: McCaffrey, Mills, Nance, Hickman, Bland, Fair, Nelson
Do they really think summerall can grow into DE? We really need a stand up pass rusher at olb.
Sprint to the finish. 21 commits right now. 24 open spots plus however many over-signs. Word is we are taking 30 - though a couple might be grad transfers.
Current Scholarships/Commits
QB - 1 - LUKE McCAFFREY
RB - 3 - RAHMIR JOHNSON, RONALD THOMPKINS, JUCO DEDRICK MILLS
WR - 3-4 - JAMIE NANCE, DARIEN CHASE, Zay Flowers, Jarrad Baker, Jalen Cropper
TE - 1-2 - CHRIS HICKMAN, Skylar Loving-Black
OT - 3-44 - MATTHEW ANDERSON, MICHAEL LYNN, BRYCE BENHART
OG/C - 1 - JUCO DESMOND BLAND
NT - 1-2 - JUCO TONY FAIR
DE - 3-4 - ETHAN PIPER, MOSAI NEWSOM, Ty Robinson, Brant Banks
ILB - 2-3 - JACKSON HANNAH, NICK HENRICH
OLB - 2-3 - GARRETT SNODGRASS, GARRETT NELSON, JUCO Dru Mathis, Lloyd Summerall
CB - 2-3 - QUINTON NEWSOME, JAVIN WRIGHT, Tavian Mayo, Myles Bell, Jamel Starks
S - 2 - MYLES FARMER, Noa Pola-Gates, Josh Sanguinetti, JUCO Markquese Bell
Early Enrollees: McCaffrey, Mills, Nance, Hickman, Bland, Fair, Henrich, Nelson
So, remind me again how early enrollees affect the number of recruits we can take. If I remember right, they can count towards last year's class. But, that's only if last year's class has room.
Do all early enrollees count towards last year's class? If they don't, do they pay their own way for this semester and then go on scholarship starting in the summer?
If not all, how many of these will count towards last year? Right now, this lets 8. So, if all fo them would count to last year, doesn't that actually make it possible to take 36 recruits in 2019? 25+8 early enrollees+3 over sign.
I don't expect us to take that many. But, isn't that how the numbers would be?
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Do they have to enroll early to count towards last year?You are "limited" to 25 signees per class but you can back-count early enrollees against last year's numbers. We are looking to take up to 30 in this class but they may save a couple spots for grad transfers. So we would need to be able to count up to five early enrollees back to last year's class. I don't think you have to count all early enrollees as going back to last year's class. As I understand it you "may" count them back.
Last year we signed 23 guys so we already have two open spots that we can back-count out of this class. Then last year's early enrollees can be back-counted to the prior year. In 2017 we only signed 18 so we have plenty of room to back-count three guys from last year's class to 2017 which would give five spots from last year's class to back-count this year's early enrollees and make all the numbers work out.
Without getting too into-the-woods on the numbers, I think your example is pretty much correct. In 2016 we signed 21 so we could back-count (at least) 4 from 2017 to 2016. So we would have (at least) 11 open spots in the 2017 class to back-count 2018 guys. Just looking through this thread, it appears that Martinez, Bell, Woodyard, Farniok, McGriff, Honas, DWilliams and Pickering enrolled early so those 8 could be back-counted to 2017. That would leave (at least) 10 spots open in 2018 to back-count this year's early enrollees.
The over-sign number is apparently more fluid than I realized it was before last year. Basically the coaches can turn in an "expected" roster number and work from that. So it could be more than 3. So we could have 25 regular spots plus (at least) 10 back-counted early enrollees to last year plus 3-5 over-signs. So we could push 40 if we really wanted to.