2020 Coaching Staff

Nebfanatic said:
Eichorst fired Banker
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Yep, and he hired Diaco.  It took me awhile, but I finally got why we saw Riley sitting on the sidelines with his arms crossed.  His team was getting killed game after game and there wasn't anything he could do because he wasn't Diaco's boss.  I do fault him for not firing Diaco after Eichort got fired.  But he probably didn't have a choice them either.  

 
gobiggergoredder said:
I want to preface my statement with “I don’t believe anyone should be fired”.

What have you seen on the field that makes you believe either of these coaches are better than the others?
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Well, obviously the scheme we run needs to be taken into account and I am not a fan of a 3-4 that doesn't attack but within the scheme these two assistants have coached it well.  Remember, they are teaching what Chin tells them to teach so in many ways you have to look at development of individual players over how the unit as a whole performs because they are working within a flawed scheme.

There has been major improvement over two years with our DBs.  Lamar Jackson went from benched to a potential first round pick under Fisher, he also has recruited very well.  He lost his staring S in like the second game and has shown the ability to move two CB into S roles this season.  He can teach both positions.  If there were any pass rush from the damn OLB maybe the DBs would be in better shape on obvious passing downs.  Or if the MLB wasn't covering the slot all of the time.

The DL is much better than it was last year.  In this defense, it is not the DL's job to shed blocks and make plays.  They are supposed to take up double teams as much as possible and let the LBs make the play.  Our LBs overrunning plays and constantly being out of position in their gap responsibility is why we suck against the run.  The fact our DL lead our team in sacks is so sad and is the main reason the defense can't get off the field.  They cannot generate a pass rush as the 4th guy coming (an OLB) is supposed to be the pass rushing specialist.  Also he has only been here a year and has gotten some momentum in recruiting as well.

 
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In the Deed the Glory said:
Well, obviously the scheme we run needs to be taken into account and I am not a fan of a 3-4 that doesn't attack but within the scheme these two assistants have coached it well.  Remember, they are teaching what Chin tells them to teach so in many ways you have to look at development of individual players over how the unit as a whole performs because they are working within a flawed s

There has been major improvement over two years with our DBs.  Lamar Jackson went from benched to a potential first round pick under Fisher, he also has recruited very well.  He lost his staring S in like the second game and has shown the ability to move two CB into S roles this season.  He can teach both positions.  If there were any pass rush from the damn OLB maybe the DBs would be in better shape.

The DL is much better than it was last year.  In this defense, it is not the DL's job to shed blocks and make plays.  They are supposed to take up double teams as much as possible and let the LBs make the play.  Our LBs overrunning plays and constantly being out of position in their gap responsibility is why we suck against the run.  The fact our DL lead our team in sacks is so sad and is the main reason the defense can't get off the field.  They cannot generate a pass rush as the 4th guy coming (an OLB) is supposed to be the pass rushing specialist.  Also he has only been here a year and has gotten some momentum in recruiting as well.
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I think it’s reasonable to question the scheme.

Jackson was a dumpster fire when this staff came in.  He has improved tremendously and others have not.  Why is that?  Because the others don’t have the talent he does..IMO.

The DL is no better than it was last year.  Rarely is there an individual that makes a play.  Rarely do they get pressure with 4.  They can’t set the edge.

They are working off of 3 garbage recruiting cycles (2016-2018).  I’ll give em a chance.

 
Fact, only 8 players on both sides of the ball are frosts guys.  Until rileys s#!t recruits leave or get benched this team is toast.

 
gobiggergoredder said:
I think it’s reasonable to question the scheme.

Jackson was a dumpster fire when this staff came in.  He has improved tremendously and others have not.  Why is that?  Because the others don’t have the talent he does..IMO.

The DL is no better than it was last year.  Rarely is there an individual that makes a play.  Rarely do they get pressure with 4.  They can’t set the edge.

They are working off of 3 garbage recruiting cycles (2016-2018).  I’ll give em a chance.
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I'm not sure any one should lose their job, I should have stated that.  I just think those two are very good coaches.  I do question our LB play, however. 

With how this defense is run, the edge is many times set with an OLB.  OLB who have repeatedly ran themselves out of position to set that edge. 

I do agree, however, that there is not a lot of talent on that side of the ball.

My biggest problem with this staff, and this goes for offense as well, is the lack of in game adjustments.  We seem to gameplan very well during the week and are successful at watching film for how to attack teams early.  Where we really struggle is adjusting to the other teams adjustments.  This is a sign of young coaches.  I just don't know if young coaches learning on the fly deserve the paychecks they are getting. 

Frost said something to the effect of "I came here to fix Nebraska and if there are guys here that can't get that done then maybe they need to go.  I'll let nothing get in the way of that." (or something similar)  The question was geared toward players, but I'm not so sure he wasn't sending a message to coaches.

The Head Coach has some very difficult decisions to make.  What he does decide may very well define his time here at Nebraska.

 
I agree with most of what you said.  I just think it’s too early.  How do you coach a LB to stop taking himself out of the play?...I know I have no idea.

I think the use of “adjustments” is about the most cliche statements in football.  It’s for commentators and message boards.  I know what people think it means, but if someone is kicking your @$$ because you’re overmatched, what “adjustment” should you make?

 
Nebfanatic said:
Eichorst fired Banker
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Did you learn nothing from Bo? Eichorst is a c*** LOL 

But seriously, i don't agree with the AD strong arming the coach on staff decisions. Moos should Express his concern to Frost, but not force him to make changes. 

 
Frost had an interesting quote in his post game presser. When asked about player attrition, he said if there are certain people who don't need to be here to get us where we need to be, then he's prepared to make those decisions. 

He said it in response to a question about players, but I'm curious if he's actually referring to coaches.

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In the Deed the Glory said:
I do agree, however, that there is not a lot of talent on that side of the ball.

My biggest problem with this staff, and this goes for offense as well, is the lack of in game adjustments.  We seem to gameplan very well during the week and are successful at watching film for how to attack teams early.  Where we really struggle is adjusting to the other teams adjustments.  This is a sign of young coaches.  I just don't know if young coaches learning on the fly deserve the paychecks they are getting. 
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I actually wonder if it should be looked at another way.. I wonder if our coaches see our glaring weakness' and lack of LB/DL, OL talent and spend the week analyzing film and do design ways to minimize the deficiencies, which is actually "good coaching." However, when the team adjusts to the hail mary scheme that was the one way to minimize our lack of playmakers across the board, our coaches have no response because there is no response. If you are somehow magically able to scheme a way to call defense when you lack playmakers at any position, once the adjustment comes in there isn't much to fall back on imo.  They need time, they need guys.. I think Chin's may actually be ok in the long run.. For our sake, I sure hope he is.  We need guys.. My biggest concern is how to get those guys. My fear is those guys are going to have to be the Stallbird's for a few years, which means the process is going to take so much longer than I want it to.

 
gobiggergoredder said:
I agree with most of what you said.  I just think it’s too early.  How do you coach a LB to stop taking himself out of the play?...I know I have no idea.

I think the use of “adjustments” is about the most cliche statements in football.  It’s for commentators and message boards.  I know what people think it means, but if someone is kicking your @$$ because you’re overmatched, what “adjustment” should you make?
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I don’t know how you fix LB doing that either but that’s why we don’t get paid 800k to figure it out 

 
18 minutes ago, ActualCornHusker said:

Frost had an interesting quote in his post game presser. When asked about player attrition, he said if there are certain people who don't need to be here to get us where we need to be, then he's prepared to make those decisions. 

He said it in response to a question about players, but I'm curious if he's actually referring to coaches.

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He's talking about the players

 
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