2023 Fall Camp Notes - Quarterbacks
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admo
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admo
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If you disagree, fine. No worries.
Sorry, but I do not have to provide you with anything. Whatever I assert from years of games and from the pregame broadcasts showing temp and wind before kickoff, and mentioning it's windy or chilly or cold which might impact throwing the ball, field position, punting and field goals. Why do I have to come up with proof for you? It does get windy, it does get really cold, it does get super hot, it does impact numerous games and how things are played out. I'm not trying throwing out thoughts. If I mention it, accept or don't.
The Dude
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Are you suggesting weather conditions don't affect outdoor sports? It's a fairly basic observation. It's the reason indoor sports exist. I don't think you need data.
admo
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ColoradoHusk
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It’s not my point at all. I’m not a moron. But, at what point is the wind affecting the passing game. At what point is it so cold it impacts the game. My comment is that I don’t think that weather impacts the game as much as the OP commented on. I was just looking for a percentage of games (with numbers/examples) to back it up which are impacted by weather. I don’t think it’s an unreasonable ask.
runningblind
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I don't know if they're are stats kept on this either, but I think the "lore of the B1G outside in November" is overblown a bit. For every terrible weather game, a team gets 2-3+ moderate to mild games in November I'd say. The weather never turns bad for long stretches until December, which makes sense if winter doesn't actually start until almost Christmas.
I get that it's not 70+ degrees like in the south, but it's not like it's hard to play in 45-50 degrees and partly cloudy skies with a slight breeze either.
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ColoradoHusk
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I went thru the box scores of the 2022 games, which show the weather conditions at kickoff for every game. In September and October, all of the games were above 50 degrees and had winds in the 5-12 MPH range (not what I would call strong winds).
In November, Minnesota and Michigan had early kickoffs with 40 degree temps and winds 10 MPH or less. The only games which were colder or had strong winds were Wisconsin (another early kick which had a cold morning) and Iowa (which may be the windiest location in the Big Ten).
So, out of 12 games, only 2 games had conditions which I would consider mildly adverse. That’s what I mean by saying the outdoor conditions not having a big impact in most games.
EDIT: Adding in the 2021 games, there was only one game with winds higher than 15 MPH (home vs. Purdue) and one game which kicked off with temps lower than 50 degrees. Yes, adverse weather conditions CAN happen, and we generally remember those games because of “crazy” weather, but those bad weather games are OUTLIERS, and not the norm.
In November, Minnesota and Michigan had early kickoffs with 40 degree temps and winds 10 MPH or less. The only games which were colder or had strong winds were Wisconsin (another early kick which had a cold morning) and Iowa (which may be the windiest location in the Big Ten).
So, out of 12 games, only 2 games had conditions which I would consider mildly adverse. That’s what I mean by saying the outdoor conditions not having a big impact in most games.
EDIT: Adding in the 2021 games, there was only one game with winds higher than 15 MPH (home vs. Purdue) and one game which kicked off with temps lower than 50 degrees. Yes, adverse weather conditions CAN happen, and we generally remember those games because of “crazy” weather, but those bad weather games are OUTLIERS, and not the norm.
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BigRedBuster
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The amount that cold and wind affect Nebraska football games is greatly overstated by people trying to convince good players to come here.
maybe there is one really cold and windy game here per year average where it would greatly affect the passing game. …..maybe.
Born N Bled Red
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Might be age talking here, but I feel like adverse weather during games happened way more 20 years ago than it does now.
ColoradoHusk
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Two things at play here.
1) Global climate changes
2) You remember the adverse weather games more often than the normal weather games, so you get a perception bias in that “adverse weather games occur more often”.
BigRedBuster
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Why don’t people talk about all the games in the south are playing in horrible heat and humidity?
The weather in Nebraska is over blown as it pertains to football.
Archy1221
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The question you are asking is very hard to answer though, and impossible to answer just based on historic box scores.
The wind conditions effect of the passing games depends on a few factors. What type of wind a QB is throwing in crosswind/headwind/tailwind along with whether it’s a consistent strong wind or what we all might call blustery I guess with strong wind gusts. You also have to consider the velocity a specific QB puts on the ball along with the rotational force he generates (how well he can spin it). You might see one QB affected a great deal more than his counterpart during the course of a game in the same conditions.
Cold conditions (wind chill factor below 25 degrees or so) I hated the most because the ball became slick, you lose feeling in your hands and touch becomes more problematic.
Rain conditions are also variable amongst QB’s because what type of rain (downpour, slight constant drizzle, etc), how well they spin the ball and hand size quite frankly. Someone with larger hands/longer fingers can grip the wet ball better and allow more pressure to be applied and generate more force and velocity.
Long winded way of saying “it depends”.
