2024-2025 College Football Playoff

DK LINES indicate 2 pretty good games.

ND -1.5 vs PSU
tOSU -5.5 vs Texas

Draft Kings also has line indication for Championship Games possibilities.  

tOSU -5.5 vs Texas (semi)

tOSU -6.5 vs ND (NCG)
tOSU -7 vs PSU (NCG)

If Texas beats Ohio State (semi)

TX -2.5 vs ND (NCG)
Texas -3 vs PSU (NCG)

Interesting note in case no one is aware, but next year, the first game Texas plays is at Ohio State (their first game too).  

After that, tOSU plays no one until Penn State and finally Michigan.  Should have an easy path once again.

Meanwhile, this schedule ought to keep the college football crazies from screaming "They don't play anyone!" 

2025 Notre Dame Schedule (needs to schedule a 12th game)

08/30 - at Miami (FL) - ACC
09/13 - Texas A&M - SEC
09/20 - Purdue - B1G
09/27 - at Arkansas - SEC
10/04 - Boise State - MWC
10/18 - USC - B1G
11/08 - Navy -IND
TBA - NC State - ACC
TBA - Syracuse- ACC
TBA - at Pitt- ACC
TBA - at Boston College- ACC

That's 9 games against P3 conference teams (1 more than SEC does).

* in comparison, Ohio State plays Purdue and Grambling, Ohio, Rutgers, Northwestern.  




ND's schedule this year was garbage, and what you're showing here probably still doesn't put them in the top 20 toughest schedules. I don't understand your "in comparison." Why does your in comparison not mention Texas and Penn State? ND does not play anyone as good as those 2 teams. OSU's last 4 games are just as tough as ND's last 4 games. Purdue sucks but ND plays them too, so replace Purdue in OSU's last 4 with Wisconsin or Minnesota or Illinois, who could all be decent teams any given year. And Michigan is far better than any of ND's last 4. Pitt and Syracuse have similar records to UCLA and Rutgers, and the ACC is a s#!ttier conference overall than the B1G, which means the records for the B1G teams are more impressive.

There is really no reason to think OSU's schedule is weak and then to turn around and say ND's is strong. I think you saying OSU has an easy path means you haven't really been paying attention to how well the B1G has done in bowl season.

 
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ND's schedule this year was garbage, and what you're showing here probably still doesn't put them in the top 20 toughest schedules. I don't understand your "in comparison." Why does your in comparison not mention Texas and Penn State? ND does not play anyone as good as those 2 teams. OSU's last 4 games are just as tough as ND's last 4 games. Purdue sucks but ND plays them too, so replace Purdue in OSU's last 4 with Wisconsin or Minnesota or Illinois, who could all be decent teams any given year. And Michigan is far better than any of ND's last 4. Pitt and Syracuse have similar records to UCLA and Rutgers, and the ACC is a s#!ttier conference overall than the B1G, which means the records for the B1G teams are more impressive.

There is really no reason to think OSU's schedule is weak and then to turn around and say ND's is strong. I think you saying OSU has an easy path means you haven't really been paying attention to how well the B1G has done in bowl season.
I will take my jabs at Ohio State any time I please.  Their schedule is junk every year. But, Ohio State plays Texas next year, and that is cool. So I pointed that out. Especially since they play each other in a few nights.  Winner to the championship game.

I disagree with just about everything else you said. 

ND sched this year was garbage, so I agree with that.  It obviously doesn't mean they are not a great team since they are 1 of 4 teams left playing football still.  I just thought next year's sched looks a lot more challenging since it was a hot topic for discussion across the country. So I pointed that out.

The ACC is a s#!tty conference with teams that typically finish between 6-17.  The Big Ten has s#!tty teams 8 through 18.  The SEC has s#!tty teams 11-16.  So I don't get your point on that either.  All conferences have bad teams, or teams that win some even though they are just average teams.  

 
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Meanwhile, this schedule ought to keep the college football crazies from screaming "They don't play anyone!"


Not necessarily. Could just be a repeat of 2012. If you'd looked at their schedule that year ahead of the season, you would've said it's pretty tough. But almost everyone on their schedule ended up being down that year, giving them a much easier path to the championship game than it initially looked like. And then of course they played Alabama and got their asses kicked.

If Notre Dame had been in a conference, they would've had to play a championship game against whoever rose to the top of the conference that year, regardless of the other teams on the schedule being down. And that's the thing: a conference championship is pretty much always gonna be against a decently tough opponent, no getting lucky if other teams on your schedule happen to suck that year.

 
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Not necessarily. Could just be a repeat of 2012. If you'd looked at their schedule that year ahead of the season, you would've said it's pretty tough. But almost everyone on their schedule ended up being down that year, giving them a much easier path to the championship game than it initially looked like. And then of course they played Alabama and got their asses kicked.

If Notre Dame had been in a conference, they would've had to play a championship game against whoever rose to the top of the conference that year, regardless of the other teams on the schedule being down. And that's the thing: a conference championship is pretty much always gonna be against a decently tough opponent, no getting lucky if other teams on your schedule happen to suck that year.
I understand your thinking on this.  However, let's look into it.

College schools / University Teams self-impose their punishment from violations because the NCAA no longer gets involved with it.  The NCAA is not forcing forfeits or laying down heavy sanctions that will impact a school with severity.  Not like before.  

I agree an Independent Conference Championship Game would help ideally, because it did help Boise State get a bye week into the playoffs. And that was crazy thinking by smart people.  But not many Universities can afford to become independent.  Is that Notre Dame's fault?  I don't think so.    

When the schedule was put together in advance, it is not ND's fault or problem when a team on paper sucks the year they play them.  Or if a team goes from average to great by the time they play.  However, you typically know who is pretty good when scheduling.

I don't understand the heavy push-back about ND being Independent and not tied to a conference.  

In fact, since you brought up "If"....  If Nebraska was Independent, could create their own 12 game schedule, including negotiating the kickoff time, and play every game on local TV for 3 decades - ABC (instead of NBC for ND) - I think every Nebraskan would be in love with that and see no problem with it.  And every Nebraskan fan would not think about a need to change and join a conference with the Big Ten, SEC, ACC or Big 12.  While every conference would be dying to add the Huskers.  

I sometimes wonder if people wish ND could be placed into a conference to identify there place in college sports/football.  If they are part of the B1G, some would say Go Irish! They make the conference stronger.  Or perhaps an extra reason to hate them (they suck, they play for the SEC or Big 12 or ACC).  It's compartmentalizing.  

But, since they are not in a conference you witness a jealousy and hate coming from so many college football fans across the landscape, and even punishment from the NCAA playoff committee (No bye weeks ever or Top 4 seeding without being in a conference).  Some hate them because they are a private school (just like BYU, Boston College, USC, TCU, Baylor, SMU, Georgetown, etc, etc).  Some older fans hated ND because of Lou Holtz coaching them.  I can understand that.  Because I had a very difficult time when Brian Kelly was their coach, and I always thought he was a fraud and slightly above average coach. Nothing great though.  It was a hard time for me.  

And as for conference championship games, look no further then the Big Ten with title games from the "Seriously, are you kidding me?" department.  It has not exactly been an evenly matched championship game year after year.

Michigan vs Iowa

Michigan vs Purdue

Michigan vs Iowa

Ohio State vs Northwestern

Ohio State vs Wisconsin

Ohio State vs Northwestern

Ohio State vs Wisconsin

Penn State vs Wisconsin

Michigan State vs Iowa

Ohio State vs Wisconsin

Ohio State vs Michigan State

Nebraska vs Wisconsin

Michigan State vs Wisconsin

Notre Dame may have won the same amount of big ten titles if they had been a replacement for OSU or Michigan.  You could make a case for about 15 teams across the country that finished 2nd, 3rd and 4th place that would have done as well as OSU and Michigan in the B1G CG.  

 
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@admo I don't really give a s#!t one way or the other about Notre Dame being in a conference or not. :dunno

But not having to play in a conference championship game absolutely should be considered when looking at a CFP resume.

 
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@admo I don't really give a s#!t one way or the other about Notre Dame being in a conference or not. :dunno

But not having to play in a conference championship game absolutely should be considered when looking at a CFP resume.
 Pretty sure you mentioned it and I responded.  Not a big deal to me, just adding to a convo.

Yes, all things are considered absolutely. 

Ohio State, Indiana and Tennessee did not have to play in a conference championship game. Their conf record was not good enough to play for it. Does not matter if their conference has a game, they did not qualify to play in it.  

Currently the Semi's (Final 4) have two teams that did play in a CCG and both lost in those games.  Notre Dame didn't have one as an Independent.  And Ohio State finished 3rd or 4th in the big ten.  

Having a CCG is helpful, but not necessary to be considered for playoffs.  And in a few years, it is possible for an expanded playoff with more teams.  There are only 4 power CC-Games.  

 
 Pretty sure you mentioned it and I responded.  Not a big deal to me, just adding to a convo.

Yes, all things are considered absolutely. 

Ohio State, Indiana and Tennessee did not have to play in a conference championship game. Their conf record was not good enough to play for it. Does not matter if their conference has a game, they did not qualify to play in it.  

Currently the Semi's (Final 4) have two teams that did play in a CCG and both lost in those games.  Notre Dame didn't have one as an Independent.  And Ohio State finished 3rd or 4th in the big ten.  

Having a CCG is helpful, but not necessary to be considered for playoffs.  And in a few years, it is possible for an expanded playoff with more teams.  There are only 4 power CC-Games.  
I think the point being made is that if you do play in the CCG, that should be a factor in considering that team's resume vs. a team that did not qualify for their own CCG.  Win or lose that should be considered a positive over someone who didn't qualify (in say a 2 loss vs 3 loss scenario).  Maybe it isn't fair to let a 2 loss team that missed their CCG in over a team that now has 3 losses because they lost their CCG. 

 
I picked Notre Dame OSU from the beginning. Now need OSU to beat Texas. Notre Dames has been consistent all year minus the fluke vs NIU. Their D is pretty solid and I love to see Freeman succeed after Kelly left to pursue a "better" opportunity.

 
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