5 Year Slump?

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I've seen a lot of discussion that it is common for a coach to hit a slump in their 5th year because of the time it takes to reload or get the right coaches in place or whatever excuse is being thrown out. Well guess what...there's nothing to this theory whatsoever. More excuses and spin jobs. For every coach you can come up with who excelled after a fifth year slump, I can find one that excelled much earlier. Have a look at this...

In the last 12 years...

Bob Stoops - National Championship - Year 2

Larry Coker - National Championship - Year 1

Jim Tressel - National Championship - Year 2

Nick Saban - National Championship - Year 4

Pete Carroll - National Championship - Year 3 & 4

Urban Meyer - National Championship - Year 2 & 4

Les Miles - National Championship - Year 3

Nick Saban (again) - National Championship - Year 3 & 5

Gene Chizik - National Championship - Year 2

In fact, if you can deduct anything, it's that if your guy doesn't win a National Championship in his first 5 years in today's game, there is a VERY good chance he's never going to. The only coach who has won a NC in the last 12 years which wasn't in his first five years was Mack Brown at Texas. Took him 8.

 
Landomatic said:
I've seen a lot of discussion that it is common for a coach to hit a slump in their 5th year because of the time it takes to reload or get the right coaches in place or whatever excuse is being thrown out. Well guess what...there's nothing to this theory whatsoever. More excuses and spin jobs. For every coach you can come up with who excelled after a fifth year slump, I can find one that excelled much earlier. Have a look at this...

In the last 12 years...

Bob Stoops - National Championship - Year 2

Larry Coker - National Championship - Year 1

Jim Tressel - National Championship - Year 2

Nick Saban - National Championship - Year 4

Pete Carroll - National Championship - Year 3 & 4

Urban Meyer - National Championship - Year 2 & 4

Les Miles - National Championship - Year 3

Nick Saban (again) - National Championship - Year 3 & 5

Gene Chizik - National Championship - Year 2

In fact, if you can deduct anything, it's that if your guy doesn't win a National Championship in his first 5 years in today's game, there is a VERY good chance he's never going to. The only coach who has won a NC in the last 12 years which wasn't in his first five years was Mack Brown at Texas. Took him 8.
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How many did Saban win before Alabama? One at LSU in his 10th year as a head coach. How about Chizik at Iowa St? Les Miles at Okla. St? Urban Meyer at Utah? Larry Coker took over an 11-1 team from 2000 and where is he now? Even Bill Callahan took the Raiders to the Super Bowl because of Jon Grudens players.

The only guys you can compare Pelini to in that group are Carrol and Stoops because they were both first time head coaches. Also, USC and Oklahoma are both easier places to get talent to. God, I hope we go undefeated the rest of the season then we won't hear from you til our next loss. Btw, I thought you were no longer a Husker fan? Shouldn't you be posting on another teams message board?

 
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Urban Meyer

Les Miles

Nick Saban

Those 3 coaches really pop out at me....ya know why? Because their W/L record wasn't highly impressive as first-time head coaches at a D1 level. Urban took Bowling Green to a 9-3, not too shabby, but your comparing apples to oranges when trying to measure their success with Bo's. You haven't factored in that the 3 successful coaches I've given above didn't win Natty Championships in their FIRST 1-3 years of being a head coach.

Comparing Les Miles and Nick's records with Bo's as being a first time head coach, Bo was more successful. Sorry....just stating facts.

 
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Also, Carroll coached the Jets for a season and the Patriots for 3 seasons before U$C

 
Landomatic said:
I've seen a lot of discussion that it is common for a coach to hit a slump in their 5th year because of the time it takes to reload or get the right coaches in place or whatever excuse is being thrown out. Well guess what...there's nothing to this theory whatsoever. More excuses and spin jobs. For every coach you can come up with who excelled after a fifth year slump, I can find one that excelled much earlier. Have a look at this...

In the last 12 years...

Bob Stoops - National Championship - Year 2

Larry Coker - National Championship - Year 1

Jim Tressel - National Championship - Year 2

Nick Saban - National Championship - Year 4

Pete Carroll - National Championship - Year 3 & 4

Urban Meyer - National Championship - Year 2 & 4

Les Miles - National Championship - Year 3

Nick Saban (again) - National Championship - Year 3 & 5

Gene Chizik - National Championship - Year 2

In fact, if you can deduct anything, it's that if your guy doesn't win a National Championship in his first 5 years in today's game, there is a VERY good chance he's never going to. The only coach who has won a NC in the last 12 years which wasn't in his first five years was Mack Brown at Texas. Took him 8.
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1996 - Neb 55 Mich St 14 That was Saban at Mich St.

I'm not sure where you come up with this, but you should really look more into facts. You've made it more than visibly apparent, your disdain for Bo, we get it.

In the words of Ice Cube, "better check yourself before you wreck yourself"

 
Also, also, I'm not giving Bo a pass or anything. Something needs to change. He has to do something to fix whatever the f#*k is going on here.

Basically, I'm just saying to you, Landomatic: WE F**KING GET IT ALREADY!

 
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Also, also, I'm not giving Bo a pass or anything. Something needs to change. He has to do something to fix whatever the f#*k is going on here.

Basically, I'm just saying to you, Landomatic: WE F**KING GET IT ALREADY!
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BINGO!

 
Landomatic said:
I've seen a lot of discussion that it is common for a coach to hit a slump in their 5th year because of the time it takes to reload or get the right coaches in place or whatever excuse is being thrown out. Well guess what...there's nothing to this theory whatsoever. More excuses and spin jobs. For every coach you can come up with who excelled after a fifth year slump, I can find one that excelled much earlier. Have a look at this...

In the last 12 years...

Bob Stoops - National Championship - Year 2

Larry Coker - National Championship - Year 1

Jim Tressel - National Championship - Year 2

Nick Saban - National Championship - Year 4

Pete Carroll - National Championship - Year 3 & 4

Urban Meyer - National Championship - Year 2 & 4

Les Miles - National Championship - Year 3

Nick Saban (again) - National Championship - Year 3 & 5

Gene Chizik - National Championship - Year 2

In fact, if you can deduct anything, it's that if your guy doesn't win a National Championship in his first 5 years in today's game, there is a VERY good chance he's never going to. The only coach who has won a NC in the last 12 years which wasn't in his first five years was Mack Brown at Texas. Took him 8.
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Landomatic said:
I've seen a lot of discussion that it is common for a coach to hit a slump in their 5th year because of the time it takes to reload or get the right coaches in place or whatever excuse is being thrown out. Well guess what...there's nothing to this theory whatsoever. More excuses and spin jobs. For every coach you can come up with who excelled after a fifth year slump, I can find one that excelled much earlier. Have a look at this...

In the last 12 years...

Bob Stoops - National Championship - Year 2

Larry Coker - National Championship - Year 1

Jim Tressel - National Championship - Year 2

Nick Saban - National Championship - Year 4

Pete Carroll - National Championship - Year 3 & 4

Urban Meyer - National Championship - Year 2 & 4

Les Miles - National Championship - Year 3

Nick Saban (again) - National Championship - Year 3 & 5

Gene Chizik - National Championship - Year 2

In fact, if you can deduct anything, it's that if your guy doesn't win a National Championship in his first 5 years in today's game, there is a VERY good chance he's never going to. The only coach who has won a NC in the last 12 years which wasn't in his first five years was Mack Brown at Texas. Took him 8.
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Not to mention, all these teams have the ability to turn out top 25 recruiting classes year after year, based on the school name alone.

Jesus, I have to stop reading this, because each time I do, I find more dumb a$$ things related to it...

 
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