Adam Taylor to Redshirt

Absolutely nothing to do with his ability. He could play, although limited snaps because of a logjam. Newby can get the ball different ways, so it's not fair to compare and say Newby is better. They are very good at their respective skills.

Cethan Carter's tweet is somewhat telling and I've seen a few people in the know mention it as well, even brought up by girlknowsfootball Cethan said Taylor is the strongest person he knows benches 500 but can only squat 250. I think he thinks it would be better to redshirt and be as strong and as fast as possible vs wasting a year getting minimal carries when he's not quite where he's going to be strength wise later in his career. Very smart move IMO.
This scares the crap out of me, its been well over a year, I would like to think that his knee should be fully healed. I mean he played all last season on it in HS, and then he has had all off season to get it stronger. IDK maybe I'm just being paranoid but IMO that knee should be a hell of alot stronger then it sounds like it is
A lot of the time when freshman come in the can improve their squat very rapidly by simply correcting their form. That was my case anyways and I don't even come from a naturally strong family.
If that number was correct. I have a hard time believing he could be that productive last year and barely be able to squat his body weight. I think there was creative license with that story.

 
What does make me a little nervous is that anyone remember Curt Dukes? He was supposed to be our savior in 2003. Didnt he do something of the sort by going to the coaches and basically saying he wasnt ready or somethin? Resulting in Lord retaining the starting qb spot in '03. And then we never heard from the kid again. He was supposed to be our knight in shining armor before Daily was.
I think Curt Dukes was either/both a) not that talented and b)couldn't adjust mentally/emotionally to college football. He did nothing after he left the program.
He transfered to Duke where he was second string & did nothing.
Adam Taylor's redshirt is nothing like Curt Dukes. The local media got all dreamy over Curt Dukes. Said he was supposed to be the next Scott Frost. But it turned out he couldn't hold Jammal Lord's jock strap, let alone play up to the caliber of Lord or Frost. Heck, Curt Dukes got beat out by Joe Dailey. That says volumes.

As for Adam Taylor's redshirt, this is a great thing. He's not going to beat out Abdullah this season, or even Cross for that matter. Why burn a shirt on a handful of garbage plays? As talented as Adam Taylor looks now, he will be much better after a redshirt year.

 
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I don't think the numbers are entirely accurate. I think the numbers were exaggerated, but a truthful message. I don't think he can bench 500, in fact I will say no way he can. Point is, I do think there is a significant difference in his strength from upper to lower, after hearing a few different people say it. Could be bad form, could be he has been scared to put alot of weight on the knee without professional guidance, idk. I'm not going to say that's the reason for wanting to RS.

If I had to guess, I would say he feels like he's not 100 ready to compete at a high level, and he wants to be the best he can be instead of just getting by with a few carries and wasting a year. Why not be used one more year when your faster and stronger and you'll actually be the man, instead of splitting snaps as a freshman?

Either way this was HIS DECISION. And a smart one. Really wanted to see him play. He's going to be special.

 
Historically many of our best have redshirted their freshman year. I think this is good news for the program. It tells me we are beginning to get into reload mode rather than scrambling to fill immediate needs. This is how guys learn, transition, develop, and eventually contribute at a higher level. Some here are just a little gun shy, understandably, after the Heard deal but, that is more the exception than the rule and the circumstances are really not the same with AT. The only caveat being, I am not convinced the mentality of players has not changed and many of them now seem to be more interested in the here and now rather than maybe how they can best contribute to the team in the long haul. If AT is choosing this and he does stick around (which I feel he will), it also would speak volumes to his character.

 
Absolutely nothing to do with his ability. He could play, although limited snaps because of a logjam. Newby can get the ball different ways, so it's not fair to compare and say Newby is better. They are very good at their respective skills.

Cethan Carter's tweet is somewhat telling and I've seen a few people in the know mention it as well, even brought up by girlknowsfootball Cethan said Taylor is the strongest person he knows benches 500 but can only squat 250. I think he thinks it would be better to redshirt and be as strong and as fast as possible vs wasting a year getting minimal carries when he's not quite where he's going to be strength wise later in his career. Very smart move IMO.
This scares the crap out of me, its been well over a year, I would like to think that his knee should be fully healed. I mean he played all last season on it in HS, and then he has had all off season to get it stronger. IDK maybe I'm just being paranoid but IMO that knee should be a hell of alot stronger then it sounds like it is
A lot of the time when freshman come in the can improve their squat very rapidly by simply correcting their form. That was my case anyways and I don't even come from a naturally strong family.
If that number was correct. I have a hard time believing he could be that productive last year and barely be able to squat his body weight. I think there was creative license with that story.
I sure hope you guys are right, After hearing that those numbers where exaggerated it makes me feel alot better. I was really worried when a guy that is built like AT and appears to be as hard to bring down as AT could only squat 250 that his knee was definitely weak and wouldnt hold up to the demands that a football season at this level requires. But since you guys have reassured me that everything will be ok its time for me to get drunk on kool-aid again!
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This thread is really weird to me. A true freshman redshirts and people are wondering what went wrong. This is what should have happened with Heard, Abdullah, and Green. I'm guessing Taylor just happened to be mature enough to handle taking a redshirt. I recall it being said that Heard and Green insisted on playing in their freshmen years and that it was their decision. The only time we needed both of them was in the diamond package, which we rarely used. And IIRC it was never both Heard and Green anyway...

 
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This thread is really weird to me. A true freshman redshirts and people are wondering what went wrong. This is what should have happened with Heard, Abdullah, and Green. I'm guessing Taylor just happened to be mature enough to handle taking a redshirt. I recall it being said that Heard and Green insisted on playing in their freshmen years and that it was their decision. The only time we needed both of them was in the diamond package, which we rarely used. And IIRC it was never both Heard and Green anyway...
. Cause he's that good. Best RB this university has signed in over a decade IMO. He doesn't tear his ACL he's a 5 star no questions asked...and he doesn't come here.
This is my opinion, not only based off film of the way he runs the ball and his skill set, but also his work ethic, and freakish strength.

 
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It could be a number of things

A player can be an absolute physical beast and not be able to consistently run something like a Zone run as efficiently as it needs to be run at the College level- which is a big part of our offense

Some High School kids have never run a Zone play

The landmarks, reads and timing are much different than a base power, sweep or trap type play many HS kids run

It takes a lot of patience to run that play to get the most out of it

Have no knowledge that this is why, but things like that can be part of the reason why

Most good college RBs will squat 1.5+ x their bench

I expect he will be a very good player once it's all said and done

 
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This thread is really weird to me. A true freshman redshirts and people are wondering what went wrong. This is what should have happened with Heard, Abdullah, and Green. I'm guessing Taylor just happened to be mature enough to handle taking a redshirt. I recall it being said that Heard and Green insisted on playing in their freshmen years and that it was their decision. The only time we needed both of them was in the diamond package, which we rarely used. And IIRC it was never both Heard and Green anyway...
Green, Heard, and Abdullah were a very unique situation and it really doesnt apply here. The coaches were really kind of stuck on this one.

Abdullah - Was going to play as he did.

Green - Refused to redshirt when he could have used it and should have.

Heard - Came in a year late. Do you really redshirt him so that he's a 20 year old redshirt freshman? He'd already sat a year.

 
This thread is really weird to me. A true freshman redshirts and people are wondering what went wrong. This is what should have happened with Heard, Abdullah, and Green. I'm guessing Taylor just happened to be mature enough to handle taking a redshirt. I recall it being said that Heard and Green insisted on playing in their freshmen years and that it was their decision. The only time we needed both of them was in the diamond package, which we rarely used. And IIRC it was never both Heard and Green anyway...
Green, Heard, and Abdullah were a very unique situation and it really doesnt apply here. The coaches were really kind of stuck on this one.

Abdullah - Was going to play as he did.

Green - Refused to redshirt when he could have used it and should have.

Heard - Came in a year late. Do you really redshirt him so that he's a 20 year old redshirt freshman? He'd already sat a year.
Yep if need be then yes.

 
This thread is really weird to me. A true freshman redshirts and people are wondering what went wrong. This is what should have happened with Heard, Abdullah, and Green. I'm guessing Taylor just happened to be mature enough to handle taking a redshirt. I recall it being said that Heard and Green insisted on playing in their freshmen years and that it was their decision. The only time we needed both of them was in the diamond package, which we rarely used. And IIRC it was never both Heard and Green anyway...
Green, Heard, and Abdullah were a very unique situation and it really doesnt apply here. The coaches were really kind of stuck on this one.

Abdullah - Was going to play as he did.

Green - Refused to redshirt when he could have used it and should have.

Heard - Came in a year late. Do you really redshirt him so that he's a 20 year old redshirt freshman? He'd already sat a year.
Yep if need be then yes.
So you are a 19 year old kid who hasn't played football for a year and you are asked to redshirt. Which would then make you a 20 year old redshirt freshman and you would be looking at being in school till you were 24. How do you react?

 
This thread is really weird to me. A true freshman redshirts and people are wondering what went wrong. This is what should have happened with Heard, Abdullah, and Green. I'm guessing Taylor just happened to be mature enough to handle taking a redshirt. I recall it being said that Heard and Green insisted on playing in their freshmen years and that it was their decision. The only time we needed both of them was in the diamond package, which we rarely used. And IIRC it was never both Heard and Green anyway...
Green, Heard, and Abdullah were a very unique situation and it really doesnt apply here. The coaches were really kind of stuck on this one.

Abdullah - Was going to play as he did.

Green - Refused to redshirt when he could have used it and should have.

Heard - Came in a year late. Do you really redshirt him so that he's a 20 year old redshirt freshman? He'd already sat a year.
Yep if need be then yes.
So you are a 19 year old kid who hasn't played football for a year and you are asked to redshirt. Which would then make you a 20 year old redshirt freshman and you would be looking at being in school till you were 24. How do you react?
Hint - by choosing a different school. Lol.

Some people.

 
This thread is really weird to me. A true freshman redshirts and people are wondering what went wrong. This is what should have happened with Heard, Abdullah, and Green. I'm guessing Taylor just happened to be mature enough to handle taking a redshirt. I recall it being said that Heard and Green insisted on playing in their freshmen years and that it was their decision. The only time we needed both of them was in the diamond package, which we rarely used. And IIRC it was never both Heard and Green anyway...
Green, Heard, and Abdullah were a very unique situation and it really doesnt apply here. The coaches were really kind of stuck on this one.

Abdullah - Was going to play as he did.

Green - Refused to redshirt when he could have used it and should have.

Heard - Came in a year late. Do you really redshirt him so that he's a 20 year old redshirt freshman? He'd already sat a year.
Yep if need be then yes.
So you are a 19 year old kid who hasn't played football for a year and you are asked to redshirt. Which would then make you a 20 year old redshirt freshman and you would be looking at being in school till you were 24. How do you react?
And its known that RB's have a short "shelf life"

 
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