Decked
Heisman Trophy Winner
Toure + Stepp and maybe one other transfer will help spark the offense a lot. We really, really need a spring and summer for max development.
Adrian Martinez
- Thread starter 308_Husker
- Start date
No doubt. No bowl games....missed practices with Covid...Hoping the old "we are due" finally happens.
Guy Chamberlin
Heisman Trophy Winner
Well that puts Martinez and Frost in an even odder position.
Does Martinez want to go through the hard work and unnecessary academic year to play two more full seasons? With three years as a starter under his belt, does Martinez have any realistic shot at the NFL?
And to my original point, McCaffrey was praised for winning a game with modest Martinez-like stats. Then when he lost a game with bad Martinez-like stats, we went back to Martinez. Who was, in fact, the better quarterback. But he also had three years under his belt in Frost's system. We seem to think Martinez can clean up his errant downfield throws, occasional bad decision making, and turnovers in his forth season as a stater, but we're also declaring freshman McCaffrey a washout who can't be expected to correct similar deficits. Do you give Adrian Martinez a fourth and fifth year to become a competitive Big 10 quarterback, while not allowing a McCaffrey or Smothers the same mistakes or learning curve?
runningblind
All-American
The bolded statement is where you're getting hung up I think. Luke simply doesn't have the arm talent to be a D1 quarterback, Adrian does. Nothing wrong with that, he could be special at another spot. You can work to overcome mental mistakes, improve the play of those around a QB etc., but you can't overcome a guy who simply can't make the throws.
Smothers will be the backup this season, and Adrian might well leave with a solid year in 2020. Smothers could still be a redshirt freshman after this year if they don't burn it, and have 4 years still in front of him to play.
whateveritis1224
All-Conference
I'd follow you, but Martinez has shown to be a good QB option in his freshman year. He's been TO prone, but none of NU's QBs have been particularly safe with the ball for about 20 years. McCaffery, IMO, has shown enough in his time as QB to know that while he's a good runner, he's limited in passing and pushing the ball down the field. Martinez has the arm strength and has a number of throws on tape that prove he can get the ball down the field. We have no clue about Smothers.
Savage Husker
All-Conference
They need depth and QB depth especially. It sounds like Frost is holding back? Ugh, it explains a lot
runningblind
All-American
I didn't catch an actual plan in that. I heard things they're not going to do and things they'd like to have happen but that just feels like yet more coach speak.
The plan is this ... "we are gonna get this fixed" ... which has been repeated each of the last three years. This motto/mantra is getting to the equivalent of what a politician usually bleeds after getting put into office. If Scott entered into the Shark Tank, he would get eaten up and spit out ... especially by Kevin O'Leary [Mr. Wonderful]. I'm actually not a fan of Mr. O'Leary, but I'm taking on his type of attitude moving forward. Scott has his coaching staff, his guys [his own selections] ... so, both him and Moos no longer get a "pass" on "we are gonna get this fixed" ... IMHO.
Here's the quote that has me scratching my head......
“Just a little more instinctual things — things he’s going to encounter in a game,” said Frost, who won a national title quarterbacking the Huskers in 1997, then played as an NFL safety trying to pick off quarterbacks. “Mario does an unbelievable job getting them prepared. Our quarterbacks never go into a game without knowing everything they’re supposed to do. I think just continuing to talk to Adrian about off-the-field things, drill work, to make some things that may not be natural just instinctual for him. Really dialing in on making sure there’s efficiency, and no mistakes. Adrian’s hungry for those things.”
To the bolded, WTH does Verduzco do? AM is hungry to actually do the things QB's do? Verduzco works on the "system", but it doesn't translate to actually being "better"? SMH.....
“Just a little more instinctual things — things he’s going to encounter in a game,” said Frost, who won a national title quarterbacking the Huskers in 1997, then played as an NFL safety trying to pick off quarterbacks. “Mario does an unbelievable job getting them prepared. Our quarterbacks never go into a game without knowing everything they’re supposed to do. I think just continuing to talk to Adrian about off-the-field things, drill work, to make some things that may not be natural just instinctual for him. Really dialing in on making sure there’s efficiency, and no mistakes. Adrian’s hungry for those things.”
To the bolded, WTH does Verduzco do? AM is hungry to actually do the things QB's do? Verduzco works on the "system", but it doesn't translate to actually being "better"? SMH.....
The more I read, the more concerned I become. We have not been short on talent. Some have stayed, some have left and some have gotten injured or didn't pan out....Got to develop them. We are lacking in this....For Frost to be an offensive guru, we look like crap. There is no way to sugar coat it. IMHO, he is in over his head right now....And it shows. Getting Lubbick more involved shows growth. Taking over working with AM shows growth......Hope it starts to show results. Jury is out on that.BlitzFirst said: