And we complain about Bo!!!

4skers89 said:
Interesting opposing opinion http://www.cnn.com/2...html?hpt=hp_bn7 from a woman.
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I don't even want to read it, after the title. The firing was completely warranted. Any article disagreeing isn't even worth the reading. You don't shove players the way he did, and some of the regions the ball was thrown, was not right. I am fine with throwing the ball at the kids feet, but anything higher than the feet is simply abuse. The shoving and pulling is way over done. I am surprised Rutgers didn't fire him from the beginning. If I was one of the parents of those kids, I wouldn't be happy. I would be demanding an apology. I am all for discipline, but there is a line to be drawn. He crossed that line on more than 1.2.3.5.. 15 occasions. To remind you, this is only what was caught on tape.

 
HuskerNationNick said:
4skers89 said:
Interesting opposing opinion http://www.cnn.com/2...html?hpt=hp_bn7 from a woman.
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I don't even want to read it, after the title. The firing was completely warranted. Any article disagreeing isn't even worth the reading. You don't shove players the way he did, and some of the regions the ball was thrown, was not right. I am fine with throwing the ball at the kids feet, but anything higher than the feet is simply abuse. The shoving and pulling is way over done. I am surprised Rutgers didn't fire him from the beginning. If I was one of the parents of those kids, I wouldn't be happy. I would be demanding an apology. I am all for discipline, but there is a line to be drawn. He crossed that line on more than 1.2.3.5.. 15 occasions. To remind you, this is only what was caught on tape.
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I'm not disagreeing but this caught my attention:

"Yes he went overboard. But you can't get a good feeling for what went down by seeing highlights on ESPN. No one was scared of Coach Rice. We didn't fear him. We just understood him," Mike Coburn, who played for Rice from 2010-11, told New Jersey's Star Ledger.
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Bo's toughness (or what some might call abusiveness, which I disagree with) would be much more tolerated and accepted if he had one or two conference championships under his belt, and his demeanor totally ignored if he had a national championship.......case-in-point Bobby Knight, who made Mike Rice look like Mother Theresa with his behavior, and got away with it because Bobby Knight WON and Mike Rice did not. http://www2.indystar.com/library/factfiles/people/k/knight_bob/knight.html

 
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Husker John said:
Bo's toughness (or what some might call abusiveness, which I disagree with) would be much more tolerated and accepted if he had one or two conference championships under his belt, and his demeanor totally ignored if he had a national championship.......case-in-point Bobby Knight, who made Mike Rice look like Mother Theresa with his behavior, and got away with it because Bobby Knight WON and Mike Rice did not. http://www2.indystar...bob/knight.html
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Or Nick Saban slapping his players on the back during a rage out ...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRjDVsw-eQU

17 seconds of yelling and then hitting him.

Much worse than Bo and Taylor or Bo and Stafford.

 
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Husker John said:
Bo's toughness (or what some might call abusiveness, which I disagree with) would be much more tolerated and accepted if he had one or two conference championships under his belt, and his demeanor totally ignored if he had a national championship.......case-in-point Bobby Knight, who made Mike Rice look like Mother Theresa with his behavior, and got away with it because Bobby Knight WON and Mike Rice did not. http://www2.indystar...bob/knight.html
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Ba-ching.

yesterday, SVP and Rusillo were speculating on the reaction there would be if tape of this kind of thing surfaced Coach K or Nick Saban. On the Saban part they said...

"If this happened at Bama to Saban, do you think Saban would get fired? No, they would just say 'whatever' giggles 'we'll see you in the BCS championship game' ". More laughing.

That's the difference in perspective.

Go back to Solich's firing and the dead horse that is and all the speculation about issues in his personal life that supposedly were the real reason for his firing. If he goes 12-2 in 2002 and 14-0 or 13-1 in 2003, do you really think he gets fired for supposed personal reasons?

This is just a dirty fact of life.

 
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Husker John said:
Bo's toughness (or what some might call abusiveness, which I disagree with) would be much more tolerated and accepted if he had one or two conference championships under his belt, and his demeanor totally ignored if he had a national championship.......case-in-point Bobby Knight, who made Mike Rice look like Mother Theresa with his behavior, and got away with it because Bobby Knight WON and Mike Rice did not. http://www2.indystar...bob/knight.html
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Ba-ching.

yesterday, SVP and Rusillo were speculating on the reaction there would be if tape of this kind of thing surfaced Coach K or Nick Saban. On the Saban part they said...

"If this happened at Bama to Saban, do you think Saban would get fired? No, they would just say 'whatever' giggles 'we'll see you in the BCS championship game' ". More laughing.

That's the difference in perspective.

Go back to Solich's firing and the dead horse that is and all the speculation about issues in his personal life that supposedly were the real reason for his firing. If he goes 12-2 in 2002 and 14-0 or 13-1 in 2003, do you really think he gets fired for supposed personal reasons?

This is just a dirty fact of life.
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Under Pedersen? No. Under Tom? Maybe...

It is a dirty fact of life, but it's one that we, at Nebraska, don't really have to experience as much. And for that I'm thankful.

 
Bo is one of the more entertaining coaches to watch on the sidelines. I don't know what all the fuss is about.

 
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He either looks lost, or he's literally losing his mind the entire time.

 
I watched the Saban video... and I think Bo's demeanor gets more attention because he's much more funny-looking when he's angry.

 
Bo is old school. That is his main problem. Old school on TV does not fly well with todays parents. Most have never yelled at their kids let alone smack them on the butt. Child abuse. I am nearly 66 years old, got my butt beat on a regular basis, and deserved I am sure. My son is 43 and has bottom spanked when needed. Todays world is different. I think that is the reason we have so many problems with kids. Lower high school graduation rates, young teen pregnancies rising.

Charlie Bryant was my high school football coach, starting left guard for Nebraska many years ago. Swung a mean paddle, which I caught several times in high school.

I have no problem with Bo's actions or how he disciplines kids, just where he does it.

I would hate to think if some of these kids actually attended Marine Corps boot camp in the 60's and before. You got the crap knocked out of you when you screwed up. Maybe not always the drill instructor, but the platoon took care of problem children.

Was this guy over the top. I am sure he was for todays culture, but not a lot different than Bobby Knight, and a Mr. Devaney at times I heard. Hard nosed, get your attention never hurt anyone. Some times a TimeOUt is not enough.

Overall we are a softer culture. Less physical. I have not watched the video. Really not interested. Have had much worse done to me I am sure. And I made it through. These kids call themselves warriors, not so much in reality.

Old school is gone, and today's coaches need to understand that to fit in. We have one, but he is a smart man and is learning when, how and where to make corrections. Sign of a good coach.

 
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