whateveritis1224
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I think Pelini might have cracked the mobile QB code after the Ohio State game. Colter did absolutely nothing and Robinson was sufficiently corralled until he got hurt.
NW helped us out by not playing Colter at QB very much. No idea why.I think Pelini might have cracked the mobile QB code after the Ohio State game. Colter did absolutely nothing and Robinson was sufficiently corralled until he got hurt.
Because he wasn't doing anything when he was QB.NW helped us out by not playing Colter at QB very much. No idea why.I think Pelini might have cracked the mobile QB code after the Ohio State game. Colter did absolutely nothing and Robinson was sufficiently corralled until he got hurt.
Robinson wasn't hurting us too badly. We'll see.
Yes I agree Lavonte did make up his learning curve with speed, but he was never out of position as consistently as we were last year especially in the CCG. Although I would rather have speed than what we had last year, but we don't have David anymore. Hopefully these young backers will be able to step in and do what he did though, while knowing their position well.I'm sorry accountability, but I pride myself on film watching and an understanding of the game. I'm no guru by any means but I'm smarter than the average bear by quite a bit and I can tell you now.......no, just no. You sir are wrong. We were out of position constantly. Poor per snap recognition, especially at the safety and LB spots. Compton took his first step in the wrong direction almost every play of the season right along with Whaley. There was no communication going on out there at all between defensive players and it was very very apparent. I constantly watched guys take themselves out of plays, or at the least putting themselves in position to be easily blocked out of making a play.If you watched film from last year (and knew what you were looking for-I'm not saying you dont) you would see that last year was actually a case of mostly being IN position but having even less than medium speed.As far as our D being more experienced last year vs. the speed (supposedly) this year. Well, I would take medium speed and being in position all or most of the time then a lot of speed and out of position. Last year I believe we had a mix of both medium speed and mostly out of position.
I will say this though. I completely disagree with Husker freak. I'd rather have speed. Speed can make up for a lot in Bo's scheme. Last year we had slow guys that were thinking too much. I'd rather have guys who can make up for all the thinking Bo makes them do......in my opinion, in this defense, your never going to have a solid unit of 11 find themselves in position all the time. So with that said, just put the fast guys on the field and let them fly around and make plays. Lavonte did it successfully.
The assumption across our fanbase is that the defense will struggle because they are young/inexperience. This may well be the likelihood, but if (IF) they hit the ground running? Certainly a possibility....I would say based on questions of the defense, 10-2 or 11-1 is a fair assessment. I wouldn't have been surprised if they said 9-3 or 8-4 either.
Our defense actually pretty really well that game outside the one run by Venric Mark.NW helped us out by not playing Colter at QB very much. No idea why.I think Pelini might have cracked the mobile QB code after the Ohio State game. Colter did absolutely nothing and Robinson was sufficiently corralled until he got hurt.
Robinson wasn't hurting us too badly. We'll see.
While your instances are correct, I guess we disagree on the reasoning. Compton taking a false step is not a scheme issue. It's a talent/mental recognition issue. The scheme using the dline in a 2 gap to gobble up blockers to free up safeties and linebackers to make tackles worked for the most part. Plays were properly funneled. But when you lack overall athleticism and talent at those positions (physical and mental) you always become a few steps behind. The 2 yard gains turn into 5. The incomplete passes turn into 20 yard gains. Or like the CCG, the one on one tackles for loss turn into 60 yard TD runs. Guys were in position, but lacked the speed to close the deal. LaVonte David had the speed to close the deal.I'm sorry accountability, but I pride myself on film watching and an understanding of the game. I'm no guru by any means but I'm smarter than the average bear by quite a bit and I can tell you now.......no, just no. You sir are wrong. We were out of position constantly. Poor per snap recognition, especially at the safety and LB spots. Compton took his first step in the wrong direction almost every play of the season right along with Whaley. There was no communication going on out there at all between defensive players and it was very very apparent. I constantly watched guys take themselves out of plays, or at the least putting themselves in position to be easily blocked out of making a play.If you watched film from last year (and knew what you were looking for-I'm not saying you dont) you would see that last year was actually a case of mostly being IN position but having even less than medium speed.As far as our D being more experienced last year vs. the speed (supposedly) this year. Well, I would take medium speed and being in position all or most of the time then a lot of speed and out of position. Last year I believe we had a mix of both medium speed and mostly out of position.
I will say this though. I completely disagree with Husker freak. I'd rather have speed. Speed can make up for a lot in Bo's scheme. Last year we had slow guys that were thinking too much. I'd rather have guys who can make up for all the thinking Bo makes them do......in my opinion, in this defense, your never going to have a solid unit of 11 find themselves in position all the time. So with that said, just put the fast guys on the field and let them fly around and make plays. Lavonte did it successfully.
I apologize for opening that can of worms. But it is what it is. More times than not a black qb is faster than a white one. I'm just gonna leave it at that. I have chickenly checked myself right out of my own trouble now.devnet said:While your instances are correct, I guess we disagree on the reasoning. Compton taking a false step is not a scheme issue. It's a talent/mental recognition issue. The scheme using the dline in a 2 gap to gobble up blockers to free up safeties and linebackers to make tackles worked for the most part. Plays were properly funneled. But when you lack overall athleticism and talent at those positions (physical and mental) you always become a few steps behind. The 2 yard gains turn into 5. The incomplete passes turn into 20 yard gains. Or like the CCG, the one on one tackles for loss turn into 60 yard TD runs. Guys were in position, but lacked the speed to close the deal. LaVonte David had the speed to close the deal.
As far as the communication aspect, we see complaining on the board all the time of the supposed "frantic" talk going on before the snap. That is communication. Guys checking up, making sure everythings sound. Saying there is no communication is false. Theyre always chatting before the play. Sometimes too much.
I'm not trying to make excuses for the D. It was porous on a good day last year. We all know that. But I'm not gonna concede that the players had no clue what they were doing. They just really lacked that athleticism to close the deal.
This play sums up the unathleticism of our D a year ago. This is our safety. The guy that catches him from behind is a backup, white qb. Slowing down or not, a TD there shouldve been a given.
Did you also come from a naturally strong family?devnet said:While your instances are correct, I guess we disagree on the reasoning. Compton taking a false step is not a scheme issue. It's a talent/mental recognition issue. The scheme using the dline in a 2 gap to gobble up blockers to free up safeties and linebackers to make tackles worked for the most part. Plays were properly funneled. But when you lack overall athleticism and talent at those positions (physical and mental) you always become a few steps behind. The 2 yard gains turn into 5. The incomplete passes turn into 20 yard gains. Or like the CCG, the one on one tackles for loss turn into 60 yard TD runs. Guys were in position, but lacked the speed to close the deal. LaVonte David had the speed to close the deal.
As far as the communication aspect, we see complaining on the board all the time of the supposed "frantic" talk going on before the snap. That is communication. Guys checking up, making sure everythings sound. Saying there is no communication is false. Theyre always chatting before the play. Sometimes too much.
I'm not trying to make excuses for the D. It was porous on a good day last year. We all know that. But I'm not gonna concede that the players had no clue what they were doing. They just really lacked that athleticism to close the deal.
This play sums up the unathleticism of our D a year ago. This is our safety. The guy that catches him from behind is a backup, white qb. Slowing down or not, a TD there shouldve been a given.
No sh#t. Talk about needing to "check yourself" Devnet's the one that crossed a threshold here. :lol:While your instances are correct, I guess we disagree on the reasoning. Compton taking a false step is not a scheme issue. It's a talent/mental recognition issue. The scheme using the dline in a 2 gap to gobble up blockers to free up safeties and linebackers to make tackles worked for the most part. Plays were properly funneled. But when you lack overall athleticism and talent at those positions (physical and mental) you always become a few steps behind. The 2 yard gains turn into 5. The incomplete passes turn into 20 yard gains. Or like the CCG, the one on one tackles for loss turn into 60 yard TD runs. Guys were in position, but lacked the speed to close the deal. LaVonte David had the speed to close the deal.
As far as the communication aspect, we see complaining on the board all the time of the supposed "frantic" talk going on before the snap. That is communication. Guys checking up, making sure everythings sound. Saying there is no communication is false. Theyre always chatting before the play. Sometimes too much.
I'm not trying to make excuses for the D. It was porous on a good day last year. We all know that. But I'm not gonna concede that the players had no clue what they were doing. They just really lacked that athleticism to close the deal.
This play sums up the unathleticism of our D a year ago. This is our safety. The guy that catches him from behind is a backup, white qb. Slowing down or not, a TD there shouldve been a given.
If the defense hits the ground running, or has only a few hiccups, we're 8-0 heading into Ann Arbor with a solid shot at beating the Wolverines at home. We do that and we likely go to the CCG undefeated.The assumption across our fanbase is that the defense will struggle because they are young/inexperience. This may well be the likelihood, but if (IF) they hit the ground running? Certainly a possibility....I would say based on questions of the defense, 10-2 or 11-1 is a fair assessment. I wouldn't have been surprised if they said 9-3 or 8-4 either.