robsker said:jimk said:What are the ave. sizes for the big 12?
That I have not seen... but they are bigger than NU and smaller than the average B10. At least that is what the article I am drawing from implies. Specifically, The article that gave the 219 RB, 230 OLB, 250 MLB numbers for the B10 and stated that they were "much bigger" than the B12 --- and the gist was that the B10 was slower and bigger and the B12 was faster and smaller and that this would make an interesting situation when NU joins the B10 as they stated that NU was small and fast --- even by B12 standards. The content from the article (in a Wisconsin newspaper) whose content was relayed to be a friend there basically said that it would be interesting to see how the B10 handles the NU speed (on O and D) and how NU handles the B10 physicality. This got me thinking... and hence the post.
Thank you, I posted a roster on one of the very first posts, thinking that would show that this thread is underappreciating NU's size. Making the question raised in this thread a "non-issue". Apparently it didn't get read.Did you pull those numbers from thin air?robsker said:HuskerJosh said:I disagree with the entire premise that players are so much "bigger and tougher" in the Big Ten.
That they are bigger is not an issue for opinion. Their RB's average 219 pounds --- our RB's for next year --- Rex (202), Aaron green (185) are much smaller. The B10 OLB'ers are 230 on average --- we have L. David at 205-210 or so) E. Martin at 215, S. Fisher at what 205? Their MLBers' are 250 on average. Compton is our heaviest and he is perhaps 230. No... there is no doubt that the B10 is a "bigger" conference. No opinion. Fact.
Tougher? Who knows.. But 20 hits a game to your QB when those hitting him are comparable in size up to perhaps 20 pounds heaver versus 20 hits a game against guys weighing 30-45 pounds more than your QB... that is quite a difference.
I think few would logically argue against the notion that the B10 teams that are much larger are more physical than the teams we lined up against, on average, this year.
Burkhead is 210, David is 210 with only a few months in our strength program, he will pack on 15 lbs of muscle by next year. Compton is around 225 right now, Fisher is 235, Martin is 240, Whaley is 225.
If you look at the top 4 teams in the Big Ten (Wisconsin, Iowa, Ohio State and Michigan State) here are the averages (took top 2 running backs at each school for the average)
DE- 275
DT- 285
OLB- 230
MLB- 227
RB- 218
Here's what NU is looking at next year. Looks pretty close across the board, but we probably need a little more beef at DE. If David packs on 15 lbs our average OLB would be 230. In other words, you are WAY off base.
DE- 263
DT- 288
OLB- 223 (assuming David doesn't add weight)
MLB- 225
RB- 220 (Burkhead and Robinson)
NEBRASKA FOOTBALL: Husker Monday Review - ISU
Cyclones exposed NU weaknesses that Big Ten could further exploit
By Samuel McKewon
November 07, 2010
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Kyler Reed and Rex Burkhead were two important weapons Saturday.
Welcome to the Big Ten.
You probably didn't see that banner hanging at Jack Trice Stadium Saturday afternoon. It wasn't physically there. But in spirit, Nebraska's new league hovered over its 31-30 overtime win at Iowa State.
In size, structure and athletes, the Cyclones are the Big 12's best impression of the Big Ten. ISU's receivers and tight end were a load for NU's secondary to cover and tackle. Iowa State wasn't fast, but it was tough, making clever foot tackles on Husker running backs Rex Burkhead and Roy Helu just before they burst into the clear. Paul Rhoads' defense deliberately kept everything in front of it.
The Cyclones' big offensive line frequently managed Nebraska's exotic blitzes, holding occasionally – and getting away with it. Happens all the time in the Big Ten, where the tackles are the size of a tugboat and nearly impossible to bull rush.
The Brothers Pelini rolled the dice with a relatively smallish defense that again kept the equivalent of four safeties on the field and just one linebacker in LaVonte David. From this vantage point – it didn't work. ISU ran 16 more plays and picked up nine more first downs. Despite throwing 20 more passes, ISU won the time of possession battle.
As well as Nebraska matched up with Missouri's offense and defense, it matched up poorly with Iowa State. And the Huskers will see better versions of the Cyclones' template – see Ohio State, Penn State, Iowa and Michigan State, among others – in the Big Ten.
Brian Dobson knows his shiz....he'll put a lil beef on em. I wouldn't try to put too much on though obviously.In today's press conference, Bo addressed the issue and said he believes that we will play "a little bigger" next year
I knew a JAMES Dobson or Dobs as we called him when I was there. And, yes he knew what he was doing. He took a lot of things that Kennedy had ran the previous years and threw them out the door. Dobson has a bright future in the biz.Brian Dobson knows his shiz....he'll put a lil beef on em. I wouldn't try to put too much on though obviously.In today's press conference, Bo addressed the issue and said he believes that we will play "a little bigger" next year