Baker Steinkuhler

From whom did Rivals get their information? This is a fairly big development if it's true because we'll see even more dropoff on the d-line & noted improvement on the o-line, and both are a big deal in the upcoming season. Are there any other sources that can confirm what appears to be a hunch from Rivals?

 
Here's my guesses as to what this means: (most likely to least likely)

1. This is just a rumor. Baker stays on the DL.

2. Baker is not playing DT as well as expected and/or he is going to be passed on the depth chart by another player.

3. We have more need for him on the OL than the DL (due to depth or skill, or both).

I'm not sure what all this talk of Baker being a 5 star talent means. Just because a recruiting site said that he has potential doesn't mean we should all assume he will be great. Remember Marlon Lucky! He's a great example of how being so over-hyped by fans and the media can arguably harm a kid.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
If the coaches are talking about moving him its because someone is good enough to replace him. I see that as a good thing. I guess we shall see

 
ESPY said:
From whom did Rivals get their information? This is a fairly big development if it's true because we'll see even more dropoff on the d-line & noted improvement on the o-line, and both are a big deal in the upcoming season. Are there any other sources that can confirm what appears to be a hunch from Rivals?
Click to expand...
Perhaps there is some basis for this. On Jan. 4th, This article was publlished by HuskerLocker.

In it, they discuss the D-line

How does Bo adjust to life without Suh? No. 93 can’t be replaced, so that option is out. But the remaining pieces on the defensive line - Jared Crick is chief among them - are pretty solid. Of course NU retains a base four-man look, with Crick at his spot, Terrence Moore plugging the nose, and Pierre Allen and Cameron Meredith crashing on the ends.
Click to expand...
No mention of Baker?

Later they discuss possible defensive "wrinkles"

What defensive wrinkles get unfurled in 2010? One option just to chew on: A three-man line that kicks Crick out to a hybrid tackle/end, uses a heftier Meredith at the other end, and sticks Moore - or maybe true freshman Jay Guy at that true nose tackle spot. We suspect Bo and Carl get creative with the players on hand.
Click to expand...
Again, they talke about Crick, Meredith and Jay Guy at tackle, but not Baker.

When I saw this, I wondered why they ignored Steiny. It's possible they've heard coaching staff chatter about a possible move, I suppose. I suspect we'll hear more before spring practice.

Personally, if the Pelini's think we have good depth on the d-line without him, I find an offensive tackle tandem of Baker and Yoshi (might Smith move to Center?) very interesting.

 
Good find RunTheBall. When it comes to news like this, I think we all prefer more resources as confirmation. I agree it will definitely be interesting to see what happens with the onset of spring ball. Honestly if the coaches think BS would be better utilized on the O-line, then I'm sure they're right on. If in fact this move does happen, you'd have to think not only the O-line will improve vastly (on paper) but also the play at our skill positions. More time in the pocket for the QB and better lanes for runners are exactly what the offense needs to prove its performance vs AZ was more than just an aberration.

 
Baker couldn't probably have played OL this year after his medical condition caused him to lose so much weight. He may just be getting back up to playing size for OL.

 
Why is it that after his first 2 years in the program 5 Star recruit Marlon Lucky was being called a bust by some of the blowhards of Husker Nation while 5 Star recruit Baker Steinkuhler hasn’t been, even though Lucky’s production after the first two years would trump Baker’s? Is it because people demanded more out of Lucky then they do out of Baker? Is it because of Baker’s bloodlines? Is it because Lucky is from California and Baker is Nebraska born and raised? Is it the Callahan vs. Pelini factor? I’m not saying either of them was/is a bust I am just curious as to why. :dunno

 
newearthhusker said:
Why is it that after his first 2 years in the program 5 Star recruit Marlon Lucky was being called a bust by some of the blowhards of Husker Nation while 5 Star recruit Baker Steinkuhler hasn’t been, even though Lucky’s production after the first two years would trump Baker’s? Is it because people demanded more out of Lucky then they do out of Baker? Is it because of Baker’s bloodlines? Is it because Lucky is from California and Baker is Nebraska born and raised? Is it the Callahan vs. Pelini factor? I’m not saying either of them was/is a bust I am just curious as to why. :dunno
Click to expand...
Probably b/c he's been stuck behind a great defensive line, specifically some great DTs, and none of us have seen him play. You can't call someone a bust or a stud without seeing them play. Marlon came in and played from day 1 as an all-star RB. A RB has a much better chance of seeing the field earlier than a DT.

Also, his 5star status can as an O-lineman and he's been practicing as a DT.

 
newearthhusker said:
Why is it that after his first 2 years in the program 5 Star recruit Marlon Lucky was being called a bust by some of the blowhards of Husker Nation while 5 Star recruit Baker Steinkuhler hasn’t been, even though Lucky’s production after the first two years would trump Baker’s? Is it because people demanded more out of Lucky then they do out of Baker? Is it because of Baker’s bloodlines? Is it because Lucky is from California and Baker is Nebraska born and raised? Is it the Callahan vs. Pelini factor? I’m not saying either of them was/is a bust I am just curious as to why. :dunno
Click to expand...
I believe it is all of the things you mentioned balled up into one giant terd ball for us to stare at.

But, more or less, I believe it has more to do with expectations. When Lucky got here we had no returning dominant rusher other than perhaps Cory Ross. People expected Lucky to come in here, put the team on his back, and carry us to great things and maybe a couple of Heisman Trophies.

Baker, on the other hand, has the potential to be great but had to sit behind a guy like Suh. Nobody really fussed about Baker because we had Suh tearing up opposing offensive lines.

Imagine if a guy like Mike Rozier was our running back the first year or two that Lucky was here. Nobody would have said much about Lucky. But, given his recruiting status and the hype everyone gave him, we expected him to be dominating and he fell short.

 
newearthhusker said:
Why is it that after his first 2 years in the program 5 Star recruit Marlon Lucky was being called a bust by some of the blowhards of Husker Nation while 5 Star recruit Baker Steinkuhler hasn’t been, even though Lucky’s production after the first two years would trump Baker’s? Is it because people demanded more out of Lucky then they do out of Baker? Is it because of Baker’s bloodlines? Is it because Lucky is from California and Baker is Nebraska born and raised? Is it the Callahan vs. Pelini factor? I’m not saying either of them was/is a bust I am just curious as to why. :dunno
Click to expand...
When given the chance Marlon Lucky was a bust just like Leodis Flowers(Omaha Central) was in the late 80's and early 90's. Most Nebraska fans can figure out when a IB or RB is not up to par by the lack of productivity when it's harder to compare Defensive lineman production.(or were you expecting Stein to dominate the games like SUH in the few times he was in?)

 
newearthhusker said:
Why is it that after his first 2 years in the program 5 Star recruit Marlon Lucky was being called a bust by some of the blowhards of Husker Nation while 5 Star recruit Baker Steinkuhler hasn’t been, even though Lucky’s production after the first two years would trump Baker’s? Is it because people demanded more out of Lucky then they do out of Baker? Is it because of Baker’s bloodlines? Is it because Lucky is from California and Baker is Nebraska born and raised? Is it the Callahan vs. Pelini factor? I’m not saying either of them was/is a bust I am just curious as to why. :dunno
Click to expand...
Was this directed about my comment about extremely high expectations being detrimental to Marlon Lucky? If so . . . I've never thought he was a bust and so far as I can remember I've never said that he was a bust. Check out my post again. I was talking about how the high expectations made his life difficult. I remember public comments from Marlon about how the expectations of Husker fans loomed over him. There was even the strange and unfortunate situation with the prescription drugs. :dunno

All I was saying is that the hype can make life more difficult for these players.

If your statement was just in general and not directed towards my post, I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
SkerChicago said:
newearthhusker said:
Why is it that after his first 2 years in the program 5 Star recruit Marlon Lucky was being called a bust by some of the blowhards of Husker Nation while 5 Star recruit Baker Steinkuhler hasn’t been, even though Lucky’s production after the first two years would trump Baker’s? Is it because people demanded more out of Lucky then they do out of Baker? Is it because of Baker’s bloodlines? Is it because Lucky is from California and Baker is Nebraska born and raised? Is it the Callahan vs. Pelini factor? I’m not saying either of them was/is a bust I am just curious as to why. :dunno
Click to expand...
Probably b/c he's been stuck behind a great defensive line, specifically some great DTs, and none of us have seen him play. You can't call someone a bust or a stud without seeing them play. Marlon came in and played from day 1 as an all-star RB. A RB has a much better chance of seeing the field earlier than a DT.

Also, his 5star status can as an O-lineman and he's been practicing as a DT.
Click to expand...
There is also the fact Baker had health issues his first year he had to overcome and will be on medication the rest of his life. He'll be just fine on DEFENSE!!

 
bbeerma2 said:
Baker couldn't probably have played OL this year after his medical condition caused him to lose so much weight. He may just be getting back up to playing size for OL.
Click to expand...
Hopefully the weight he is putting back on is solid weight. I know the S&C has been doing wonders so far.

 
Last edited by a moderator:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top