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95huskers

95huskers

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Its humerous to me that there are several good football knowledge posts here and none of them are gettin attention..... the only ones are those of bashing and or non football facts...... here is my 2 cents! THERE ARE TO MANY BIASED FANS HERE! not looking deep into what the nu program or the game of college football is all about. people here think that its ok to be average and look at average players as good. I AM PERSONALLY SICK (puke) of the "average is ok" mentality.... when are people going to become more than fans and see what is really going on here.... NO TEAM, AND I MEAN NO TEAM, in the d1 ranks has a chance to win a title with coz as d- coordinator. as previously stated by such players as kohl vederal and burrows ruud would not and should not play a down if mcbride or pelini were here but coz sees him as "fundamentally correct'' but doesnt see the playmaking ablity of youngsters. WHY do you as a fan think this is ok? WHY do you as a fan not look at the big picture and see what is going on here? Solich started all this crap because he couldnt recruit or call a damn play on offense.... we all knew what the next play was going to be in his measly few years at nebraska? Look at daily... what a joke he is comparable to such players as ruud shanle and grixby... accept different sides of the ball... we need a change! D-CO out new D-CO in. time to start looking at the big picture husker nation!

 
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I am not sure you have read too many posts on here if that is your attitude. If you don't get the response that you want or find that everyone agrees with you exactly, you assume that everyone is content with being 7-3 and only winning the north and completely content with the coaching decisions? Whatever dude. Many people have criticisms without being jackholes about it, myself included. Tenacity of a post is not going to get Cosgrove fired, change any of their philosophies or make any L's go away.

 
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Some times you take the lesser of two evils.

I hve stated many times we do not have the talent that is needed, both on offense and defense.

But most fans on this board are way more interested in what have we done lately. Win at all cost, do not rock the boat. The defensive staff knows the feelings about them. They are doing everything possible not to lose. Taking experience over youth.

The staff is working on getting the kids to play on offense and defense. It is not an overnite deal. My guess is the people you are wanting to play are not the level they are looking for either. They see them everyday in practice, we don't.

Our problem, or yours is that you think there are kids out there that are the best in the nation just waiting to come to Nebraska. Nothing could be farther from the truth. So rather than getting the cream of the crop we get the 2nd or 3rd level athlete. It takes more time to develop their abilities than the top ones sometimes. Our top youth, is not the top youth in country. Texas, Oklahoma, SC, Auburn, LSU, Ohio State, Michigan and host of others would not be playing them either. We have to understand that we are not nor are we going to be a hot bed for recruiting. We are much better than we were with the option based offense, but still way down the dream list for most of the top athletes in the country. Currently on Rivals, we have one athlete ranked in the top 100. Of the top 100, my estimate is less than 10 have any interest in Nebraska. The above mentioned are on almost every single one of their lists.

We are down on talent, and because of the coaching and decession of who plays and who doesent we have been able to compete with better teams, with better talent.

When we have equal talent to the top 15 programs, then you can complain about the coaching. This staff is getting a lot out of talent base that is well below the top 15 teams in the country. Youth is only the answer if the youth is much better than what you are starting. And if you know what their limitations are. We only assume we know. But none of us are coaches at a BCS level program. Until you are, your insights are less than absolute.

This weekend I heard Corso, Herbstreit, Craig James and Johnny Rodgers make very positive comments about the program and the direction it is headed. They carry far more weight than a couple of bandwagon fans showing up to create negativity.

 
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I am not sure you have read too many posts on here if that is your attitude. If you don't get the response that you want or find that everyone agrees with you exactly, you assume that everyone is content with being 7-3 and only winning the north and completely content with the coaching decisions? Whatever dude. Many people have criticisms without being jackholes about it, myself included. Tenacity of a post is not going to get Cosgrove fired, change any of their philosophies or make any L's go away.
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There are a select few that know what i am talking about and those are the people that i am talking to.. i know there there are alot of ppl out there that agree we need to be more than mediocre and i have seen those posts.. like them alot.. just wondering what everyones mindset is on these subjects

 
skers fan i ask you this. are you saying the staff doesnt feel that thenarse or culbert or young or west are the caliber of players we need. you may not be saying that but if you are then i think red flags should fly up everywhere because those are the players picked by coz to come here. if his recruits are not the caliber we need then that is bad.

P.S. USC, Auburn, Michigan, LSU, and OHIO St all are starting freshmen

 
skersfan said:
Some times you take the lesser of two evils.

I hve stated many times we do not have the talent that is needed, both on offense and defense.

But most fans on this board are way more interested in what have we done lately. Win at all cost, do not rock the boat. The defensive staff knows the feelings about them. They are doing everything possible not to lose. Taking experience over youth.

The staff is working on getting the kids to play on offense and defense. It is not an overnite deal. My guess is the people you are wanting to play are not the level they are looking for either. They see them everyday in practice, we don't.

Our problem, or yours is that you think there are kids out there that are the best in the nation just waiting to come to Nebraska. Nothing could be farther from the truth. So rather than getting the cream of the crop we get the 2nd or 3rd level athlete. It takes more time to develop their abilities than the top ones sometimes. Our top youth, is not the top youth in country. Texas, Oklahoma, SC, Auburn, LSU, Ohio State, Michigan and host of others would not be playing them either. We have to understand that we are not nor are we going to be a hot bed for recruiting. We are much better than we were with the option based offense, but still way down the dream list for most of the top athletes in the country. Currently on Rivals, we have one athlete ranked in the top 100. Of the top 100, my estimate is less than 10 have any interest in Nebraska. The above mentioned are on almost every single one of their lists.

We are down on talent, and because of the coaching and decession of who plays and who doesent we have been able to compete with better teams, with better talent.

When we have equal talent to the top 15 programs, then you can complain about the coaching. This staff is getting a lot out of talent base that is well below the top 15 teams in the country. Youth is only the answer if the youth is much better than what you are starting. And if you know what their limitations are. We only assume we know. But none of us are coaches at a BCS level program. Until you are, your insights are less than absolute.

This weekend I heard Corso, Herbstreit, Craig James and Johnny Rodgers make very positive comments about the program and the direction it is headed. They carry far more weight than a couple of bandwagon fans showing up to create negativity.
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I am nowhere near a bandwagon fan. born into it die as it. I think you make a valid point in stating that we dont have the best talent because we dont and it will take time to get those players. my opinion is that i think by week 10 sum of those players should be starting to show there face more. like culbert and such. I think offensivly our program is making huge strides to become some of the best in the country. But i am a strong believer in defense wins championships and i dont think with the players nor the coaches that we have that we can do that. i see a select few players that are or are going to be outstanding. bowman carricker suh brandenburg octo culbert thenarse. Also with them becoming successfull you need a scheme that puts them in the position to make plays and i havent seen much of that with the coz bend but dont break mentality on D. what happend to the mentality of forcing the issue with the offense. making them react to you instead of the opposite?

 
95huskers----you seem to be quite smart on NU football and how things should be done. so lets see if you can answer this question.

How long was Charlie McBride the defensive coordinator before NU started having the monster defenses like the ones he had in the mid and late 90's?

How many times were people calling for the head of McBride to be served up on a platter because his defensive scheme could not get NU past the likes of OU, FSU, Miami and the list could go on.

Who would you replace Ruud with? a gimpy Octavian.

Do you think that it would be better to fire him and bring in someone new so now all of the players have to learn a whole new scheme? or whould it be better to have more stability, where recruits can look at a program and say wow that coach has been there for a while, and he is going to be my coach for the 3-4 years that i will be playing.

IMO coaching stability is the key to getting the top players to come to your school instead of another if they are riding the fence.

 
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95huskers----you seem to be quite smart on NU football and how things should be done. so lets see if you can answer this question.

How long was Charlie McBride the defensive coordinator before NU started having the monster defenses like the ones he had in the mid and late 90's?

How many times were people calling for the head of McBride to be served up on a platter because his defensive scheme could not get NU past the likes of OU, FSU, Miami and the list could go on.

Who would you replace Ruud with? a gimpy Octavian.

Do you think that it would be better to fire him and bring in someone new so now all of the players have to learn a whole new scheme? or whould it be better to have more stability, where recruits can look at a program and say wow that coach has been there for a while, and he is going to be my coach for the 3-4 years that i will be playing.

IMO coaching stability is the key to getting the top players to come to your school instead of another if they are riding the fence.
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i would rather fire him and look at the big picture here. players arent going to look at him and say wow he has been here along time i wanna play there when our d is giving up 500+ yds to ku they want a coach with fire and intensity to hype them up and highlight their athletic abilities for nfl scouts. a gimpy octo is better than a healthy ruud. sry to say but you seem to disagree... watch the game and key on him and you will see what i am talking about. players do like stability and to be on the highlight reels

 
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rob valid points

mcbride became a legend when he moved safeties to LB LB to End etc more speed etc the great defenses today employ that same strategy

we have now gone back to the big slow LB The big slow end etc a disturbing turn of events now maybe they are looking to change that we shall see

ruud had to play saturday yes but when octo is healthy i would play him instead of ruud. they are the coaches but they should play the best players when possible and i havent seen one person on here say that if both are healthy ruud is better. thenarse and culbert are better than shanle you can see that when they play by the things they do you can also see that by the things shanle doesnt do.

If i have one complaint that is it

but good valid points rob

 
landonhusker said:
skers fan i ask you this. are you saying the staff doesnt feel that thenarse or culbert or young or west are the caliber of players we need. you may not be saying that but if you are then i think red flags should fly up everywhere because those are the players picked by coz to come here. if his recruits are not the caliber we need then that is bad.

P.S. USC, Auburn, Michigan, LSU, and OHIO St all are starting freshmen
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i'm pretty sure that if coz could get all ***** players he would take it, the lure of NU alone won't bring in all the hot prospects. College football is not what it used to be, tradition don't mean squat with most kids these days, they want party central, nice weather, and a sure fire shot at getting to the NFL. if having inexplainable confidence in your team, coaches, and players make me a sunshine pumper, then you better get your sunglasses

 
a quick example tomich 265 wistom 260 kenny walker 255 kelsey 255 vanden bosch 270

then carriker 295

farley 200 demarrio 200 polk 230 bradley 255 brandenburg 255 ruud 250 see the difference id just like to see us get smaller and faster IMO

 
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