BIG 12 NORTH PRESEASON FORECAST
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huskernumerouno
All-American
I am not ready to cast off MU and KU yet. I think it is a 3 team race and it shoukld be fun to watch. All 3 have the positives for a good argument as well as the neg. aspectics to argue that they will not be on top.
Like I said it should be fun.
WTH am I saying HUSKERS ROLL over all
Like I said it should be fun.
WTH am I saying HUSKERS ROLL over all
SaturnDrew
Special Teams Player
I think you've got Kansas State 3 position too high. Let me fix it for you.
1. Nebraska ... Suh and the Blackshirts are set to dominate again
2. Kansas... Still a solid team with Reesing
T-3. Missouri ...Can't recruit in their own state
T-3. Colorado ... Hawkins finally starts to make his mark
5. Iowa State ... They can move the ball, but couldn't stop a D-III team
6. Kansas State ... Snyder can still used to be able to coach
SaturnDrew
Special Teams Player
redout22
Heisman Trophy Winner
I know you arent talking about Nebraska because counting JUCO he has thrown more than two career passes.
HuskerTrucker
All-Conference
Nebraska's defense is far better than Kansas', that will be Kansas' downfall. Plus, if they have an injury on the O-line, or Reesing gets hurt, they are dropping from 2nd to 5th like that. Reesing can't carry their team through a whole season, teams will catch up to that and figure a way to stop him, if not kill him.
The unkown factor is QB for Nebraska and Missouri, but I have to think with the talent that Nebraska has at that position, though they are younger and haven't seen any action, that Nebraska is in better shape potentially than Missouri starting Gabbert. I have to believe that one of Nebraska's QB's will step up and do the job. I also believe in Watson's ability to take what he has and work with it.
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HuskerTrucker
All-Conference
DP <_<
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Fuzzy
All-Conference
Finally someone who sees the weakness in the secondary, ive always thought that the secondary needed work, with both speed, recognition on the play, and actually going for the ball. i saw it alot during last season that secondardies were missing coverages and giving up big gains when it came to passing. Our D-line is down pat, and our LB's is pretty good, but lets face it, our secondary needs help and bad. Ive always thought thought that O'Hanlon was too slow for his position, no offense, i went to school with him when he played for Bellevue East, though i didnt converse with him.
In anycase, like i said the secondary in my opinion needs help, and agree, this along with other minor problems that i see, i feel that Nebraska wont pull off number 1 in the Big 12 north, but then again i believe that anything can happen, and sometime people step up to the plate and shine. Which is what i always and hope and believe will happen this season.
Nebraska #1 Big 12 North. The only true obstacle i see that can keep them from Big 12 North Champs is Mizzou, so beat them Tigers like they owe you 2 seasons of humilating losses.
huskered17
All-Conference
I think Kansas has a much tougher schedual than Missouri. Mizzou has Neb, Tex, and Baylor at home, and the only tough game on the road may be Okl. ST. Their Kansas game is at a neutral site. Kansas may be the 2nd best team if they only counted the win and losses against the north teams, but they don't........
I see Missouri in at least 2nd place. IMHO
GBR!!!
1. Kansas - Going to score tons of points and should have a better D. (Going to win 2 of 3 from the south)
T-2. Nub - Who did the blackshirts dominate again? Only returning 4 starters? To many questions.
T-2. Moo - Could sting nub at home
4. Colorado - Still suck
5. KSU - Anyone else remember snyders last 2 years, now he has Ron's recruits.
6. ISU - Should be a little better than La-Laf.
MUTigerFan
Special Teams Player
With a proven QB and a killer receiving corps, the nod goes to KU. Their defense is suspect, but they will score points.
Mizzou, NU and Colorado are all question marks and tied until they start playing and showing what they've got.
The NU defense (without rose-colored glasses) still gave up at least 20 to everyone in conference but ISU. Unproven O-line, unproven QB, unproven receivers and secondary.
Mizzou - unproven QB, but a very good O-line, a 1000 yard RB, decent experienced receivers. D-line and LB's are experienced and decent. Secondary needs work (at least according to last year). Unproven kickers too.
Colo. - These guys could jump up and cause anyone problems. Hawkins needs to decide who his QB is. Deep at running back and O-line could lead to CU using ball control to stifle opponents.
KSU and ISU - they're the brain damaged uncles you keep in the basement.
Mizzou, NU and Colorado are all question marks and tied until they start playing and showing what they've got.
The NU defense (without rose-colored glasses) still gave up at least 20 to everyone in conference but ISU. Unproven O-line, unproven QB, unproven receivers and secondary.
Mizzou - unproven QB, but a very good O-line, a 1000 yard RB, decent experienced receivers. D-line and LB's are experienced and decent. Secondary needs work (at least according to last year). Unproven kickers too.
Colo. - These guys could jump up and cause anyone problems. Hawkins needs to decide who his QB is. Deep at running back and O-line could lead to CU using ball control to stifle opponents.
KSU and ISU - they're the brain damaged uncles you keep in the basement.
jayhawk
Starter
We had the National Juco offensive player of the year at RB, and he did very, very little for us last year...I know you arent talking about Nebraska because counting JUCO he has thrown more than two career passes.
Oh, and it will be
KU - Best offense, most returning talent. Biggest obstacle is schedule, some more new O-linemen and replacing LBs
NU - Good overall, but secondary and new QB will hurt, pluce play KU in Lawrence
MU - Just lost a lot of good, experienced players.
CU - I see continuous improvement, it is just taking longer than expected
KSU - Snyder's teams were not that good whne he retired, and the talent has dropped
ISU - Brand new Head Coach without a lot f talent. THis is a hard one to call, but the situation lends itself to not a lot of wins....
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I'm pretty confident that Nebraska, Mizzou, Kansas and Colorado will be the top four teams, but predicting the order is pretty difficult. Here goes...
1. KU - when in doubt, go with the team with the best QB (at least that we know so far)
2. NU - D should be best in the North
3. MU - if Gabbert is the real deal the Tigers could easily win the North again.
4. CU - will be better than last year but will lose several close games with costly mistakes
5,6. ISU, KSU - these teams may only get 1 B12 win between them: whoever wins when they play each other
1. KU - when in doubt, go with the team with the best QB (at least that we know so far)
2. NU - D should be best in the North
3. MU - if Gabbert is the real deal the Tigers could easily win the North again.
4. CU - will be better than last year but will lose several close games with costly mistakes
5,6. ISU, KSU - these teams may only get 1 B12 win between them: whoever wins when they play each other
Huskers Forever
Banned
Yeah, most juco RB's never do well in their first year, because the speed of the defenses are so much better in D-1. Zac Lee played in a very competitve leauge in california, and has been in our system for 2 years now, so I really expect him to start off as well as Ganz did. But he is a much more talented QB than Ganz overall. We will just have to wait and see. Our running backs are much better than KU's, so that will take alot of pressure off him.We had the National Juco offensive player of the year at RB, and he did very, very little for us last year...I know you arent talking about Nebraska because counting JUCO he has thrown more than two career passes.
Oh, and it will be
KU - Best offense, most returning talent. Biggest obstacle is schedule, some more new O-linemen and replacing LBs
NU - Good overall, but secondary and new QB will hurt, pluce play KU in Lawrence
MU - Just lost a lot of good, experienced players.
CU - I see continuous improvement, it is just taking longer than expected
KSU - Snyder's teams were not that good whne he retired, and the talent has dropped
ISU - Brand new Head Coach without a lot f talent. THis is a hard one to call, but the situation lends itself to not a lot of wins....
i think it would be harder for a QB to go from Juco speed to D1 than a RB.Yeah, most juco RB's never do well in their first year, because the speed of the defenses are so much better in D-1. Zac Lee played in a very competitve leauge in california, and has been in our system for 2 years now, so I really expect him to start off as well as Ganz did. But he is a much more talented QB than Ganz overall. We will just have to wait and see. Our running backs are much better than KU's, so that will take alot of pressure off him.We had the National Juco offensive player of the year at RB, and he did very, very little for us last year...I know you arent talking about Nebraska because counting JUCO he has thrown more than two career passes.
Oh, and it will be
KU - Best offense, most returning talent. Biggest obstacle is schedule, some more new O-linemen and replacing LBs
NU - Good overall, but secondary and new QB will hurt, pluce play KU in Lawrence
MU - Just lost a lot of good, experienced players.
CU - I see continuous improvement, it is just taking longer than expected
KSU - Snyder's teams were not that good whne he retired, and the talent has dropped
ISU - Brand new Head Coach without a lot f talent. THis is a hard one to call, but the situation lends itself to not a lot of wins....