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Bo in my mind is the best candidate for the job. He is a motivator, he has big time experience with big time schools. He coached in the NFL alongside, he has been D - Cordinator at big time schools such as NU, OU, LSU. Folks he has the resume to warrant the NU job. All the other candidates are winners at glorified high school programs i.e. Buffalo, Cinci, Navy, and although WF is not a glorified high school program they play in a crap conference and is coached by a 100 year old man who has only landed average to well below average coaching jobs in his 100 years on this earth.

I like Turner just as much as the next guy but come on husker fans need to realize that 1983 is never coming back. Just because TG wore the helmet does not make him the best coaching candidate. Remember NU has had a good record of hiring a coach with no prior experience. His name was Tom Osborne who Devaney hand picked having only been at the school for a few years because his offensive mind was bordering on genius. Their have been numerous reports by the media and former players raving about BP's same genius on the defensive side of the ball and that he could be the next Bob Stoops/Urban Meyer. Yes I know he could very well flop as well, but I would rather take a chance on someone who has held coordinator positions at big time schools than head coaches at glorified high schools.

So in summary as you can tell with my emphasis on the words "big time" I want a coach who has this experience with the big boys of college football even if he was only a coordinator rather than a coach who have led nobody schools to the point where people almost care about them.

So there's my rant, fire away TG and high school coach lovers
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I pretty much disagree with everything you say here, underlining notwithstanding. =)

 
Thanks for the post Redtildead. Obviously the boards are stuffed full of coaching opinions and such but I appreciate people who are honest.

I think there are some great points here. There could be several coaches out there who would be a good fit. There are plenty of good performance achievements. The biggest point on Pelini, like you said, is his experience at big time schools who play in the best conferences, against some of the best opponents. That is irreplaceable experience. As people always say, you learn by doing.

Turner Gill is a fantastic coach and individual...no doubt about that. He did great things for Nebraska football as an assistant here and doing great things at Buffalo. Remember that Buffalo was a bottom feeder school. They won something like a total of 4 games over the span of 8 years. They had no program, no players, no organization, nothing. So to come in there and even break .500 is seen as a miracle. When you are starting at the rock bottom with nothing, even some slight improvement is seen as being huge. Not taking away anything from Turner or his team but be cautious when saying just because he has made some things turn around there he can do it here.

There is a lot to be said about the conference your school is playing in. Look at Hawaii. They are undefeated and still ranked #15 or somewhere close. There is a reason for that. They play in a crappy conference where the competition is less than stellar. While there are many things that will make a great head coach, someone who knows what it takes to win at the top level is a huge plus.

 
Redtildead said:
I like Turner just as much as the next guy but come on husker fans need to realize that 1983 is never coming back. Just because TG wore the helmet does not make him the best coaching candidate.
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So the "he played for Nebraska in '83" argument didn't work...how about the "he was named MAC Coach of the Year" argument?

 
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This is why I love message boards, opinions are like a - holes everyone has one
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I found this on one of the lsu message boards, sounds like someone down south is getting email rumors from supposed lsu boosters that Pelini is taking the NU job. But like everything else it is just a rumor but lsu message boards seem to gaining steam on Pelini to NU rumors, kind of interesting, but again I am biased toward Pelini.

http://lsu.rivals.com/showmsg.asp?fid=22&a...886&style=2

 
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knapplc said:
I pretty much disagree with everything you say here, underlining notwithstanding. =)
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Why?
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Because it seems like you’re basing your love of Bo on the fact that he was an NFL assistant and his connection to schools like NU, OU, and LSU. Callahan has a far, far better resume than Pelini, and look how that turned out. The problem with banking on Pelini’s time at NU, OU and LSU is that he was at NU & OU for one year each, and he’s only been at LSU for three years. He’s not playing with players he recruited in NU or OU, so those are difficult to really judge, and at LSU he coached someone else’s players for the first two years. So I think what you’re basing your Bo love on is rather fragile.

To discount the work that Turner Gill has done at Buffalo is… questionable at best. Turner has worked a huge turn-around there, similar (in scale) to what Bill Snyder did at KSU. Nobody is pimping Turner Gill just because he was a great QB at Nebraska – we like him because he is genuinely a good coach. If we were just pimping great old NU quarterbacks we’d be all over Tommie Frazier’s jock for the HC position. It’s not about that. It’s about an ability to build a program, and an ability to do something with that program once it’s built.

Sure, everyone would love to get the next Urban Meyer or Bob Stoops – but who is that guy today? Why isn’t it Jim Grobe? Why isn’t it Paul Kelly? We simply don’t know, but the presumption is that TO does, which is why he’s talking to Bo and Turner.

It’s OK to like Bo Pelini. There’s a strong chance he could be our next HC, and he may do a wonderful job of it. But to discount the other guys, to me you’re going to have to find far better reasons than what you’ve given.

 
Redtildead said:
Bo in my mind is the best candidate for the job. He is a motivator, he has big time experience with big time schools. He coached in the NFL alongside, he has been D - Cordinator at big time schools such as NU, OU, LSU. Folks he has the resume to warrant the NU job. All the other candidates are winners at glorified high school programs i.e. Buffalo, Cinci, Navy, and although WF is not a glorified high school program they play in a crap conference and is coached by a 100 year old man who has only landed average to well below average coaching jobs in his 100 years on this earth.

I like Turner just as much as the next guy but come on husker fans need to realize that 1983 is never coming back. Just because TG wore the helmet does not make him the best coaching candidate. Remember NU has had a good record of hiring a coach with no prior experience. His name was Tom Osborne who Devaney hand picked having only been at the school for a few years because his offensive mind was bordering on genius. Their have been numerous reports by the media and former players raving about BP's same genius on the defensive side of the ball and that he could be the next Bob Stoops/Urban Meyer. Yes I know he could very well flop as well, but I would rather take a chance on someone who has held coordinator positions at big time schools than head coaches at glorified high schools.

So in summary as you can tell with my emphasis on the words "big time" I want a coach who has this experience with the big boys of college football even if he was only a coordinator rather than a coach who have led nobody schools to the point where people almost care about them.

So there's my rant, fire away TG and high school coach lovers
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Thanks for sharing. Truly! I do appreciate your opinion. Here are a couple of things to think about:

*How will Bo do on offense? He may have a brilliant defensive mind but as we learned with Bill Callahan being brilliant on one side or the other does not make an effective head coach.

*How will Bo handle the general public? I'm sorry but I see him as a hot head. The last thing we need is someone who cannot handle his emotions during a game or off the field. We've been embarrassed enough for the past 4 years, we simply don't need that now.

*How will he handle recruits? Some people say this isn't important but it is in this state. The defensive recruits will probably love him but what about the offensive recruits?

*How will he handle the boosters? Unfortunately, they are the 'money'. Again, this is something that has to be taken into consideration.

*How will he handle the media? Whoever is chosen for the position of Head Coach at Nebraska will be under incredible media scrutiny. Can Bo handle this?

Just some things to consider. Thanks again for sharing your opinion.
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Redtildead said:
I like Turner just as much as the next guy but come on husker fans need to realize that 1983 is never coming back. Just because TG wore the helmet does not make him the best coaching candidate.
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So the "he played for Nebraska in '83" argument didn't work...how about the "he was named MAC Coach of the Year" argument?
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Sorry MAC coach of the year award doesn't impress me. I don't believe any MAC school is even close to being ranked are they? I am guessing you are a TG fan, which is great, again I loved TG when he played here he is easily one of the best QB's ever to play at NU, I just can't justify if I were TO hiring a guy who has one a total of 7 games in 2 years, granted it was at Buffalo but come on. Now if he was turning around a program such as Washington State or a similiar program in a BCS conference I would be more impressed that's all.

 
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Redtildead said:
Bo in my mind is the best candidate for the job. He is a motivator, he has big time experience with big time schools. He coached in the NFL alongside, he has been D - Cordinator at big time schools such as NU, OU, LSU. Folks he has the resume to warrant the NU job. All the other candidates are winners at glorified high school programs i.e. Buffalo, Cinci, Navy, and although WF is not a glorified high school program they play in a crap conference and is coached by a 100 year old man who has only landed average to well below average coaching jobs in his 100 years on this earth.

I like Turner just as much as the next guy but come on husker fans need to realize that 1983 is never coming back. Just because TG wore the helmet does not make him the best coaching candidate. Remember NU has had a good record of hiring a coach with no prior experience. His name was Tom Osborne who Devaney hand picked having only been at the school for a few years because his offensive mind was bordering on genius. Their have been numerous reports by the media and former players raving about BP's same genius on the defensive side of the ball and that he could be the next Bob Stoops/Urban Meyer. Yes I know he could very well flop as well, but I would rather take a chance on someone who has held coordinator positions at big time schools than head coaches at glorified high schools.

So in summary as you can tell with my emphasis on the words "big time" I want a coach who has this experience with the big boys of college football even if he was only a coordinator rather than a coach who have led nobody schools to the point where people almost care about them.

So there's my rant, fire away TG and high school coach lovers
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Thanks for sharing. Truly! I do appreciate your opinion. Here are a couple of things to think about:

*How will Bo do on offense? He may have a brilliant defensive mind but as we learned with Bill Callahan being brilliant on one side or the other does not make an effective head coach.

*How will Bo handle the general public? I'm sorry but I see him as a hot head. The last thing we need is someone who cannot handle his emotions during a game or off the field. We've been embarrassed enough for the past 4 years, we simply don't need that now.

*How will he handle recruits? Some people say this isn't important but it is in this state. The defensive recruits will probably love him but what about the offensive recruits?

*How will he handle the boosters? Unfortunately, they are the 'money'. Again, this is something that has to be taken into consideration.

*How will he handle the media? Whoever is chosen for the position of Head Coach at Nebraska will be under incredible media scrutiny. Can Bo handle this?

Just some things to consider. Thanks again for sharing your opinion.
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I agree with what you are saying and yes that is a big part of being the HC at a BCS school, to me I like Bo because of the fact he is more coach than politician who only wants to glad hand the boosters. I think just winning football games will be enough to placate the boosters.

Another thing I don't believe Bob Stoops is a media darling or just loves chatting with boosters, but I think they are pretty happy with him down in Oklahoma.

 
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Sorry MAC coach of the year award doesn't impress me. I don't believe any MAC school is even close to being ranked are they? I am guessing you are a TG fan, which is great, again I loved TG when he played here he is easily one of the best QB's ever to play at NU, I just can't justify if I were TO hiring a guy who has one a total of 7 games in 2 years, granted it was at Buffalo but come on. Now if he was turning around a program such as Washington State or a similiar program in a BCS conference I would be more impressed that's all.
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Well, it's pretty clear you have your mind made up for Bo and against Turner Gill, so that's fine. You're just discounting a pretty major achievment by Gill in the turnaround he's worked at Buffalo, which most coaches will tell you is far, far more difficult to effect at a school with NOTHING to work from, rather than an established program.

It's far easier to build on an already solid foundation than it is to start from scratch. Gill has done that, Pelini never has.

 
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Redtildead said:
I like Turner just as much as the next guy but come on husker fans need to realize that 1983 is never coming back. Just because TG wore the helmet does not make him the best coaching candidate.
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So the "he played for Nebraska in '83" argument didn't work...how about the "he was named MAC Coach of the Year" argument?
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Gary Pinkel was MAC coach of the year at one point too, but I know a lot of people don't think he is a good coach.

 
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