Bo Pelini Dream Team

[The King]

I understand your point. It was important to our season, sure. But it didn't win us anything of significance, did it? When we look back on this season, or when others look back at the history of this season, they'll see conference champions and national champions and most likely look at the BCS bowl games. None of which our name is etched into. Thus, beating MS, PS and NW did not win us anything of significance.

I guarantee you the pressure during the National Championship or Big 10 championship is 10x the pressure they felt going against those teams. Hey, I'd love to be wrong - but I'm not the only person who thinks Taylor's decision making is shaky, at best. (Beck and Bo have spoken about the situation before, I believe. I believe that was the first thing they said they worked on last season, his decision making)

 

[The King]

I have now reminded you three times that I never said it was entirely his fault.

But that's what you imply when you say we'll never win anything of significance with him at QB. If you thought it was more the defenses fault you'd say "we'll never win anything of significance until our defense improves.

I believe we would win a conference championship if our defense improved.

Anything more? Doubtful. Taylor makes too many bad decisions that would get EASILY taken advantage of against other top 5 teams. Easy. Unless he stops trying to put everything onto his own shoulders.

And I can't stress it enough - love the guy as a player and as a person, and is the right QB for our team as we don't have anything better as of now. But I don't see him as a QB that can put us over the top due to his poor decision making, penchant to lose trust in his mechanics as the pressure builds around him.

I will say that Taylor showed me a lot vs Georgia when he was actually standing up for himself.

 

[Landlord]

Big game was defined as anything of significance. I.E. a bcs bowl game, a conference championship, a national championship.

Those are "of significance"

Or do you think those wins actually mean anything at the end of the season? I hope not.

Yes, those wins mean something at the end of the season.

Without those wins, you don't play for a conference championship, a bcs bowl or a national championship.

By your definition, Taylor has played in two big games. The first he was a freshman, and gunning through a severe injury, and the second....well, we know what happened.

Two entries are not enough sample points to make a definitive statement.

 

[Mavric]

I have been on record saying we won't win anything of significance with Taylor at the helm.

Big game was defined as anything of significance. I.E. a bcs bowl game, a conference championship, a national championship.

I believe we would win a conference championship if our defense improved.

:dunno

 

[The King]

Big game was defined as anything of significance. I.E. a bcs bowl game, a conference championship, a national championship.

Those are "of significance"

Or do you think those wins actually mean anything at the end of the season? I hope not.

Yes, those wins mean something at the end of the season.

Without those wins, you don't play for a conference championship, a bcs bowl or a national championship.

By your definition, Taylor has played in two big games. The first he was a freshman, and gunning through a severe injury, and the second....well, we know what happened.

Two entries are not enough sample points to make a definitive statement.

I have no facts here, but I would say 2 entries out of 3 years is more than most QBs have. So, yes I think it is more than ample evidence.

Teddy Bridgewater played with a broken wrist and severely sprained ankle but beat one of the better defenses last year, in Florida - posting better numbers than an injured Martinez did against Texas - or a healthy Martinez vs Wisconsin (lets not forgot, how bad his QB rating was that game. I believe it was his second or third worst game of the season).

And correct, I realize without regular season wins you don't play for the big ones, but they have no true meaning attached to them. If we beat or lose to NW, there is always next week. There are no awards. No trophies. Nothing. It just doesn't have the same SIGNIFICANCE that a game with a physical reward has, which means it doesn't have the same pressure.

If you think playing Alabama for the national championship, or Ohio State for the B1G championship, is the same as a regular season game against Northwestern or MIchigan State, and comes with the same amount of pressure - I guarantee that you are incorrect in that assessment.

 

[The King]

I have been on record saying we won't win anything of significance with Taylor at the helm.

Big game was defined as anything of significance. I.E. a bcs bowl game, a conference championship, a national championship.

I believe we would win a conference championship if our defense improved.

:dunno

Not a BCS game OR a national championship. That's still pretty far back from being "relevant" in my opinion.

And, our defense would have to be VERY, VERY good for us to win.

If you want, I can adjust the statement and say that "we won't win anything of post season significance, with Taylor as our QB, no matter how good our defense is next year. (Barring that they aren't some all time great defense)

 

[knapplc]

And, our defense would have to be VERY, VERY good for us to win.

We scored 30 or more points in each loss. Keeping an opponent below 30 points doesn't make you a "VERY, VERY good" defense. It puts you about 76th in the nation, tied with UTEP. We keep those four opponents to 29 or fewer points and we win those games.

You're going on and on about Martinez. Daimion Stafford had more to do with those losses last year than Martinez. Replace Stafford with a competent tackler and we win two of those games, if not all four.

 

[Landlord]

Big game was defined as anything of significance. I.E. a bcs bowl game, a conference championship, a national championship.

Those are "of significance"

Or do you think those wins actually mean anything at the end of the season? I hope not.

Yes, those wins mean something at the end of the season.

Without those wins, you don't play for a conference championship, a bcs bowl or a national championship.

By your definition, Taylor has played in two big games. The first he was a freshman, and gunning through a severe injury, and the second....well, we know what happened.

Two entries are not enough sample points to make a definitive statement.

I have no facts here, but I would say 2 entries out of 3 years is more than most QBs have. So, yes I think it is more than ample evidence.

Teddy Bridgewater played with a broken wrist and severely sprained ankle but beat one of the better defenses last year, in Florida - posting better numbers than an injured Martinez did against Texas - or a healthy Martinez vs Wisconsin (lets not forgot, how bad his QB rating was that game. I believe it was his second or third worst game of the season).

And correct, I realize without regular season wins you don't play for the big ones, but they have no true meaning attached to them. If we beat or lose to NW, there is always next week. There are no awards. No trophies. Nothing. It just doesn't have the same SIGNIFICANCE that a game with a physical reward has, which means it doesn't have the same pressure.

If you think playing Alabama for the national championship, or Ohio State for the B1G championship, is the same as a regular season game against Northwestern or MIchigan State, and comes with the same amount of pressure - I guarantee that you are incorrect in that assessment.

First bold - the Game of the Century had no real meaning attached to it. Got it.

Second bold - Firstly, I didn't mention either of those games. Secondly, I don't think they are the same. But that's different than not thinking they are big.

 

[Mavric]

Where did I say the defense wasn't at fault also? Your reading comprehension seems to need a little help.

And, I still didn't say it was all Taylor's fault. The <team> will have to get us to wherever we are going, but in the end - if it boils down to a close game against the best of the best, I don't like Taylors decision making skills in a close contest.

I have now reminded you three times that I never said it was entirely his fault.

If you want, I can adjust the statement and say that "we won't win anything of post season significance, with Taylor as our QB, no matter how good our defense is next year. (Barring that they aren't some all time great defense)

:dunno

 

[Saunders]

I have now reminded you three times that I never said it was entirely his fault.

But that's what you imply when you say we'll never win anything of significance with him at QB. If you thought it was more the defenses fault you'd say "we'll never win anything of significance until our defense improves.

I believe we would win a conference championship if our defense improved.

Anything more? Doubtful. Taylor makes too many bad decisions that would get EASILY taken advantage of against other top 5 teams. Easy. Unless he stops trying to put everything onto his own shoulders.

Ever stop to think that happens because he knows we have to score 30-40 points to win a game?

 

[The King]

I have now reminded you three times that I never said it was entirely his fault.

But that's what you imply when you say we'll never win anything of significance with him at QB. If you thought it was more the defenses fault you'd say "we'll never win anything of significance until our defense improves.

I believe we would win a conference championship if our defense improved.

Anything more? Doubtful. Taylor makes too many bad decisions that would get EASILY taken advantage of against other top 5 teams. Easy. Unless he stops trying to put everything onto his own shoulders.

Ever stop to think that happens because he knows we have to score 30-40 points to win a game?

why would that be the first thing coaches work with him on during the off season if it doesn't cost us? You guys need to get off of his jock. It is ok to criticize good QBs. same reason I think mike Vick will never win a super bowl or Tony Romo.

 

[Mierin]

I think mike Vick will never win a super bowl or Tony Romo.

Is Mike Vick trying to win Tony Romo? If so... he could definitely do better.

 

[The King]

I will put it this way. In this offense that is very QB dependent, we need a QB that isn't turnover prone for how often they have the ball.

That is why I say Chip wouldn't of started Taylor. Chip wanted a game manager who wouldn't turn the ball over because the QB plays such a strong role in the offense.

 

[suh_fan93]

I will put it this way. In this offense that is very QB dependent, we need a QB that isn't turnover prone for how often they have the ball.

That is why I say Chip wouldn't of started Taylor. Chip wanted a game manager who wouldn't turn the ball over because the QB plays such a strong role in the offense.

There's a lot of schools that wouldn't start Taylor even if he weren't the turnover machine that he is. Pelini has more than catered this offense around him turnovers and all like most coaches most certainly wouldn't. In 38 career games he's fumbled the ball....47 times. He's still and always will be a running back with horrible ball handling skills taboot attempting to play QB. Nothing like 4 years of it...

 

[HuskerShark]

The hate continues to baffle me...