Bo Should go.

[AFhusker]

This is how we got in this position in the first place. With people that called for Solich to be fired! Heck I can remember when Osborne was getting run out of town but luckily he wasn't. This will be a long road to get back to being dominant again. I think Pelini is a great Defensive mind but not necessarily a head coach, Yet. He will get there but it will be a while. I do feel your frustration and do not think you are a bad fan because you expect excellence. I also get miffed when the team I love plays like a bunch of girl scouts but they will get better.

Frank deserved to be fired. But he should have been given one more year to complete his failure. That 2004 team was pathetic. Then everyone would have been behind his firing and then hopefully we could have had a better organized coaching search to replace him.

Does everyone here actually believe that Solich was fired solely because of the team's performance? He was fired because of off the field 'activities.' Pedey had no choice but to fire him. Hence the disorganized coaching search, etc. Solich left some good talent behind on defense and I would argue that other than Dennard and David, the defensive players that Callahan inherited were much more talented than what we have today, particularly on the defensive line. Our defensive line talent is currently embarrassing. I had to laugh today when the uninformed announcer called Meredith the next "superstar" on the defensive line.

Back to topic, I tend to agree that Bo is not going to be the guy to take us to consistent contenders for BCS bowl games. What bothers me is the team's lack of discipline. Penalties, missed assignments, dropped balls, lack of intensity, poor tackling... You name it. It's becoming the calling card of Pelini's teams. Playing great one week then completely laying an egg the next. It just seems to me that in about 4 or 5 games per year our team comes out completely flat. The coaching today also stunk. The clock management stunk. The 2 gap scheme we run blows and we don't have the personnel to make it work. Sure they looked great against Michigan State last week, but lets face it, Sparty had a hard time running the ball on Minnesota today. Conversely, look at how disruptive Northwestern's Dline was today. How many negative plays did we have? They were running similar plays with their mobile QB and they worked great against our soft D. I'm willing to give Pelini 1 or 2 more years, but this sh#t is seriously getting old. I used to look forward to our offense getting off the field so I could watch the Blackshirts knock the piss out of the opposing team. Now I just have to hope that the other team will make a mistake to kill their drive.

Unfortunately as others have stated we wouldn't be able to get a proven big name coach in here even if we did get rid of Bo. Maybe Bill Snyder would come up here? (just kidding)

I'm glad you subscribe to the National Inquirer. Now, how about one shred of real "proof" before going back to your "As the World Turns" soap opera?

I work with a friend of Pedey's who grew up a childhood friend with Steve and who remains in touch with him today. Pedey told him everything that was going on with Franky and his problem with getting a couple women pregnant(one of which was a student). How am I supposed to prove that? You don't find it just a little fishy that Solich going from a .500 season to 9-3 the next year got him fired? Don't you think you're a little over-the-top with all your responses on this board? Most of your posts do nothing but mock other peoples opinions. I bow down to you for being the smartest and most informed fan on this board.

But it's perfectly fine to assassinate the character of a previous HC of ours on a public forum with zero proof?

I do sincerely apologize for my sarcasm. Maybe we both could use a little better judgement?

Apperently it is, or is it ok to be hypricitical and only critisize one coach and everyone else gets a free pass? This is the stuff that drives me crazy is the hyprocicy of the NU fan base. All you have to do is look at all of the anti BC posts who didn't have all of these off the field issues. He lost games and got fired, but apperently it's hands off to critisize the guy who truley put the progam in the shitter in Frank. If you want valadation, go look up the truth as to why Haloti Ngata as to why he changed his commitment from NU to Oregon. Or better yet ask his cousin (I forget his name, but he was a DL for NU at the time) how Frank handled Bohl and thier situaion and you will find the truth.

Never said that. Just said his firing wasn't soley based off the programs success. The K-State game made it an easy decision for Pedey. Also just wanted to point out that defensively Solich left a lot more talent then we currently have.

No he didn't. Go look at the roster, NU only had three DL on the team and one QB in Joe Daily. Our offenseive weapons were Daily, Ross (a glorified 3rd down back) and Matt Herrian at TE. Who else was there? We had some good LB and Secondary talent, but as you can see now it doesn't matter how good those guys are if the DL can't get any pressure. 2003 was also an aberation in that the scheudle was really easy and Bo's defense carried the team by having (at the time and I don't know if it's still a record or not) a NCAA record of 49 turnovers and statically the offense was worse in 2003 than it was in 2002. By the way our three losses that year were to mobile QB's, Ell Roberson (KSU) Vince Young (UT) and Brad Smith (Mizzou). That is the reason why BC had to go to the JC route to replace talent that wasn't there.

Where as BC left Bo guys like Suh and Crick. The secondary is where BC left the cubbard bare and I can see why no CB's wanted to play for Coz. But there was talent, who's players do you think that Bo has been winning with the last three years? I still think if we could have kept Bo and had BC's offense we would have at least 2 MNC's right now. They would have covered for each other's weaknesses perfectly. But tha tis on SP for screwing any chance of that up.

With that being said, we need to learn from the past and this is the year in which the recruiting class was killed by the fireing of BC. Just like 2004 was the year when recruiting was killed by the firing of Frank and when you have lean classes like that, it's going to affect the team when they are supposed to be seniors. What the coaches have to do is recruit thier tails off and try to fill in the holes even if that means JUCO's. And why a coach needs at least 6 years to prove themselves and have the abilty to change assistant coaches if that is needed.

 

[AFhusker]

Glad you "Bo's gotta go" are'nt the Athletic director! Who do you want ! Urban Meyer said no once, he would probably say NO again. Bo will be fine.

I think he deserves 2 more years, but I would like to know what your assumption that "Bo will be fine" is based on? And I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ or anything like that. I would legitimately like to know what you have seen so far that makes you think this.

 

[Hooked on Huskers]

just wait until November 13. If Huskers will win against PSU, then "Bo Should go" threads will completely vanished.

However if Huskers will lose, then I guaranteed BBS servers suffered an overload status due to a millions of "Bo Should go" threads

 

[krc1995]

Glad you "Bo's gotta go" are'nt the Athletic director! Who do you want ! Urban Meyer said no once, he would probably say NO again. Bo will be fine.

I think he deserves 2 more years, but I would like to know what your assumption that "Bo will be fine" is based on? And I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ or anything like that. I would legitimately like to know what you have seen so far that makes you think this.

Yea, I'm not gonna follow him off a cliff or anything, but I truly am satisfied with 9-3, 8-4 seasons for a few years and I'm really hoping we get there this year. Does today hurt? Yes, but that is a part of the game.

But, in the next few years I better see some better recruits coming in. We just have the athletes

 

[It'sNotAFakeID]

Are the Huskers back yet?

According to Bo we were back and not going anywhere after we beat Arizona in the Holiday Bowl.

Perhaps maybe you should look at the context of that statement.

2004: 5-6

2005: 8-4

2006: 9-5

2007: 5-7

2008: 9-4

2009: 10-4

2010: 10-4

That is consistency. We have consistently been a 10 win team for the past couple of years. The whole "we're back and here to stay" statement didn't mean we're going to win a national championship in the next year or two, all it meant was that we aren't going to fall into irrelevancy anymore like we did with the guy who came before Bo.

The team will probably end up winning 10 games again this year. Which isn't bad, considering the coaching changes and the personnel loss. Yeah, we're teetering on the edge of being a great football team and it just hasn't happened the past couple of years. It takes a tremendous amount of effort to win all your games, and even then that effort might not be enough [see Alabama and Kansas State last night].

The time will come where Nebraska, when it needs to win that extra came, will come out on top. It will happen, we are building towards it. Throwing Bo away would do nothing good and would inevitably set us back 3 years.

 

[beanman]

This is how we got in this position in the first place. With people that called for Solich to be fired! Heck I can remember when Osborne was getting run out of town but luckily he wasn't. This will be a long road to get back to being dominant again. I think Pelini is a great Defensive mind but not necessarily a head coach, Yet. He will get there but it will be a while. I do feel your frustration and do not think you are a bad fan because you expect excellence. I also get miffed when the team I love plays like a bunch of girl scouts but they will get better.

Frank deserved to be fired. But he should have been given one more year to complete his failure. That 2004 team was pathetic. Then everyone would have been behind his firing and then hopefully we could have had a better organized coaching search to replace him.

Does everyone here actually believe that Solich was fired solely because of the team's performance? He was fired because of off the field 'activities.' Pedey had no choice but to fire him. Hence the disorganized coaching search, etc. Solich left some good talent behind on defense and I would argue that other than Dennard and David, the defensive players that Callahan inherited were much more talented than what we have today, particularly on the defensive line. Our defensive line talent is currently embarrassing. I had to laugh today when the uninformed announcer called Meredith the next "superstar" on the defensive line.

Back to topic, I tend to agree that Bo is not going to be the guy to take us to consistent contenders for BCS bowl games. What bothers me is the team's lack of discipline. Penalties, missed assignments, dropped balls, lack of intensity, poor tackling... You name it. It's becoming the calling card of Pelini's teams. Playing great one week then completely laying an egg the next. It just seems to me that in about 4 or 5 games per year our team comes out completely flat. The coaching today also stunk. The clock management stunk. The 2 gap scheme we run blows and we don't have the personnel to make it work. Sure they looked great against Michigan State last week, but lets face it, Sparty had a hard time running the ball on Minnesota today. Conversely, look at how disruptive Northwestern's Dline was today. How many negative plays did we have? They were running similar plays with their mobile QB and they worked great against our soft D. I'm willing to give Pelini 1 or 2 more years, but this sh#t is seriously getting old. I used to look forward to our offense getting off the field so I could watch the Blackshirts knock the piss out of the opposing team. Now I just have to hope that the other team will make a mistake to kill their drive.

Unfortunately as others have stated we wouldn't be able to get a proven big name coach in here even if we did get rid of Bo. Maybe Bill Snyder would come up here? (just kidding)

I'm glad you subscribe to the National Inquirer. Now, how about one shred of real "proof" before going back to your "As the World Turns" soap opera?

I work with a friend of Pedey's who grew up a childhood friend with Steve and who remains in touch with him today. Pedey told him everything that was going on with Franky and his problem with getting a couple women pregnant(one of which was a student). How am I supposed to prove that? You don't find it just a little fishy that Solich going from a .500 season to 9-3 the next year got him fired? Don't you think you're a little over-the-top with all your responses on this board? Most of your posts do nothing but mock other peoples opinions. I bow down to you for being the smartest and most informed fan on this board.

But it's perfectly fine to assassinate the character of a previous HC of ours on a public forum with zero proof?

I do sincerely apologize for my sarcasm. Maybe we both could use a little better judgement?

Apperently it is, or is it ok to be hypricitical and only critisize one coach and everyone else gets a free pass? This is the stuff that drives me crazy is the hyprocicy of the NU fan base. All you have to do is look at all of the anti BC posts who didn't have all of these off the field issues. He lost games and got fired, but apperently it's hands off to critisize the guy who truley put the progam in the shitter in Frank. If you want valadation, go look up the truth as to why Haloti Ngata as to why he changed his commitment from NU to Oregon. Or better yet ask his cousin (I forget his name, but he was a DL for NU at the time) how Frank handled Bohl and thier situaion and you will find the truth.

Never said that. Just said his firing wasn't soley based off the programs success. The K-State game made it an easy decision for Pedey. Also just wanted to point out that defensively Solich left a lot more talent then we currently have.

No he didn't. Go look at the roster, NU only had three DL on the team and one QB in Joe Daily. Our offenseive weapons were Daily, Ross (a glorified 3rd down back) and Matt Herrian at TE. Who else was there? We had some good LB and Secondary talent, but as you can see now it doesn't matter how good those guys are if the DL can't get any pressure. 2003 was also an aberation in that the scheudle was really easy and Bo's defense carried the team by having (at the time and I don't know if it's still a record or not) a NCAA record of 49 turnovers and statically the offense was worse in 2003 than it was in 2002. By the way our three losses that year were to mobile QB's, Ell Roberson (KSU) Vince Young (UT) and Brad Smith (Mizzou). That is the reason why BC had to go to the JC route to replace talent that wasn't there.

Where as BC left Bo guys like Suh and Crick. The secondary is where BC left the cubbard bare and I can see why no CB's wanted to play for Coz. But there was talent, who's players do you think that Bo has been winning with the last three years? I still think if we could have kept Bo and had BC's offense we would have at least 2 MNC's right now. They would have covered for each other's weaknesses perfectly. But tha tis on SP for screwing any chance of that up.

With that being said, we need to learn from the past and this is the year in which the recruiting class was killed by the fireing of BC. Just like 2004 was the year when recruiting was killed by the firing of Frank and when you have lean classes like that, it's going to affect the team when they are supposed to be seniors. What the coaches have to do is recruit thier tails off and try to fill in the holes even if that means JUCO's. And why a coach needs at least 6 years to prove themselves and have the abilty to change assistant coaches if that is needed.

Titus Adams, Josh and Dan Bullocks, Adam Carricker, Jay Moore, Barret Ruud, LeKevin Smith, Fabian Washington. These are good players. I'd take Adams and LeKevin Smith over what we have now on our defensive line. That was my point. Offensively, you are are right. Other than Fluellen, Incognito and a couple others we didn't have a whole lot of talent on the roster left over from Solich. And for the record I'm not one of those saying Bo should be fired. He should get a couple years yet and see what happens. If he stays where he is now, it's kind of hard to fire the guy. But I have a problem with us being like Iowa every year.

 

[krc1995]

Glad you "Bo's gotta go" are'nt the Athletic director! Who do you want ! Urban Meyer said no once, he would probably say NO again. Bo will be fine.

I think he deserves 2 more years, but I would like to know what your assumption that "Bo will be fine" is based on? And I'm not trying to be a smart a$$ or anything like that. I would legitimately like to know what you have seen so far that makes you think this.

Yea, I'm not gonna follow him off a cliff or anything, but I truly am satisfied with 9-3, 8-4 seasons for a few years and I'm really hoping we get there this year. Does today hurt? Yes, but that is a part of the game.

But, in the next few years I better see some better recruits coming in. We just have the athletes

I meant we don't have the athletes, or if we do they are not seemingly seeing the field.

I do hope that Bo is looking in the mirror this am and asking "What should be done differently?" This was the proverbial trap game, which falls soley on the coaches. Given Bo's emotional nature, I think he and the team get too high after good wins, and then can't comeback the next week and put together a solid game. Someone brought up his petty nature and playing his favorites. I don't know Bo, but because he is so emotional I could see that happening. And remember in 92' a pretty special team came out of a loss to Iowa State

 

[T_O_Bull]

Just suck it up Mr Band Wagon.

T_O_B

G>B>R

 

[mwj98]

I am glad the op isn't the AD....to make knee jerk reactions and start over is ridiculous. Osborne was just about pushed out. We remember the Championship runs....that comes every now and then. We are a good team. We need depth in this league and a better push on the defensive front and that's it. I really think someone needs to work with Martinez on his motion. He did throw the ball well yesterday. But deep throws are an issue.

To say "Bo's gotta Go" is stupid. Really????

 

[Chaddyboxer]

We have a good coach , the players have to win it ..

I think the fault is on the team as a whole....i hate pointing fingers...but I am going to do it out of frustration...1.) the defense played horrid 2.) run blocking was pathetic.

I would hate to be the o-line this week.....

 

[Chaddyboxer]

Plenty of season left....with how inconsistent the team is....we could realistically win out or we could drop all 3....one game at a time folks. The season isn't over....

 

[Enhance]

We have a good coach , the players have to win it ..

I think the fault is on the team as a whole....i hate pointing fingers...but I am going to do it out of frustration...1.) the defense played horrid 2.) run blocking was pathetic.

I would hate to be the o-line this week.....

I just mentioned this in another thread but I think it applies to your post, too. We all know the coaches can create a top defensive unit - they did it two years in a row. But in one of the earlier games, it was either caught on t.v. (or rumored) that Carl Pelini was on the sidelines saying "I don't know what to say anymore" after his defenders were continuing to give up yards and points during a game.

At some point, it becomes the player's responsibility to take what they're learning and put it out on the field. We're young on the defense. If the players aren't able to put things together on the field over a period of time, then you start looking at the coaches. However, these coaches have proven they can right things and create great defenses, so at this point I'm nowhere close to wanting to blame the coaches entirely. I think everybody is deserving of some blame right now.

 

[huskered17]

It is the same today as it was in the T O days. Every couple of years the defense would have to carry the games till the offense caught up, and the offense did the same. Comparing the d's or the o's to SEC teams, is not realistic. We have no where the recruiting hot bed they do. Look at Texas last year and this year, with all that talent to chose from. Some players never live up to their hype. I know we have a 5* and had a 4* on the d-line and we still are having and had trouble stopping the run. We have players taught to play their positions on D, that still get out of position, offensive players that still miss their blocks and drop balls. The coaches can only coach so much, than its up to the players, to perform.

Bo has burnt a lot of red-shirts since he got here, maybe just maybe he sees what we don't. The talent was thin, and needed to be restocked, with 4 or 5 yrs of hitting a home run on maybe a hand full, if lucky, in each class. We didn't lose this game on Bo's coaching alone, as some seem to think. Turnovers at crucial times cost us 10-14 pts. Thats part of the game you can't coach for, at that moment.

I think Bo is the answer, "and given the time T O had", will prove himself. This is still a very good team. Not to good that it can't be upset, but good enough to beat top ten ranked opponents, from time to time. We are getting closer people, give it time. The respect is back, winning seasons are back, and bigger things are around the corner.

GBR!!!

 

[krc1995]

Plenty of season left....with how inconsistent the team is....we could realistically win out or we could drop all 3....one game at a time folks. The season isn't over....

+1

 

[Chaddyboxer]

While I do not agree with firing Pelini. Pelini had his team flat today and needs a kick in the pants. He needs to learn from his mistakes and do a much better job. Period. If I dont make my sales quota I may not get fired but I can tell you that I will have to answer questions as to why I was not a success for the month. Bo and his staff need to kick things in gear like recruiting, demanding discipline, getting his guys in the friggin weight room, etc..

Why are you so surprised? Remember the tu game last year? How about F...L...A....T?

Bo is NOT a big time HC or a DC. His schemes SUCK against teams that have a true running game. He proved this at LSU and OU too. The big diff. there was that he had talent to cover up the warts.

Tell me - WHY the F_C_(#&K are we the only team that needs 5-6 db's to stop a passing attack? That's IDIOTIC and NW proved why every one else does not run that STUPID peso.

The problem with Bo is that he's too NFL like - stop the pass worry about the run later. The complete opposite of what common sense dictates.

Well...big issue here with NEB is what you stated.....we NEED MORE TALENT. You obviously watched the Alabama vs. LSU game last night.....TALENT EVERYWHERE on those teams....MONSTERS with SPEEEED! Neb will need to keep winning to attract talent like that...that's how you win the big ones...with playmakers and talent. Can Bo coach up players? Hell yeah he can...but we need more overall talent across the board at multiple positions...There's plenty of season left...let's see how it pans out.