southernoregonhusker
Starter
I look at those last four games and think we would have been on a four game losing streak if not for a Pierson-El punt return for 6. Too bad he's not the same player.
bo's last season
- Thread starter huskerfan69
- Start date
knapplc
International Man of Mystery
Stockholm Syndrome?
I agree. It's crazy. The Big Ten feels more like home than anything since the late 1980s when both Nebraska & Oklahoma were good.
4skers89
All-Conference
VectorVictor
Heisman Trophy Winner
Because some people have problems letting go of the past, embracing change, and recognizing when people that you consider trustworthy are stabbing you in the back repeatedly.
And yes, this works for an explanation for multiple forums on this board.
Landlord
Banned
2007 was the first year of the BTN, so it's not like that was an established thing at the time. I guess we just didn't know any better - PPV and 1-2 games a season on radio were pretty common in our context back then. 2007 was the last year that we had a game not be televised, though.
JJ Husker
Assistant Coach
During the Callahan years having a game not be televised was pretty much a blessing in disguise anyway.
TGHusker
Heisman Trophy Winner
I wished it had occurred playing my old school SDSU. YSU unfortunately beat SDSU the week before 19-7.
melscott62
All-Conference
That's where we are headed. I am worried things will be unwatchable starting this week. I worry about our ability to keep it even somewhat close.
4skers89
All-Conference
JJ Husker
Assistant Coach
melscott62
All-Conference
4skers89
All-Conference
Last edited by a moderator:
Guy Chamberlin
Heisman Trophy Winner
Bo's 2014 season felt a lot like Riley's 2016 season: a solid start that made you think the team had turned its fortunes around, followed by a slow, familiar fade (with a gut punch blowout) that made you realize the program wasn't close to competing at the elite level.
84HuskerLaw
All-Conference
I would hope that our next coach, whomever he may be, doesn't bother to do much research and read a bunch of the stuff on this board. No right minded coach would want to come to Nebraska to be our new head coach when we haven't even fired this one and comments on here suggest that if the next coach is not winning the Big Ten west by year two, he'll be on the hot seat too. Come on people! It is absolutely not fair to any coach to expect miracles over night. If things are not that bad, then we sure should not be firing a well respected coach whose only been here for 2 and a half seasons.
Seriously, evaluate our talent level currently and over the past five reasonably. How many players from the past 5 years' teams are actually actively playing in NFL games now? How many of our starters from the Wisconsin game could start for Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State or even Michigan State (presumably the five best programs in the Big Ten besides NU?
How many seniors on this year's squad will be drafted or even actually sign as free agents and hold a position on the NFL roster in year two?
How many members of the past five Husker teams made first team all conference? How many made second team all conference?
The juniors and seniors and even red shirt sophomores were mostly recruited by the previous staff/Pelini, correct?
Most of the top 35 ranked college teams are going to be starting primarily 3rd, 4th and 5th year players. I believe this is a true statement.
NU is NOT going to compete at a high level with players that are not even going to make the third string at Ohio State. Recruiting must improve from where its been. I believe the Huskers played Saturday night vs Wisconsin at about a number 35 or 40 level, assuming Wisconsin is fairly considered around a top 10 to 15 level. I think that is fair.
It is atleast arguable that Nebraska's current talent level is perhaps as low as number 45 - 50, especially in certain areas of the team such as offensive line, tight end and linebacker. We may not be much above number 35 in defensive line, RB and QB and perhaps even with WRs hurt or AWOL, redshirting, etc around that as well.
Our punter is doing much better than last year certainly and Brown is a top ten kicker in my view. Not sure where I'd place our secondary and the rest of the team. We don't have any player that is playing like an All American nor anywhere near playing like a lombardi, butkus, rimmington, or any of the other major award winning levels.
Now, one can argue that our coaches have not 'coached em up' enough but you can't make DPE run 4.3 in the forty or 10.2 in the hundred. He's not that fast. None of our WRs have demonstrated an ability to get deep on even the corners they've faced this year so far. For many on this board, Tre Bryant is our 'best' RB and we won a heated recruiting battle for him with Kansas State, not anybody in the top ten.
It's not for lack of trying in my view. How many scholarships have we offered so far in this recruiting class? Hundreds? We are courting, offering and blanketing the country to find the best we can possibly get but the number of 5 star guys seriously considering NU are dam few. We've had a surprising number of visits by some highly rated 4 star guys. This pattern is nothing new and Bo Pelini, even with Tom Osborne greeting his recruits on arrival as the Athletic Director, had less than 5 star results.
I say all this, not to excuse Riley and his recruiting success/lack thereof, but to remind all that we have a long ways to go to get back to where we were 20 years ago when Scott Frost was a senior. Recruiting is critical. NU is not the same program as it was when Frank Solich took over and it was not the same when Callahan took over. It surely wasn't the same when Bo took over and it is not the same today. Turning this around will NOT happen in one or two seasons.
If we should hire Scott Frost or any other coach (I want the most highly regarded, middle aged, top notch, smooth talking, parent impressing, recruiter in the country), he needs to arm himself with good recruiting staff that are exellent coaches that can lead and inspire excellence. The next Husker coach has a tremendous challenge but the rewards will be astronomical if he succeeds. The sky is the limit and he will become a legend, on a par with Osborne (or even better). So - if the guy is as good as his ego and self confidence level can be to take the job, he will rise to the pinnacle of his profession. He can name is price when the contract is renewed after 5 or 6 years.
Seriously, evaluate our talent level currently and over the past five reasonably. How many players from the past 5 years' teams are actually actively playing in NFL games now? How many of our starters from the Wisconsin game could start for Ohio State, Wisconsin, Michigan, Penn State or even Michigan State (presumably the five best programs in the Big Ten besides NU?
How many seniors on this year's squad will be drafted or even actually sign as free agents and hold a position on the NFL roster in year two?
How many members of the past five Husker teams made first team all conference? How many made second team all conference?
The juniors and seniors and even red shirt sophomores were mostly recruited by the previous staff/Pelini, correct?
Most of the top 35 ranked college teams are going to be starting primarily 3rd, 4th and 5th year players. I believe this is a true statement.
NU is NOT going to compete at a high level with players that are not even going to make the third string at Ohio State. Recruiting must improve from where its been. I believe the Huskers played Saturday night vs Wisconsin at about a number 35 or 40 level, assuming Wisconsin is fairly considered around a top 10 to 15 level. I think that is fair.
It is atleast arguable that Nebraska's current talent level is perhaps as low as number 45 - 50, especially in certain areas of the team such as offensive line, tight end and linebacker. We may not be much above number 35 in defensive line, RB and QB and perhaps even with WRs hurt or AWOL, redshirting, etc around that as well.
Our punter is doing much better than last year certainly and Brown is a top ten kicker in my view. Not sure where I'd place our secondary and the rest of the team. We don't have any player that is playing like an All American nor anywhere near playing like a lombardi, butkus, rimmington, or any of the other major award winning levels.
Now, one can argue that our coaches have not 'coached em up' enough but you can't make DPE run 4.3 in the forty or 10.2 in the hundred. He's not that fast. None of our WRs have demonstrated an ability to get deep on even the corners they've faced this year so far. For many on this board, Tre Bryant is our 'best' RB and we won a heated recruiting battle for him with Kansas State, not anybody in the top ten.
It's not for lack of trying in my view. How many scholarships have we offered so far in this recruiting class? Hundreds? We are courting, offering and blanketing the country to find the best we can possibly get but the number of 5 star guys seriously considering NU are dam few. We've had a surprising number of visits by some highly rated 4 star guys. This pattern is nothing new and Bo Pelini, even with Tom Osborne greeting his recruits on arrival as the Athletic Director, had less than 5 star results.
I say all this, not to excuse Riley and his recruiting success/lack thereof, but to remind all that we have a long ways to go to get back to where we were 20 years ago when Scott Frost was a senior. Recruiting is critical. NU is not the same program as it was when Frank Solich took over and it was not the same when Callahan took over. It surely wasn't the same when Bo took over and it is not the same today. Turning this around will NOT happen in one or two seasons.
If we should hire Scott Frost or any other coach (I want the most highly regarded, middle aged, top notch, smooth talking, parent impressing, recruiter in the country), he needs to arm himself with good recruiting staff that are exellent coaches that can lead and inspire excellence. The next Husker coach has a tremendous challenge but the rewards will be astronomical if he succeeds. The sky is the limit and he will become a legend, on a par with Osborne (or even better). So - if the guy is as good as his ego and self confidence level can be to take the job, he will rise to the pinnacle of his profession. He can name is price when the contract is renewed after 5 or 6 years.
krc1995
Heisman Trophy Winner
The minor reason I want Frost hired is to shut up the fan base when he loses a game. Any game.
The minor reason I want Frost hired is to shut up the fan base when he loses a game. Any game.