Both polls now out

I think the top 5 should be ranked in the order to which they have a legitimate chance at playing in the NC game. TCU, BSU don't have a shot if 2 out of any of the current top 8 go unbeaten.

When it gets into the one loss teams getting in, then I think they can argue. No way they get in before us.
While I tend to agree, eventually everyone is going to have to let BSU and/or TCU "put up or shut up". They've been good for way to long (yes I know...weak conference but...) to not have an opportunity to prove it

 
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