Buffalo: What Did We Learn?
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Guy Chamberlin
Heisman Trophy Winner
Nebraska running backs only have 6 receptions in three games.
Of course I like getting the WRs in the mix, but those are really low numbers for any offense these days.
If you want one of these RBs to break out, get them a ball on the flat or past the line of scrimmage and see how they operate. While I never loved the bubble screens and flares, they are designed to open vertical running and passing lanes as the game goes on.
Of course I like getting the WRs in the mix, but those are really low numbers for any offense these days.
If you want one of these RBs to break out, get them a ball on the flat or past the line of scrimmage and see how they operate. While I never loved the bubble screens and flares, they are designed to open vertical running and passing lanes as the game goes on.
Nebfanatic
All-American
Im actually excited to see how our defense performs when matched up with a good offense. I think they are more up for the challenge than you are giving them credit for. Don't think our offense will do enough though
Toe
All-American
Yep, Buffalo now has the stats to show that they couldn't score as many points against us as a mid-tier FCS team. I bet they'll be playing in a New Year's Six Bowl this year!
Seriously, are you people so desperate to find something positive that you have to hype up a win against Buffalo? I'm not nearly as doom and gloom about this season as some here are, but this is ridiculous.
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I agree - it's that kind of timid, lack of confidence element that's tough to define but seems evident. I don't think that, to a man, Nebraska's o-line has been in any way outmatched in the first three games... at least in terms of strength and size. So getting beat as often as they do (particularly on the inside) has to come down to some combination of confidence, attitude and technique/job.
And yeah, it does seem like they run a lot between the tackles and don't get as many yards out of it as they'd like. And it does seem like they've been less interested in doing perimeter passes or screen plays this season to try and help open up the run game, something that I felt like Frost tried to do quite a bit in his early years. At this point, I can only assume that it's a) intentional or b) they have been doing them and I'm just blind (which is very possible).
I feel like their short perimeter passing game hasn't been particularly good under Frost, though, particularly to Adrian's right. I think I saw some stat the other day that short range passes to Martinez' right are by far and away the weakest element of his passing game.
seaofred92
All-American
I never said they’ll be in a NY6 bowl game. I said they had the stats to show they’ve been a good team. It’s been supported by numerous advanced analytic measures and they’ve had multiple players drafted into the NFL.
The fact that they didn’t play a P5 team last year doesn’t discredit that they had a talented football team. “P5” is a legislative term- not a competitive one. You’re saying you’d be more impressed by them if they beat Kansas or Duke or Syracuse or Baylor or Oregon State or someone like that? Why does that matter in the slightest? When you get to teams ~30-90 in CFB anyone can be beat on pretty much any given weekend. Which is why we constantly see results like Pitt winning over Clemson or Navy beating a top 6 Houston team or Florida State almost beating Notre Dame and then losing to Jacksonville State.
Buffalo is a good team and Nebraska should be extremely happy with our performance on Saturday. There’s no need to try and discredit it- it’s okay to be proud when the program does something well.
Toe
All-American
*checks calendar*
OK, sorry, had to double check that it is, in fact, 2021. Here's the complete list of teams Buffalo has beat, which incidentally is identical to their coach's list of career wins as HC:
- Wagner
Impressive resume, and I'm sure your "numerous advanced analytic measures" reflect that! Not real sure what those NFL draftees have to do with anything, though - are they on Buffalo's team this year? Or the head coach that produced them?
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Archy1221
Heisman Trophy Winner
While I agree with you, the problem is this throw is one of AM’s weakest throws he makes. He has a hell of a time hitting the RB in stride which is essential in making the play work so the RB has a chance to make a move on the defender or out run the angle.
seaofred92
All-American
This is yet another straw man post, but you’re digging your own grave so I’ll keep helping you dig deeper.
You’re the one who brought up last year’s schedule in the first place:
Buffalo finished 48 in SP+ in 2020. They finished 17th in F+.
I don’t think they’re world beaters this year. I think they’re a good football team. Not great, not outstanding, not any other crazy adjective you want to come up with- they’re going to go to a bowl game and be good in their league. They’re rated 86th in SP+ through two weeks of play in 2021- one spot below Illinois who’s 85th. Two weeks ago we got blasted against Illinois, on Saturday we held Buffalo to 3 points and had one of the best defensive performances we’ve had against a FBS team in years. I’m not sure why you seem uninterested in celebrating the results of that or the growth it represents.
It’s okay to be happy when the team does something well. Believe me, I’m sure there will be plenty of reasons to be upset this weekend. Until then- enjoy a win and try to crack a smile.
Toe
All-American
@seaofred92 Hey, you know what, you can just take your pick, bud - include previous years or don't. I really don't give a s#!t one way or the other because either way, you're still trying to hype up a win against Buffalo.
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That is not at all what he's doing, so this is either an argument about superlatives or an argument just for the sake of having an argument.
I think his point is well stated. Sure, Buffalo is not a "great" team, but for where Nebraska is at right now, it's a win worth noting. The first couple of weeks of this season have seen plenty of non power five teams upsetting power five teams, and some of those P5 that lost were teams I thought were going to be better than Nebraska heading into this season. Nebraska is by no means clear of having to worry about getting upset by a program like that.
I think your point is well stated, too, but you're making a caricature of what he's saying... even after he clarified it in a fairly moderate kind of way.
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