Can Callahan mix it up?

The "tradition" was starting to erode away when Frank fired his aging staff and he, in effect by a lack of recruiting, put diesel in the big red machine that runs on gasoline. But hey, it's cheaper!!! :)
Don't get me wrong, it was time for those guys to go.

Maybe there was no stipulation like "you must run option" as part of the hiring process for a new head coach... but there should be things that should be understood by the persons looking to be hired as well as the employers.
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Like what? It is the coaches job to decide how the team is to be run. Period. I don't care what team you are talking about. It isn't the administrations job. Believe it or not, that's the way it has always been here. It's just that you agreed with it until now.

Come on man, kids in the back alleys of the Phillipinnes know that Nebraska runs option-- heavy.  NU runs it and has had unprecedented success with it.  You don't just change things without reason.  Didn't Osborne make examples of WC and spread teams while he was there?
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The Phillipines? :blink:

Yes, NU has had success with it. I wouldn't call what Jamal Lord had success.

I don't know what spread offenses you are talking about...examples?

I am not saying the option doesn't work. The fact of the matter is it wasn't working as well as it did for Tom in the mid-90's because we didn't have the players. Thus Frank got fired and Callahan was hired. You can kick and scream all you want, but that's the facts.

Bottom line is:  Bill doesn't belong in Husker Nation, and the NU administration is heading in the wrong direction.
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Wow. Doesn't "belong" here? Well who does belong here? Do you have some kind of list? There might be some people I would like to add ;)

This is the bottom line: The option won't be played at NU in the near future. No matter how much people kick and scream. There is nothing in the universities by-laws that says "Yup, our football team must run the option or else!!" That idea is ridiculous.
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Maybe I didn't come across correctly the first time trying to explain myself about how I feel about the situation in Nebraska.

There are no pro sports teams in Nebraska. There is only 1 major university in Nebraska. From what I hear, its wall-to-wall football in Nebraska. Nebraska has enough resources to be self-contained and do its own thing in my opinion...mixing in a few outsiders here and there. I've read the NSAA forums and looked at a lot of prep teams and I feel to believe the players are there. From the stats I saw, I think the coaches are there too. NU could have kept the machine rolling after Osborne by hiring younger coaches within the state that fit the mold. NU enjoyed winning seasons every year damn near, until someone came and decided to change the ingredients of success. Did someone figure out how to stop the Husker's offense while I wasn't looking or something? Highly unlikely. Even if there were, say, a lack of players (whatever that means)-- the system would allow you to put your best athletes on defense and play field position. There is just no good reason I could see for changing the game. Some things just weren't meant to be tampered with, like mother nature...and Nebraska football.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again... Callahan does not belong in Nebraska. I seriously doubt that he is the answer to any problem. It seemed wonderful when NU hired him, being an ex-NFL coach and all, but I don't think his philosophy is compatible with what NU needs. Just being a pro coach doesn't make you a good one all the time. Nebraska needs to look no further than within itself to find a solution.

I'll say it since everyone else seems scared to....to hell with that WC, 3 and out, finesse crap. Give Callahan a pat on the back and a ticket back to Oakland somewhere, consider a few of the good football minds within the state for coaching positions, and take it from there. There has got to be a few hot prep coaches in Nebraska. I'll rather see Nebraska fail at doing its own thing (which I personally never saw), than to fail trying to keep up with the Jones'.

 
There are no pro sports teams in Nebraska. There is only 1 major university in Nebraska. From what I hear, its wall-to-wall football in Nebraska. Nebraska has enough resources to be self-contained and do its own thing in my opinion...mixing in a few outsiders here and there. I've read the NSAA forums and looked at a lot of prep teams and I feel to believe the players are there. From the stats I saw, I think the coaches are there too. NU could have kept the machine rolling after Osborne by hiring younger coaches within the state that fit the mold. NU enjoyed winning seasons every year damn near, until someone came and decided to change the ingredients of success. Did someone figure out how to stop the Husker's offense while I wasn't looking or something? Highly unlikely. Even if there were, say, a lack of players (whatever that means)-- the system would allow you to put your best athletes on defense and play field position. There is just no good reason I could see for changing the game. Some things just weren't meant to be tampered with, like mother nature...and Nebraska football.
I'll say it since everyone else seems scared to....to hell with that WC, 3 and out, finesse crap. Give Callahan a pat on the back and a ticket back to Oakland somewhere, consider a few of the good football minds within the state for coaching positions, and take it from there. There has got to be a few hot prep coaches in Nebraska. I'll rather see Nebraska fail at doing its own thing (which I personally never saw), than to fail trying to keep up with the Jones'.
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Couple things I'd like to point out.

First of all, the program was handed down to TO's right hand man, a guy that watched the success for years, and he had the 1st non-winning record in 30+ years, 7-7. Second, if you want a HS coach go to Texas where they put 30,000 people in the stands on Friday nights and pay their coaches more than some small college coaches. Third, if you can name 1 coach that went from HS FB to a Major College program and magically turned things around, I may consider your argument to be justified. I just don't think you'll find one. Until I'm proven wrong, I'll keep my opinion that this is the single dumbest argument I have ever heard on any message board, forum, drunk bar talk or TV/radio program ever.

 
Give Callahan a pat on the back and a ticket back to Oakland somewhere, consider a few of the good football minds within the state for coaching positions, and take it from there. There has got to be a few hot prep coaches in Nebraska.

Who are these HOT coaches from Nebraska? Your High School argument is pretty bad. Like I said before the Guy at Prep had the best HS team this year but SHOULDN'T be the coach of a D-1 team.

 
Until I'm proven wrong, I'll keep my opinion that this is the single dumbest argument I have ever heard on any message board, forum, drunk bar talk or TV/radio program ever.
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I can't say I exactly disagree with this statement, but c'mon you've got to read Benard's feeble attempts at arguments as well. :lol: Newearth, the only thing Jaworski wants to be in control of is a buffet plate.

 
Give Callahan a pat on the back and a ticket back to Oakland somewhere, consider a few of the good football minds within the state for coaching positions, and take it from there. There has got to be a few hot prep coaches in Nebraska.
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Who are these HOT coaches from Nebraska? Your High School argument is pretty bad. Like I said before the Guy at Prep had the best HS team this year but SHOULDN'T be the coach of a D-1 team.

If you had noticed, I wrote "..there HAS to be a few hot prep coaches". Meaning, I don't know if there is or is not. SO....how in the hell can I name one?

Furthermore, I don't know of any coaches that just popped on the scene of any college without coaching high school first. What I was getting at was keeping Nebraska's style of football intact by having coaches there that know what its about. 100+ years of experience fired and the program starts a downward spiral after seeing unprecedented success the 30 years before. Changing the ingredients of success is never good. TO laid the foundation, NU should build on that.

 
There are no pro sports teams in Nebraska.  There is only 1 major university in Nebraska.  From what I hear, its wall-to-wall football in Nebraska.  Nebraska has enough resources to be self-contained and do its own thing in my opinion...mixing in a few outsiders here and there.  I've read the NSAA forums and looked at a lot of prep teams and I feel to believe the players are there.  From the stats I saw, I think the coaches are there too.  NU could have kept the machine rolling after Osborne by hiring younger coaches within the state that fit the mold.  NU enjoyed winning seasons every year damn near, until someone came and decided to change the ingredients of success.  Did someone figure out how to stop the Husker's offense while I wasn't looking or something?  Highly unlikely.  Even if there were, say, a lack of players (whatever that means)-- the system would allow you to put your best athletes on defense and play field position.  There is just no good reason I could see for changing the game.  Some things just weren't meant to be tampered with, like mother nature...and Nebraska football.
I'll say it since everyone else seems scared to....to hell with that WC, 3 and out, finesse crap.  Give Callahan a pat on the back and a ticket back to Oakland somewhere, consider a few of the good football minds within the state for coaching positions, and take it from there.  There has got to be a few hot prep coaches in Nebraska.  I'll rather see Nebraska fail at doing its own thing (which I personally never saw), than to fail trying to keep up with the Jones'.
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Couple things I'd like to point out.

First of all, the program was handed down to TO's right hand man, a guy that watched the success for years, and he had the 1st non-winning record in 30+ years, 7-7. Second, if you want a HS coach go to Texas where they put 30,000 people in the stands on Friday nights and pay their coaches more than some small college coaches. Third, if you can name 1 coach that went from HS FB to a Major College program and magically turned things around, I may consider your argument to be justified. I just don't think you'll find one. Until I'm proven wrong, I'll keep my opinion that this is the single dumbest argument I have ever heard on any message board, forum, drunk bar talk or TV/radio program ever.
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Solich may have went 7-7, but he was never a loser. May have seemed like he had a hand in his back, but he was never a loser.

I've never heard of Texas being a hotbox for coaches.

Do you know of any pro coaches that came to the college level with their own staff and were successful? Do you know of any coaches that implemented the wco where option is normally run and were successful?

I have yet to see Nebraska fail playing Nebraska football. The losing started when the system broke down. Fix the system, get back to winning. I could give a damn about your opinion, it is what it is. These past few years, I don't know what the hell I've been looking at, but it hasn't been Husker football.

 
Give Callahan a pat on the back and a ticket back to Oakland somewhere, consider a few of the good football minds within the state for coaching positions, and take it from there. There has got to be a few hot prep coaches in Nebraska.
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Who are these HOT coaches from Nebraska? Your High School argument is pretty bad. Like I said before the Guy at Prep had the best HS team this year but SHOULDN'T be the coach of a D-1 team.
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If you had noticed, I wrote "..there HAS to be a few hot prep coaches". Meaning, I don't know if there is or is not. SO....how in the hell can I name one?

Furthermore, I don't know of any coaches that just popped on the scene of any college without coaching high school first. What I was getting at was keeping Nebraska's style of football intact by having coaches there that know what its about. 100+ years of experience fired and the program starts a downward spiral after seeing unprecedented success the 30 years before. Changing the ingredients of success is never good. TO laid the foundation, NU should build on that.

Pete Carroll, Urban Meyer, and Bob Stoops are a couple of coaches that never coached High School. I might be wrong but I don't think Dr. Tom coached High School. I believe most guys go straight to being GAs if they want to be a College Coach. I could be wrong though.

 
There are no pro sports teams in Nebraska.  There is only 1 major university in Nebraska.  From what I hear, its wall-to-wall football in Nebraska.  Nebraska has enough resources to be self-contained and do its own thing in my opinion...mixing in a few outsiders here and there.  I've read the NSAA forums and looked at a lot of prep teams and I feel to believe the players are there.  From the stats I saw, I think the coaches are there too.   NU could have kept the machine rolling after Osborne by hiring younger coaches within the state that fit the mold.  NU enjoyed winning seasons every year damn near, until someone came and decided to change the ingredients of success.  Did someone figure out how to stop the Husker's offense while I wasn't looking or something?  Highly unlikely.  Even if there were, say, a lack of players (whatever that means)-- the system would allow you to put your best athletes on defense and play field position.  There is just no good reason I could see for changing the game.   Some things just weren't meant to be tampered with, like mother nature...and Nebraska football.
I'll say it since everyone else seems scared to....to hell with that WC, 3 and out, finesse crap.   Give Callahan a pat on the back and a ticket back to Oakland somewhere, consider a few of the good football minds within the state for coaching positions, and take it from there.  There has got to be a few hot prep coaches in Nebraska.  I'll rather see Nebraska fail at doing its own thing (which I personally never saw), than to fail trying to keep up with the Jones'.
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Couple things I'd like to point out.

First of all, the program was handed down to TO's right hand man, a guy that watched the success for years, and he had the 1st non-winning record in 30+ years, 7-7. Second, if you want a HS coach go to Texas where they put 30,000 people in the stands on Friday nights and pay their coaches more than some small college coaches. Third, if you can name 1 coach that went from HS FB to a Major College program and magically turned things around, I may consider your argument to be justified. I just don't think you'll find one. Until I'm proven wrong, I'll keep my opinion that this is the single dumbest argument I have ever heard on any message board, forum, drunk bar talk or TV/radio program ever.
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Solich may have went 7-7, but he was never a loser. May have seemed like he had a hand in his back, but he was never a loser.

I've never heard of Texas being a hotbox for coaches.

Do you know of any pro coaches that came to the college level with their own staff and were successful? Do you know of any coaches that implemented the wco where option is normally run and were successful?

I have yet to see Nebraska fail playing Nebraska football. The losing started when the system broke down. Fix the system, get back to winning. I could give a damn about your opinion, it is what it is. These past few years, I don't know what the hell I've been looking at, but it hasn't been Husker football.
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Did Solich try and take a option team and turn it into the WCO? Solich went 7-7 in his own offense. That doesnt sound to good does it? A change had to be made so get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
Turk, I wasn't bashing you, just the argument of a HS coach taking a powerhouse college team over and having success. It's just not possible. Maybe Frank could have changed things with his new staff, but he wasn't bringing in the players NU was accustomed to, and that's why we were outplayed by more talented teams 3 straight years. I'm happy we're changing and I can't wait to be back on top like we once were.

 
There are no pro sports teams in Nebraska.  There is only 1 major university in Nebraska.  From what I hear, its wall-to-wall football in Nebraska.  Nebraska has enough resources to be self-contained and do its own thing in my opinion...mixing in a few outsiders here and there.  I've read the NSAA forums and looked at a lot of prep teams and I feel to believe the players are there.  From the stats I saw, I think the coaches are there too.   NU could have kept the machine rolling after Osborne by hiring younger coaches within the state that fit the mold.  NU enjoyed winning seasons every year damn near, until someone came and decided to change the ingredients of success.  Did someone figure out how to stop the Husker's offense while I wasn't looking or something?  Highly unlikely.  Even if there were, say, a lack of players (whatever that means)-- the system would allow you to put your best athletes on defense and play field position.  There is just no good reason I could see for changing the game.   Some things just weren't meant to be tampered with, like mother nature...and Nebraska football.
I'll say it since everyone else seems scared to....to hell with that WC, 3 and out, finesse crap.   Give Callahan a pat on the back and a ticket back to Oakland somewhere, consider a few of the good football minds within the state for coaching positions, and take it from there.  There has got to be a few hot prep coaches in Nebraska.  I'll rather see Nebraska fail at doing its own thing (which I personally never saw), than to fail trying to keep up with the Jones'.
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Couple things I'd like to point out.

First of all, the program was handed down to TO's right hand man, a guy that watched the success for years, and he had the 1st non-winning record in 30+ years, 7-7. Second, if you want a HS coach go to Texas where they put 30,000 people in the stands on Friday nights and pay their coaches more than some small college coaches. Third, if you can name 1 coach that went from HS FB to a Major College program and magically turned things around, I may consider your argument to be justified. I just don't think you'll find one. Until I'm proven wrong, I'll keep my opinion that this is the single dumbest argument I have ever heard on any message board, forum, drunk bar talk or TV/radio program ever.
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Solich may have went 7-7, but he was never a loser. May have seemed like he had a hand in his back, but he was never a loser.

I've never heard of Texas being a hotbox for coaches.

Do you know of any pro coaches that came to the college level with their own staff and were successful? Do you know of any coaches that implemented the wco where option is normally run and were successful?

I have yet to see Nebraska fail playing Nebraska football. The losing started when the system broke down. Fix the system, get back to winning. I could give a damn about your opinion, it is what it is. These past few years, I don't know what the hell I've been looking at, but it hasn't been Husker football.
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Did Solich try and take a option team and turn it into the WCO? Solich went 7-7 in his own offense. That doesnt sound to good does it? A change had to be made so get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Solich's problem was play selection. He didn't set things up correctly, didn't call good games. What's to get over? I like the option and rather it over the WCO... regardless if NU runs it or not. ....and 7-7 is not a losing record (Solich not a loser)

 
....and 7-7 is not a losing record (Solich not a loser)

It's not a winning record either. Solich = Good Assistant, Bad Head Coach.IMO

 
Turk, I wasn't bashing you, just the argument of a HS coach taking a powerhouse college team over and having success. It's just not possible. Maybe Frank could have changed things with his new staff, but he wasn't bringing in the players NU was accustomed to, and that's why we were outplayed by more talented teams 3 straight years. I'm happy we're changing and I can't wait to be back on top like we once were.
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I think people knew Solich wasn't that good of a coach, that and the firing of his legendary staff killed it for the great recruits. His playcalling had no flow. He didn't call good games in other words.

I hope just like you that the Huskers will catch on to the new scheme and get us back to the top. I know the option is finished for now... but it'll be back soon.

It's all good Hoyamann.... I aint mad atcha.... We all bleed red here :wasted

 
There are no pro sports teams in Nebraska.  There is only 1 major university in Nebraska.  From what I hear, its wall-to-wall football in Nebraska.  Nebraska has enough resources to be self-contained and do its own thing in my opinion...mixing in a few outsiders here and there.  I've read the NSAA forums and looked at a lot of prep teams and I feel to believe the players are there.  From the stats I saw, I think the coaches are there too.   NU could have kept the machine rolling after Osborne by hiring younger coaches within the state that fit the mold.  NU enjoyed winning seasons every year damn near, until someone came and decided to change the ingredients of success.  Did someone figure out how to stop the Husker's offense while I wasn't looking or something?  Highly unlikely.  Even if there were, say, a lack of players (whatever that means)-- the system would allow you to put your best athletes on defense and play field position.  There is just no good reason I could see for changing the game.   Some things just weren't meant to be tampered with, like mother nature...and Nebraska football.
I'll say it since everyone else seems scared to....to hell with that WC, 3 and out, finesse crap.   Give Callahan a pat on the back and a ticket back to Oakland somewhere, consider a few of the good football minds within the state for coaching positions, and take it from there.  There has got to be a few hot prep coaches in Nebraska.  I'll rather see Nebraska fail at doing its own thing (which I personally never saw), than to fail trying to keep up with the Jones'.
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Couple things I'd like to point out.

First of all, the program was handed down to TO's right hand man, a guy that watched the success for years, and he had the 1st non-winning record in 30+ years, 7-7. Second, if you want a HS coach go to Texas where they put 30,000 people in the stands on Friday nights and pay their coaches more than some small college coaches. Third, if you can name 1 coach that went from HS FB to a Major College program and magically turned things around, I may consider your argument to be justified. I just don't think you'll find one. Until I'm proven wrong, I'll keep my opinion that this is the single dumbest argument I have ever heard on any message board, forum, drunk bar talk or TV/radio program ever.
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Solich may have went 7-7, but he was never a loser. May have seemed like he had a hand in his back, but he was never a loser.

I've never heard of Texas being a hotbox for coaches.

Do you know of any pro coaches that came to the college level with their own staff and were successful? Do you know of any coaches that implemented the wco where option is normally run and were successful?

I have yet to see Nebraska fail playing Nebraska football. The losing started when the system broke down. Fix the system, get back to winning. I could give a damn about your opinion, it is what it is. These past few years, I don't know what the hell I've been looking at, but it hasn't been Husker football.
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Did Solich try and take a option team and turn it into the WCO? Solich went 7-7 in his own offense. That doesnt sound to good does it? A change had to be made so get over it!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Solich's problem was play selection. He didn't set things up correctly, didn't call good games. What's to get over? I like the option and rather it over the WCO... regardless if NU runs it or not. ....and 7-7 is not a losing record (Solich not a loser)
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How many times did he run the option to the short side on third and long

 
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