CB Trai Mosley Leaving the Team

Porter said:
TGHusker said:
dudeguyy said:
TGHusker said:
Tell me how the scholarship commitment/contract works: Can a coach pull a scholarship anytime if he thinks the kid doesn't fit his system or isn't playing up to par? I know the student has to request a release to transfer to another school but how does it work from the coach's side when he wants to get rid of a student and make room for others? With all of the talk of various players leaving potentially, what are the obligations of each party as a scholarship is essentially a contract to perform by both parties. Your insight is appreciated. I obviously was not so lucky to get a scholarship when I was in college and my son's full ride scholarship was academic - so I don't understand the athletic scholarship 'terms'. (which I was very glad for his academic scholarship as he was on track to received an athletic basketball scholarship- point guard - if not for the 2 darn ACL surgeries - funny thing or not so - 11 years later I end up wt an ACL surgery this year - ouch - must be a genetic thing).
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I could be wrong, but I believe that in football, the scholarships are of e one-year renewable variety. It gives the coaches and players a chance to sit down and evaluate things after a season to see if the desire to renew the scholly is mutual.

I do believe Delaney and the Big 10 have proposed full four year scholly agreements in the recent past as an alternative. It'd help mitigate the oversigning and more plentiful "cutting" of players from schollies in places like the SEC.

The idea didn't get much traction, though. The logistics of moving to a full four-year scholly system would make it nearly impossible to recover if you miss on important guys or have a high number of busts that you then have to carry for a full college career.
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Thanks Dude for the explanation. That helps my understanding of what is going on. It does force the players to work hard and earn each year and I see the logic against a 4 year scholly - get a couple of busts at a key position like QB or RB and you might end up write off the rest of your career as coach at that university.
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Actually Nebraska committed to 4 year scholly's under Bo 2 years ago. So this is pretty crappy if they asked him to leave. They are having a hard time trying to fill the current class of 23. I don't think they need to have that number rise to 28 by running folks off. Anytime a staff is looking at taking a half a dozen JC players you know they're coaching for a quick fix to save their jobs rather than build a program.
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The Big Ten voted last October to extend multi-year scholarships in all sports.

http://www.cbssports.com/collegefootball/writer/jon-solomon/24744157/big-ten-becomes-1st-major-conference-to-guarantee-scholarships

Then in January, the NCAA voted in a similar set of initiatives to require Power 5 schools to provide multi-year schollies. Of course the SEC and Big 12 voted against it.

http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/01/17/cost-of-attendance-multi-year-scholarships-approved/

Because of the guaranteed scholarship, schools will not be permitted to rid their roster of a player who they deem to be underachieving athletically. Academics or off-the-field issues, including but not limited to failed drug tests and arrests, would allow schools the opportunity to strip a player of his/her scholarship.
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I'm sure the SEC coaches will be able to couch their roster-trimming and over-signing under a new heading, like trumped-up rules violations. But at least the players have some legal standing against it now.

 
QMany said:
Warrior10 said:
QMany said:
TGHusker said:
I hope MR has some good recruits (esp JUCO) coming in to replace those leaving. We need help in the secondary and isn't this the 2nd one from the secondary to leave the team in the past week?
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Jonathon Rose was dismissed, but he was Senior. Mosley played some important minutes this year and still has 3 years of elibility.
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He didn't play important minutes.
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Didn't he play a good amount, and maybe even start a game(?), when we had some injuries and Daniel Davie got thrown under the bus?
EDIT: I may be hallucinating. I've 3 weeks without Husker football and it's wearing on me.
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No worries. Only time remember Trai was BYU when Rose was suspended, Jones was out from knee surgery and Davie got banged up on a play....he got beat. Even when were potentially short handed going into Purdue there was talk of burning Lee's RS...says a lot.
 
Porter said:
TGHusker said:
dudeguyy said:
TGHusker said:
Tell me how the scholarship commitment/contract works: Can a coach pull a scholarship anytime if he thinks the kid doesn't fit his system or isn't playing up to par? I know the student has to request a release to transfer to another school but how does it work from the coach's side when he wants to get rid of a student and make room for others? With all of the talk of various players leaving potentially, what are the obligations of each party as a scholarship is essentially a contract to perform by both parties. Your insight is appreciated. I obviously was not so lucky to get a scholarship when I was in college and my son's full ride scholarship was academic - so I don't understand the athletic scholarship 'terms'. (which I was very glad for his academic scholarship as he was on track to received an athletic basketball scholarship- point guard - if not for the 2 darn ACL surgeries - funny thing or not so - 11 years later I end up wt an ACL surgery this year - ouch - must be a genetic thing).
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I could be wrong, but I believe that in football, the scholarships are of e one-year renewable variety. It gives the coaches and players a chance to sit down and evaluate things after a season to see if the desire to renew the scholly is mutual.

I do believe Delaney and the Big 10 have proposed full four year scholly agreements in the recent past as an alternative. It'd help mitigate the oversigning and more plentiful "cutting" of players from schollies in places like the SEC.

The idea didn't get much traction, though. The logistics of moving to a full four-year scholly system would make it nearly impossible to recover if you miss on important guys or have a high number of busts that you then have to carry for a full college career.
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Thanks Dude for the explanation. That helps my understanding of what is going on. It does force the players to work hard and earn each year and I see the logic against a 4 year scholly - get a couple of busts at a key position like QB or RB and you might end up write off the rest of your career as coach at that university.
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Actually Nebraska committed to 4 year scholly's under Bo 2 years ago. So this is pretty crappy if they asked him to leave. They are having a hard time trying to fill the current class of 23. I don't think they need to have that number rise to 28 by running folks off. Anytime a staff is looking at taking a half a dozen JC players you know they're coaching for a quick fix to save their jobs rather than build a program.
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Why would you even think that he was asked to leave? Actually taking JC is a way to even out scholarships for the 4 year cycle or to fill a position group that has a bad ratio of under/upper classmen - But i'm sure that is not the case and and as you said Coach R is trying to save his job.

 
I am sure the coach can always kick a guy off the team, whether he retains a scholarship or not. He may get a 4 year educational 'ride' without even sitting on the bench - he can watch from the local bar I suppose. Other articles have stated that the scholarships recently are guaranteed 4 years. Now for players recruited prior to the rule, I suppose they can be cut without recourse.

 
For a guy who wants to play, he will really need to find another school because a scholarship does not guarantee anything but tuition, books and fees, etc. Playing time must be earned. If a player decides to quit the sport, I am not sure how that would work, as a matter of fairness to all. If he fails to present himself and remain academically qualified and in progress to the degree, presumably he loses the scholarship assistance.

 
ADS said:
Sad to see him go. But I think Avery Anderson and Eric Lee are probably going to pass him up.
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Apparently Trai thought that also. He either didn't have confidence in himself, the system, or the coaches. Any of those and it's best that he move on.

 
Yes, sorry, Porter, I had my facts wrong before. I didn't remember that the Big 10 actually moved to guaranteeing the four-year schollies. However, according to this article (http://espn.go.com/college-sports/story/_/id/11666316/big-ten-guarantees-four-year-scholarships-student-athletes), it seems there's some wiggle room to nullify the agreement if the kid is a knucklehead either out in the community, in the classroom, or within the team/athletic department.

I very much doubt you'd ever see a situation where a kid and a coach would square off and be at odds on a scholarship. If the kids a knucklehead, the coach has a legitimate reason to want him gone, and the kid probably wants gone. If they're a good kid but just don't pan out athletically, they would most likely either stick around as a backup or initiate the conversation about transferring so they can look to get playing time in a better situation. I don't think there has been too much of trimming the fat in regards to subpar players being forced out, at least at NU.

I could see Trai being the latter situation. If he's a bit farther down on the depth chart (especially if he is below the two CO redshirts) and a bit too small for what we desire in a corner, who would it shock to see him look to go play elsewhere? He seemed to have a heck of a lot of talent out of HS and I'm sure he could latch on elsewhere.

I always wanted him to become the next Fonzie here, though, FWIW.

 
Since we do not really know what we have for next year behind Kalu and Jones, it would be good to have as many options as possible. It would be great to keep Trai. Hope he is ALL
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