CFB Matrix Talent Rankings and Coach Effect

Hard to argue much here. Nebraska with talent that puts us right on the cusp of top-25. Michigan State and Penn State just a little higher. Wisconsin a little lower. We should be battling Wiscy for the west title in most years, and winning it at least half of the time, IMO.
We should be stomping the dog snot out of them year in and year out, make them our bitches.
might be asking a lot. Literally on the other end of the spectrum. Wisconsin is the only team we have a losing record against in the whole Big ten. Not to mention, the margins of victory.
It might be asking a lot but that doesn't change what I said. We should be stomping the dog snot out of them, put them in their place where they belong, under our heels, and keep them there.

 
Wisconsin is falling apart at the seams. Their HC is not a great one. The issues related to multiple coaching churns and a real (not just perceived) slump in recruiting will catch them.

 
It's amazing to me what Troy Calhoun can continue to do at Air Force with the restrictions he gets regarding size of his players. What a freaking great coach. Air Forces talent level is in the bottom 20 and he continually gets them to 9-10 wins.

I love watching the academies. Especially Air Force when they start conference play.
There are no size restriction at academies. That's a myth.

But it is impressive; and Navy has been even more impressive.
Really?

You know more about it than their own coaches? Sweet.
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http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/5/21/5736040/college-football-military-service-academies

 
It's amazing to me what Troy Calhoun can continue to do at Air Force with the restrictions he gets regarding size of his players. What a freaking great coach. Air Forces talent level is in the bottom 20 and he continually gets them to 9-10 wins.

I love watching the academies. Especially Air Force when they start conference play.
There are no size restriction at academies. That's a myth.
But it is impressive; and Navy has been even more impressive.
Really?
You know more about it than their own coaches? Sweet.
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http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/5/21/5736040/college-football-military-service-academies
If Calhoun is claiming that he can't get exemptions from height weight requirements, yes. But when you read that article, that's not what's said. The author makes a common error: he sees a height limit and assumes it can't be exempted.
As an athelete, you can go in outside of those requirements (look at a service academy bball roster). You just need to be in compliance with certain BMI requirements, which most top D1 athelete comply with.

I am a bit surprised at the claim by Calhoun that he's never had a lineman bigger than 255. I find that hard to believe because I follow army and navy pretty closely.

 
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And this statement is just plain stupid, so I have to think s lot of his interview was hyperbole:

"I bet out of our two-deep, we might only have two that are even from this time zone," Calhoun said. "Which, that is really absurd."

Note that the Navy coach referenced the weight of his players being in the 280s. There are guys from Navy who played at 300+.

 
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And Calhoun sucks compared to the last two navy coaches.

Maybe you're thinking of them, because Calhoun has had like 3 9-win seasons in 10 years.

 
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It's amazing to me what Troy Calhoun can continue to do at Air Force with the restrictions he gets regarding size of his players. What a freaking great coach. Air Forces talent level is in the bottom 20 and he continually gets them to 9-10 wins.

I love watching the academies. Especially Air Force when they start conference play.
There are no size restriction at academies. That's a myth.
But it is impressive; and Navy has been even more impressive.
Really?
You know more about it than their own coaches? Sweet.
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http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/5/21/5736040/college-football-military-service-academies
If Calhoun is claiming that he can't get exemptions from height weight requirements, yes. But when you read that article, that's not what's said. The author makes a common error: he sees a height limit and assumes it can't be exempted.
As an athelete, you can go in outside of those requirements (look at a service academy bball roster). You just need to be in compliance with certain BMI requirements, which most top D1 athelete comply with.

I am a bit surprised at the claim by Calhoun that he's never had a lineman bigger than 255. I find that hard to believe because I follow army and navy pretty closely.
When I was at West Point the players were exempt while they were still playing but after their Firstie (Sr) season they had to get down to a height weight standard. They would be working their tail off from JAN on to get down so they could graduate. The height restriction is for certain branches, not all.
 
It's amazing to me what Troy Calhoun can continue to do at Air Force with the restrictions he gets regarding size of his players. What a freaking great coach. Air Forces talent level is in the bottom 20 and he continually gets them to 9-10 wins.

I love watching the academies. Especially Air Force when they start conference play.
There are no size restriction at academies. That's a myth.
But it is impressive; and Navy has been even more impressive.
Really?
You know more about it than their own coaches? Sweet.
default_facepalm.gif


http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/5/21/5736040/college-football-military-service-academies
If Calhoun is claiming that he can't get exemptions from height weight requirements, yes. But when you read that article, that's not what's said. The author makes a common error: he sees a height limit and assumes it can't be exempted.
As an athelete, you can go in outside of those requirements (look at a service academy bball roster). You just need to be in compliance with certain BMI requirements, which most top D1 athelete comply with.

I am a bit surprised at the claim by Calhoun that he's never had a lineman bigger than 255. I find that hard to believe because I follow army and navy pretty closely.
When I was at West Point the players were exempt while they were still playing but after their Firstie (Sr) season they had to get down to a height weight standard. They would be working their tail off from JAN on to get down so they could graduate. The height restriction is for certain branches, not all.
True statements, except I don't think any academy prohibits tall bball recruits.
They just end up going restricted line.

 
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It's amazing to me what Troy Calhoun can continue to do at Air Force with the restrictions he gets regarding size of his players. What a freaking great coach. Air Forces talent level is in the bottom 20 and he continually gets them to 9-10 wins.

I love watching the academies. Especially Air Force when they start conference play.
There are no size restriction at academies. That's a myth.
But it is impressive; and Navy has been even more impressive.
Really?
You know more about it than their own coaches? Sweet.
default_facepalm.gif


http://www.sbnation.com/college-football/2014/5/21/5736040/college-football-military-service-academies
If Calhoun is claiming that he can't get exemptions from height weight requirements, yes. But when you read that article, that's not what's said. The author makes a common error: he sees a height limit and assumes it can't be exempted.
As an athelete, you can go in outside of those requirements (look at a service academy bball roster). You just need to be in compliance with certain BMI requirements, which most top D1 athelete comply with.

I am a bit surprised at the claim by Calhoun that he's never had a lineman bigger than 255. I find that hard to believe because I follow army and navy pretty closely.
When I was at West Point the players were exempt while they were still playing but after their Firstie (Sr) season they had to get down to a height weight standard. They would be working their tail off from JAN on to get down so they could graduate. The height restriction is for certain branches, not all.
True statements, except I don't think any academy prohibits tall bball recruits.
They just end up going restricted line.
pretty sure USMA only has a min height requirement not a max, other than restrictions by branch. Not sure for USNA or UAFA
 
Think you're right re: all three. Only min require. So not a lot of jockeys coming out of those schools ...

 
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Wisconsin falling apart at the seams? I'll believe that when I see it. Theres something in the water there in Madison. Were finding out, and if we arent yet, we're going to, that maybe Bielema isnt all that great of a coach afterall. But there's an established culture there in Madison that trickles all the way from the top. I dont see them going away anytime soon. Anderson wasnt even a comfy fit and they still rattled off wins.

 
Think you're right re: all three. Only min require. So not a lot of jockeys coming out of those schools ...
That is for sure, I was one of the shorter guys in my class at 5'6". Was great for being an Armor Officer though, the Abrams interior felt roomy to me.
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I like the "coach effect" ranking, but it does seem a little less than thorough or consistent. For Example, some of the coaches were listed separately for current school vs total, and some coaches were not. For example, Jim Grobe's time at Wake Forest was ignored.

I probably would have not included any of the 0-year or 1-year coaches' data either. Hard to draw conclusions based on that small of a sample size.

 
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