Cheating

knapplc said:
Regarding Lance Armstrong and the "level playing field" argument. Lance knew what he was doing was cheating, in the worst kind of way, and he did it anyway. He masterminded a cutting-edge doping scheme because it had to be cutting-edge to bypass what were quite stringent testing regimens. It simply is not an explanation to say that "they were all cheating, so he did too."

Armstrong cheated. The fact that everyone else cheated too doesn't make it any better.
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It doesn't make it any better. Armstrong knew what he was doing, concocted an elaborate scheme, and then ruthlessly attacked anybody who tried to out him. He deserved what happened to him and the public vilification.

The best point to be made here, however, is he is not an anomaly. Handfuls of players were doping and Armstrong is no different in that sense. He wanted to win, so he cheated against cheaters. Fine, whatever, imho. He wasn't the first and certainly won't be the last. The cheaters are always ahead of anti-cheaters, just like hackers are always one step ahead of anti-viruses.

 
QMany said:
T_O_Bull said:
No reason to think Ray Lewis is anything other than a great player at the mercy of a businessman who has used the timming of the situation to promote his products.

T_O_B
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... and an accomplice to murder/murderer.
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Acquited. Nuff said.

T_O_B

 
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Enhance89 said:
accountability brings up a good point. In the case of Lance Armstrong, other top cyclists he raced against have failed or been accused of doping. Armstrong knew that if he wanted to win, he'd have to cheat, and so he did. That's why I don't really blame him for the actual act of cheating. What I think he has to answer for is the years of lying and ruthless attacks against those who claimed he doped.

And as far as Ray Lewis is concerned, the allegations against him say he knew he was taking the banned substance IGF-1, and I read an ESPN article today that said the NFL currently does not have a specific test for IGF-1.

At this point, where there's smoke, there's fire. Every major doping case I can think of has turned out to be true. There's very little to be gained from people alleging doping against premier athletes, other than to get the truth out there.
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Cowherd said it best. Adrian Peterson is better today than before surgery. Kobe Bryant is better today than 2 years ago. Ray Lewis, better now after major injury and surgery than this time last year. They dont get that done by doing pullups and workouts. To deny that "things" are being done is just irresponsible. It's an innovative and global world. The sanctioning bodies of athletics will probably never be able to keep up with "enhancement".
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One thing I've noticed about Colin Cowherd is that he rarely divulges info about anything he or his staff haven't researched. If the story has legs, he isn't shy to comment. If someone in the medical community, who understands recovery, told his staff AD's recovery was otherworldly then it probably was.

 
I dont think Cowherd was trying to insinuate that AD and Kobe have taken anything illegal as far as PED's go. He was more or less referring to peoples shock of Ray Lewis being involved in this swats thing when he's better now after a torn tricep and surgery than he was a year ago. It shouldnt be shocking, it should be obvoius that all these guys are taking something, but not necessarily illegal-yet. Adrian Peterson is proabably the most obvious case. His injury coulve been career-ending for many. Instead, he's able to be to full strength and nearly set the NFL single season rushing record and literally carry his whole team to the playoffs, with a 6 month window of recovery. To look at AD's recovery as otherworldly would just be common sense and that thing does not happen by just "getting to the gym".

 
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