I guess we should also question how his parents raised him, like some did the Gabberts?
Or call him a spoiled brat and a sore loser, as many have called Martinez.
My response to both of these posts: I missed the part where he ever acted wishy washy, spoiled, or immature. That is what separates these other two situations with the Green situation. He has always been a team player, mature, works hard, and has made informed decisions.
People thought Martinez was wishy washy, spoiled, and immature because of the
rumors about him transferring. Cody Green is actually transferring. I don't think either player is spoiled or immature, just trying to point out the pretty blatant hypocrisy in the fan base's reaction.
It's not even the same. Cody has had two years worth of being a last-case scenario and has done it with a smile. He's been quoted repeatedly saying that he doesn't care what his role is, just so long as he helps the team. How many shots of him have you seen of him helping signal plays in with a headset with just as much zeal as if he were the starter? (See also Zac Lee and Kody Spano.)
Cody leaving is not an immature, "I'm taking my ball and going home" reaction, it's a sobering recognition that he wants to play and will almost certainly not have that opportunity here. As much as people think this speaks volumes about Carnes, it's more likely that it speaks to RK III, who may have passed Green on the depth chart to get the #3 spot.
Meanwhile, when he is sidelined for whatever reason, Martinez acts disinterested and seems totally aloof. There's been enough smoke to suspect there is at least something smoldering there with regard to his less-than-stellar attitude.
In sum, there is no doubt Cody loves the Huskers, and his transfer is clearly about looking for his best opportunity so that he can play someday. Martinez's apparent transfer threat was more about him not getting his way.
Edit: Let's put it this way:
There is a decent chance Martinez would transfer the SECOND he was bumped down to #2.
CG is transferring now that he is #3 or #4, with no hope of ever being the starter. Big, big difference folks.
haha, the only difference between the two situations is that Cody is actually transferring, and Martinez isn't. You can try to spin it any other way you want, but you're just going to be talking out of your a$$.
Rumors about Martinez transferring = what a jerk, what a spoiled brat, selfish, not a team player.
Cody Green actually transferring = Wish him well, what a nice guy, always a great team player.
He's been quoted repeatedly saying that he doesn't care what his role is, just so long as he helps the team.
I don't care that he's been quoted saying that, or that he smiles all nice-like when he's on the sideline or in front of the press. That stuff just makes him a better politician than Martinez. At the end of the day, it's not true - he's not helping our QB depth, he's not moving to TE or WR, he's not acting as a leader/coach on the sidelines - he's leaving. You can't help the team from another campus.
Again, I understand Cody's decision, sympathize with him, and wish him well. But the entire reaction to this situation has pretty much validated my view that people are backing one QB over another because of personal biases and very little more.
For the record, I don't really place a lot of my distrust of Martinez on the transfer rumors. I put it on the fact that he generally acts like an aloof jacka$$ who thinks he's the sh#t, but is mediocre at best the second he joins the other 99% of athletes who, by season's end, have some degree of injury to their knee/ankle/shoulder/foot.
There is little doubt that the kid has an attitude problem and you can make that case to a thousand jurors without ever introducing any evidence of the transfer rumors. There is a prima donna element to his attitude without a doubt.
The fact is that Cody has taken the high road during the past two seasons of being put on the back burner. He took it in stride in 2009 and again in 2010, starting just 4 games in two seasons. When it was clear that was going to be the #3 or #4 in 2011, he realized that he had better opportunities elsewhere if he wanted to play, which he has every right to do.
I have virtually no doubt that Martinez would spend exactly one week at #2 on the depth chart behind a QB the coaches thought was superior before he would call it quits and pack up. I mean, for crying out loud, the Martinez camp was bitching and moaning about him being pulled in the Texas game.
There is basically a zero percent chance that Martinez would stay at Nebraska for the remainder of his career as a #2 QB behind, say, Brion Carnes or Bubba Starling. Cody's done that or worse for the past two years, without even coming close to being a disgruntled cancer in the locker room, which is more than Martinez can say while he was the STARTER. That makes the situation a bit different in this man's opinion.
Martinez is to Tate Forcier, what Green is to Joe Dailey.
im sorry dude but its pretty clear that you only know about martinez what the media has told you and that is 99% false. actually go meet him or talk to some of his teammates about him and you will know that martinez is none of the above state crap. he gets a bad rep because people that dont even know him push crap like this on message boards.
Maybe.
But the question I ask is why the "media" would feel inclined to manufacture something that isn't there? It's not like Shatel and the boys are chillin' at a secret meeting with coffee in styrofoam cups and cigarettes aplenty and discuss how they are all going to portray Martinez as a loner with an ego, when in reality he is a saint. It just doesn't add up. Perhaps the media is exaggerating things, but there is definitely something there that got the ball rolling.
I guess the bottom line for many of us is that we see Cody Green as a team player sort of kid who hung in as long as he could until he had to start thinking for himself before his college career was completely gone. Many of us also get the sense that Martinez has a bit of a "me first" streak in him, which is great when he's helping us win games, but not so helpful if things ever turn out so that he is not our #1 option.
I, personally, have no hard feelings for Cody and wish him the best. I am sure he is as disappointed as can be. I have no hate in my heart for Martinez either. I just hope that for his sake and for our sakes, he has been able to develop--or, for those who believe he already had it,
express--a team-first attitude.
Edit: Just read Zoogies last post. I agree with just about all of it. I personally did not hold any resentment for Taylor when the initial transfer rumors came out. However, those initial rumors--a move that was seemingly understandable at the time--turned sour when the second bout of transfer rumors floated around, combined with a little bit of what I've seen of his attitude.
Now, if Martinez is ever passed by [iNSERT QB HERE] and drops to #2 on the depth chart and appears that he will be staying there, I will understand if he transfers. I'll hope that he finds whatever he's looking for down the road, but it won't be a, "Thanks for the memories" type of send off like I think Cody deserves. It will more be like a mutual parting of ways, similar to how I felt when Watson left. A bit of a "good riddance" type of deal, but maybe a little less harsh.
Cody Green in my book gets an Honorable Discharge from the Huskers; Martinez, if he left in a huff because he thought he should be the best man, would get a Discharge.
And perhaps that's it: Implicit in Green's actions has been the recognition not only that he isn't #1 on the coaches' depth chart, but that perhaps he shouldn't be. I get the sense that in Martinez's mind, he should always be #1 here and will accept nothing less.
