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Manhattan

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I am writing an article and I want to cite the NCAA's policy where it says that if a conference has 12 members, then it must be split into at least 2 divisions, as people have commonly said is an NCAA policy.

I can't find this statute anywhere in the NCAA Division I manual. Nowhere. The only place I can find information is Wikipedia, which says "may split" and implies it is optional, and the source for that note is some random guy's blog, so that isn't even accurate or a credible source.

So I'm starting to think that this rule doesn't exist, but everyone insists that it does. Does anyone know where I can find the source of this idea?

 
Personally, I haven't heard of the division split but have heard if a conference has 12 teams, it must have a CCG. Maybe someone smarter will know.

 
If it isn't in the bylaws, then I'd rather play everyone in the conference and do away with the championship game. This does away with the screwy 3 way ties that occurred in the Big 12 South a couple of years ago. I understand in a 16 team mega-conference that you can't do this. However, it seems very doable in a 12 team conference. The only problem is that every strong team would try to schedule the patsies within the conference as the first games of the season.

 
I don't think that it is a law that you MUST divide into 2 divisions and have a CCG, but the only way that you CAN do that is if you have 12 teams. I could be wrong.

 
74Hunter said:
I don't think that it is a law that you MUST divide into 2 divisions and have a CCG, but the only way that you CAN do that is if you have 12 teams. I could be wrong.
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If I'm reading your post right, then there's no reason a 10 team conference shouldn't have a CCG.

 
junior4949 said:
If it isn't in the bylaws, then I'd rather play everyone in the conference and do away with the championship game. This does away with the screwy 3 way ties that occurred in the Big 12 South a couple of years ago. I understand in a 16 team mega-conference that you can't do this. However, it seems very doable in a 12 team conference. The only problem is that every strong team would try to schedule the patsies within the conference as the first games of the season.
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Three way ties will always be possible when everyone plays everyone else. It doesn't matter how many teams there are. Heck, it's even possible that the entire conference could be tied for first (assuming an even number of conference games are played).

 
74Hunter said:
HuskerfaninOkieland said:
74Hunter said:
I don't think that it is a law that you MUST divide into 2 divisions and have a CCG, but the only way that you CAN do that is if you have 12 teams. I could be wrong.
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If I'm reading your post right, then there's no reason a 10 team conference shouldn't have a CCG.
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Only if they vote NOT to have one. I don't think that it is mandatory.
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I agree. On a similar note, during the brief glimpse into the Bylaws and Constitution, I couldn't find anything that requires conferences to have a CCG if they have 12 teams either.

 
So, you folks understand my frustration... :madash

If only bleacherreport had half of the journalistic responsibility that I do. How come nobody has ever brought this up?

EDIT: Weird, double post that only posted half... :blink:

 
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As I understand it the rule was that in order to have CCG you had to have 12 teams and having only 11 teams on down your not allowed.

There is no rule saying that you had to have the CCG, since it's up to the conference. Tom Osborne was against the CCG when the Big 12 formed, so it must have been a voteable subject. Though I would bet that any conference, that had 12 teams and didn't have a CCG, there would be some schools screaming bickering (reminds u of the Big 12)about who really won the conference most years.

 
Manhattan said:
I am writing an article and I want to cite the NCAA's policy where it says that if a conference has 12 members, then it must be split into at least 2 divisions, as people have commonly said is an NCAA policy.

I can't find this statute anywhere in the NCAA Division I manual. Nowhere. The only place I can find information is Wikipedia, which says "may split" and implies it is optional, and the source for that note is some random guy's blog, so that isn't even accurate or a credible source.

So I'm starting to think that this rule doesn't exist, but everyone insists that it does. Does anyone know where I can find the source of this idea?
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Some of the guys on BuckeyePlanet are really knowledgeable about this stuff. I'm sure they'd help if you asked.

 
74Hunter said:
I don't think that it is a law that you MUST divide into 2 divisions and have a CCG, but the only way that you CAN do that is if you have 12 teams. I could be wrong.
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I believe you're right, 12 is the number you have to have if you want a CCG but it is not required just becuase you have 12 teams

 
The only thing I've heard is that you have to have 12 teams to have a CCG but I never heard that if you have 12 teams you must split into divisions and have a CCG.

 
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