Could Zac have scored a rushing a TD?

HuskerfaninOkieland

HuskerfaninOkieland

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This is probably..ok..it is..trivial in the grand scheme of things (we won) but I didn't catch this in the game. Early in the 1st Qtr we're I think on the 10 yard line. Zac drops back, can't find an open receiver so he scrambles to pick up a few yards. Gets tackled on the 2. When he's tackled the defender is under him. Zac's knee's and elbows never touched the ground UNTIL he rolled off the defender to get up. I caught it when I was watching huskeraddicts video on Youtube but since the quality on Youtube isn't that great, I downloaded the video from the link he provided. Watched it in full screen, paused it right when he gets tackled and you could see it clear as day. The rest of the A&M defenders were just standing around like the play was over. The following play Glenn scores his 1st TD.

I know in the NFL, if you're on top of a defender you're not considered down unless your elbow or knee touches the ground. Is that the same in College or are you down when you're tackled?

 
I'm pretty sure he could kept going as long as he had momentum going forward. But, if the play is called dead and whistles are blown, then it's over regardless of whether he did or didn't touch the ground.

 
I've been searching online for any official rule that states it but can only find that "The ball is dead when any part of the ball carrier's body touches the ground other than his foot or hand, by contact or otherwise." It doesn't state if he rolls over another player. However if he was laying on top of someone and his advancement was stopped then it is a dead ball.

I would THINK that if it was a case where he was tackled and rolled over, still advancing the ball and nothing other than his feet or hand (without the ball) hit the ground it is still live. 99-100 times though their calling it dead as advancement has stopped....especially if a QB is carrying the ball as they always try and protect him.

 
cmb23 said:
I've been searching online for any official rule that states it but can only find that "The ball is dead when any part of the ball carrier's body touches the ground other than his foot or hand, by contact or otherwise." It doesn't state if he rolls over another player. However if he was laying on top of someone and his advancement was stopped then it is a dead ball.

I would THINK that if it was a case where he was tackled and rolled over, still advancing the ball and nothing other than his feet or hand (without the ball) hit the ground it is still live. 99-100 times though their calling it dead as advancement has stopped....especially if a QB is carrying the ball as they always try and protect him.
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Absolutely correct.

 
cmb23 said:
I've been searching online for any official rule that states it but can only find that "The ball is dead when any part of the ball carrier's body touches the ground other than his foot or hand, by contact or otherwise." It doesn't state if he rolls over another player. However if he was laying on top of someone and his advancement was stopped then it is a dead ball.

I would THINK that if it was a case where he was tackled and rolled over, still advancing the ball and nothing other than his feet or hand (without the ball) hit the ground it is still live. 99-100 times though their calling it dead as advancement has stopped....especially if a QB is carrying the ball as they always try and protect him.
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Right, if forward progression is stopped, and the player is tied up, then the officials will call the play dead to protect the player. You don't want Zac held up by a defensive tackle then blindsided by a linebacker. He would have to be carried off the field.

 
Here another question...

Could Zac Taylor have scored a rushing TD against USC if Cody Glenn had not been the decoy?? If another back was in instead would he have scored? Or did USC bite on the runningback cause Glenn was in?

 
huskeraddict said:
I create videos for entertainment not controversy! :)
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And you do a damn fine job too :woo

would THINK that if it was a case where he was tackled and rolled over, still advancing the ball and nothing other than his feet or hand (without the ball) hit the ground it is still live. 99-100 times though their calling it dead as advancement has stopped....especially if a QB is carrying the ball as they always try and protect him.
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I figured that's what happened. I think Zac did the right thing in just protecting the ball and himself and not trying to be a hero.

 
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There is no reason to be a hero when you have the likes of Glenn, B-Jax, and Lucky in your back pocket on the next play to have them punch it in. Good observation though.

 
HuskerfaninOkieland said:
This is probably..ok..it is..trivial in the grand scheme of things (we won) but I didn't catch this in the game. Early in the 1st Qtr we're I think on the 10 yard line. Zac drops back, can't find an open receiver so he scrambles to pick up a few yards. Gets tackled on the 2. When he's tackled the defender is under him. Zac's knee's and elbows never touched the ground UNTIL he rolled off the defender to get up. I caught it when I was watching huskeraddicts video on Youtube but since the quality on Youtube isn't that great, I downloaded the video from the link he provided. Watched it in full screen, paused it right when he gets tackled and you could see it clear as day. The rest of the A&M defenders were just standing around like the play was over. The following play Glenn scores his 1st TD.

I know in the NFL, if you're on top of a defender you're not considered down unless your elbow or knee touches the ground. Is that the same in College or are you down when you're tackled?
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I said the same thing watching it live. I think the end of the game made me forget about it.

 
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Zac Taylor and rushing touchdown just don't seem to go well together. Everytime he runs with the ball I get really nervous. The most nerve-racking is when he does a half of a spin exposing himself to linebackers coming up to tackle. I wish he would just throw the ball away instead of trying for the 2 or 3 yards.

 
BornNBredRed said:
Zac Taylor and rushing touchdown just don't seem to go well together. Everytime he runs with the ball I get really nervous. The most nerve-racking is when he does a half of a spin exposing himself to linebackers coming up to tackle. I wish he would just throw the ball away instead of trying for the 2 or 3 yards.
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You and me both!

 
If anyone remembers the Fiesta Bowl in 2002 with Oregon and sCUm, an Oregon player rolled over a sCUm player, and then took it to the house, but if the refs are quick to blow the whistle, then it doesn't matter because you can't review it.

 
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