Cyclown Fanatic.....fools

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billdozer15 said:
Manhattan said:
This is the best quote of the thread:

UTAH WWhile Utah fields a decent squad, they still play in the MWC.
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They are so unbelievably delusional that it is funny.
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What a great argument....that is so ISU of them. Just state something like it is fact and not back it up with any sort of informed opinion or fact. LOL. It amazes me how little they actually know about the game of football.
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don't you know? teams in the MWC automatically start out with a -21 point differential?

also, they beat NU one year, and all of a sudden it is a win or a toss-up where it favors them.

they will be lucky to go 6-6 and probably will go 3-9. have they ever had two "good" seasons in a row?

i know that thread represents a small percentage of ISU fans, but talk about arrogance. at least when we are arrogant, the perceived greatness to the team is in much closer proportion. i used to like ISU, but it is becoming harder. i am not bitter that we lost to them last year, i am bitter that they think they out played us.

more NU vitriol. they really hate us. never knew that, i guess i really never thought about ISU other than the days we play them, and that one time they had that one good player, what was it again? it was so long ago and they have only had one good player in their entire history? you would think it would be easy to remember just one player over they 100 year history? who was it again... right, Seneca Wallace, their one and only decent player to their one and only decent season that still ended up being 7-7.
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To be fair, Troy Davis was the one other player.

I don't know why but your use of the word Arrogant stuck out to me.

Arrogance is usually at least stemmed from something. Our arrogance (and yes we have plenty) comes from National Championships, sell-outs, etc, etc, etc. Not uncommon in sports fans of teams with significant histories.

But what the heck to they have to be arrogant about?!

Just the title of the post "Cyclone fanatic" elicits pity from me that there are actually people who are fanatical about such a sorry a$$ program. a small part of me actually admires them for even existing.

Let them have their win as charity (which is a perfect word for it). let them cherish it as they did the 1992 win. god knows they have little else to rally around as Cyclone fans.

But maybe that's just my Husker arrogance and superiority talking.

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Between the Iowa and ISUcks fans around here I want to pull my hair out sometimes. I hope we roll them bad in Ames this season to shut them up. They have no reason to be cocky, but for some reason always are. :wacko:

 
Hey guys, "Cyclown" here.

Allow me to make a couple of comments. First of all, 9-3 is certainly a best case scenario. Let me make this perfectly clear: nobody is EXPECTING a 9-3 record out of the Cyclones unless they really have no idea what they're talking about. As some of the posters on this board have pointed out, even within the thread full of posters "drinking Kool-aid," many are thinking something closer to 5-7, 6-6 (I personally see 5 solid wins and a win I attribute to "The Paul Rhoads Factor"). Please excuse that within our fanbase, there are some people who think that anything remotely possible is a strong likelihood. I'm sure such fans don't exist in the Husker fanbase.

On the other hand, I feel as though some of the comments being made in this thread are unfair. Nobody claims that Iowa State has one of the most prestigious football programs in the country. Sure, we've had some exciting wins against some strong programs in the past and a few fantastic players, but that's about it. That said, Paul Rhoads is the most exciting thing to happen to the program. He's not afraid to step up to a challenging schedule (see the difference in the comments on the future Big 12 schedule between Bill Snyder and Paul Rhoads), he's doing a great job getting recruits excited to play for the Cyclones, and the best part is that this IS his dream job. Say what you will about how lucky the Cyclones were to beat you last year, say what you will about our lack of a history, but to deny that Paul Rhoads has the program on the rise is ignorant at best. Certainly we won't be a 10-3 team next year (as much as I would love for that to happen), but I firmly believe that over the next 4-6 years, you will see the Cyclones move farther and farther away from what they used to be in the football world towards a team that people outside the Big 12 start recognizing as a solid team instead of the train wreck of the Gene Chizik "era."

That said, I do feel that the numbers led the Huskers to be underrated last year. I mean, going 10-4, losing 3 of those games by a combined 4 points is nothing to be scoffed at. I was just as shocked as you were that you guys lost to the Cyclones (although my shock was more joyous...), and I was just as angry that Suh wasn't chosen for the Heisman. I don't particularly like the Huskers due to my personal experiences growing up in Omaha, but I do respect the history of your program and the squad that Bo Pelini has put together.

Thanks,

Sloup

 
Sloup, I certainly understand how you're explaining the "Paul Rhoads factor". The thing is, many people can't take the ISU hype as seriously as you can be because your close losses were to Kansas State and Kansas, while Nebraska's were to #10 Virginia Tech and #2 Texas. And of course you had the win over Nebraska. But when people say they can beat Nebraska next year based on last year's game...I'm sure a logical fan like yourself realizes that is nothing more than blind homerism.

No doubt what CPR did last year was great. And I too would be excited if he were my team's coach. But making that proverbial leap is no easy task for a team like ISU. Just being matter of fact, it is simply easier for a team like Arkansas, aTm, or UCLA to get out of a hole because of tradition and clout than teams like ISU.

 
GMoose said:
Sloup, I certainly understand how you're explaining the "Paul Rhoads factor". The thing is, many people can't take the ISU hype as seriously as you can be because your close losses were to Kansas State and Kansas, while Nebraska's were to #10 Virginia Tech and #2 Texas. And of course you had the win over Nebraska. But when people say they can beat Nebraska next year based on last year's game...I'm sure a logical fan like yourself realizes that is nothing more than blind homerism.

No doubt what CPR did last year was great. And I too would be excited if he were my team's coach. But making that proverbial leap is no easy task for a team like ISU. Just being matter of fact, it is simply easier for a team like Arkansas, aTm, or UCLA to get out of a hole because of tradition and clout than teams like ISU.
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kinda like the jump oklahoma made...joke to dominator

 
I think the OP saw the Cyclone thread when it was at 4 or 5 posts, before sanity hit, and many resulting posts here were in response to that.

And the Cyclone OP did NOT say best case scenario.

 
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dubsker said:
husker B-rent said:
dubsker said:
Fan thinks his team will win. Shocking.

NU for the 2007 MNC!
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we had reason to believe it. they dont.
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No what we had was 5-7.
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no matter what the record was for 2007 we had reason to believe that we would be good before the season. believe it or not 2006 was a pretty decent season having won the big12 north and finished with 9 wins. As well as the fact that 2007 would have been callahans first full cycle of recruits. so really we should have had the players needed to run the system we were running and we had a lot more momentum than the first bowl game in 10 years.

like it or not, we had reason to be very optimistic, they really dont.

sorry but beating a team by 2 points in a game that had a ridiculous 8 EIGHT turnovers and then thinking you are going to do the same thing next season is kinda ridiculous.

 
husker B-rent said:
sorry but beating a team by 2 points in a game that had a ridiculous 8 EIGHT turnovers and then thinking you are going to do the same thing next season is kinda ridiculous.
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The hope is that with our starting quarterback and starting running back healthy (hopefully), we'll be able to make a bigger splash with our offense than when our backup quarterback was seeing his first career start in Memorial Stadium, of all places.

 
Cyclone Sloup said:
husker B-rent said:
sorry but beating a team by 2 points in a game that had a ridiculous 8 EIGHT turnovers and then thinking you are going to do the same thing next season is kinda ridiculous.
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The hope is that with our starting quarterback and starting running back healthy (hopefully), we'll be able to make a bigger splash with our offense than when our backup quarterback was seeing his first career start in Memorial Stadium, of all places.
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bro i live with cyclone fans and work with one of the mods from cyclone fanatic, so i know why fans are optimistic but predicting 9-3 with wins over NU and some even saying Texas and OU is ridiculous.

and yes you do have a chance in the game vs. NU, but most of the cyclone fanatic fans seem to think it is a forgone conclusion that they will win which again is fine but at least provide a compelling argument for why said fans think they will win!!

 
husker B-rent said:
bro i live with cyclone fans and work with one of the mods from cyclone fanatic, so i know why fans are optimistic but predicting 9-3 with wins over NU and some even saying Texas and OU is ridiculous.

and yes you do have a chance in the game vs. NU, but most of the cyclone fanatic fans seem to think it is a forgone conclusion that they will win which again is fine but at least provide a compelling argument for why said fans think they will win!!
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Having our two best offensive playmakers, where we didn't last year, isn't a compelling argument? I mean, that's not guaranteed by any means, but it has to mean something. Combine that with the fact that you guys are returning your entire offense from last year and losing Suh who, since he was often double-teamed, HAD to help inflate some of the other defensive players' stats, and I think there's something that at least loosely resembles a compelling argument.

I know you're going to tell me that your offense and defense will improve, and I believe it, but there's still a justifiable doubt that it won't necessarily play out that way.

Again, 9-3 is more of a best case scenario, and anybody expecting that is likely up for a long season. And that 9-3 is counting Oklahoma, Texas, and Iowa as losses. Would we love to upset them? Absolutely. But there's a difference between hoping for something and expecting something.

 
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