Dailey/Taylor

[formerfan]

Also throwing 18 more passes then Joe is also not even close. 18 passes in the old days would have constituted our total passes in 1 game alone.
1997

NU vs Akron: 13 passes

NU vs C. Florida: 15 passes

NU vs Washington: 15 passes

NU vs KSU: 14 Passes.

Etc..you get the picture

So basically, ZT in the old days would have 1 more game up on Joe Dailey, but he doesn't because we have only played 5 games.

Advantage: ZT

Do you really think that its fair to use stats from 9 years ago, from a tean on which neither kid played for comparison??

Oh come on former, don't be like that. I am just using the same tactic you use when you compare this team to the infamous 2003 team or even teams of the 90. Why are you allowed to use those kinda comparisons and I'm not? No seriously former, you really don't have any room to talk on this particular point, because if you want to continue to bring up past teams, then it's fair game to use past stats like that. Right???? I am sure you will not disagree

I should have clarified myself, comparing stats from 9 years ago itself isnt a bad thing, but to say that because one player has 18 more attempts than the other, and that 9 years ago, 18 attempts would be more than the average for 1 game, so ZT has played in 1 more game at this point is non-sensical. If you want to go that far, then average the amount of pass attempts from 1923 (4??? per game) and ZT has played in 4 1/2 more games :wacko:

Dude, its been 5 games, make the comparison, its that easy :thumbs

Besides, if you want to compare Taylor to Gerry Gdowski (for example), be my guest. But if youre gonna compare, compare them head to head, and dont put them in some factious scenario as if they were both playing in 1970 :blink:

That told me all i needed to know about Joe Dailey and whether he could take a hit or not. We all know Joe D is no Jammal Lord or Eric Crouch, and 1 hit could have literally knocked him out of playing for a full season, but his fear took over and he threw an interception or threw the ball that caused a grounding, or ran out of bounds. He threw interceptions not because he was only a bad QB, but also because he was scared to get hit when he saw Defensive linemen coming

I never have quite understood why people keep saying that "option qb's are one hit from being out for the season." Arent ALL qbs one hit from injury :wacko: Last I checked, the NFL runs option about 0.00001% of the time, yet NFL qbs get hurt alot. I would have to assume that being blindsided in the pocket by a 300 lb DT going full speed could put the hurt on you as much as being cracked by an OLB on the edge.

BTW, Joe wasnt a "bad qb" he was put in a bad predicament. <_<

 

[NamelessHusker]

I should have clarified myself, comparing stats from 9 years ago itself isnt a bad thing, but to say that because one player has 18 more attempts than the other, and that 9 years ago, 18 attempts would be more than the average for 1 game, so ZT has played in 1 more game at this point is non-sensical. If you want to go that far, then average the amount of pass attempts from 1923 (4??? per game) and ZT has played in 4 1/2 more games

Alright, if you want to play that card then, well that's fine. 18 more passes is not close then. 18 more passes can change a whole ballgame. So yet again, ZT outdoes Joe D. I think i have proved that these stats are not even close if you put them under the microscope (which is the logical thing to do if you really want comparisons).

Does ZT have similiar stats to JOE D without actually dissecting it properly? Abosolutely.

Does Joe D ACTUALLY have similiar stats to Zac Taylor if you break it down? Hell NO

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

BTW, Joe wasnt a "bad qb" he was put in a bad predicament. <_<

He wasn't a "good" QB either.

 

[BigWillie]

Their is one play that I honestly believe would haunt Joe Dailey for the rest of his Nebraska days.

That final drive/play against Southern Miss.

4th and goal inside the 10, Dailey drops back to pass, everyone is covered, he tucks and run to the right -- right out of bounds. I can remember NEVER being as totally speechless, but yet so angered IN MY LIFE. The final offensive play of the game, for the game, and you run out of bounds? I still do not understand why the papers didn't give Dailey flack for this for weeks to come.

Could you imagine the difference in effort if Zac Taylor would've ran that play and it broke down? Now granted Taylor more than likely would not have gotten in, but I gurantee he would've lowered his shoulder and fought for every inch.

That's the difference.

But I don't think the lack of effort ended with Joe Dailey last year. I think it went MUCH deeper. The Solich loyalists didn't just effect every Husker message board possible, you can now tell how much it effected our locker room last year as well.

It would be easy to sell those players out, who played half-heartedly last year, but at some of those same positions we are less talented this year, but playing with more fire and passion than at ANY point last year. Even moreso than the Mizzou game.

 

[Pedro Guerrero]

I also remember an Int he had vs. W. Ill were instead of stepping out of bounds he just threw teh ball over his shoulder.

If I remember correctly Dailey himself said he ran a WCO in high school. I could be wrong though. We will see how good he is at a different style of offense next year. My guess is he won't start or play that much. Kind of like Dukes.(at QB)

 

[Roy CO HSKR]

Out Of Position:

QBs who were terrific athletes who were out of postion: Bobby Newcombe (really a wing back, Jammal Lord (really a running back), Kordell Stewart (really a TE/RB), Joe Dailey (really a wing back/safety). None of the above were successful, because thay mentally weren't suited for the position. Stewat's and Dailey's eye were wide open when a linbacker blitzed. Lord only could run the keeper, because his passing and option skills were poor.

Crouch will never become a WCO or spread offense QB in pros, but he was suited to the Solich style offense and he had the character to deal with pressure, whereas the others simply could not.

Zac has the grit and character, as well as, the intelligence for the leadership needs of the position. This is not about basic IQ, but rather a fit of personality. Joe Montana was not a scrambler, but he simply could lead and get the job done.

Dailey will forever throw too many unacceptable interceptions, in my opinion, but he is a good enough athlete to be utilized at a different postion as we finally did with Newcombe.